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Typical compressor discharge port size??

Coloshaver

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Thanks for your feedback on where to put a filter/regulator.

Another question: What is the typical size of the discharge port on an 80 gal compressor? 3/4", 1/2" or ??

I am looking at a Bendpak 5 hp 80 Gallon and can't tell from the manual or the pictures. If the output is 1/2" pipe, I'm not sure what I would gain with 3/4" main lines.

Thanks again.
 
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My 80 gallon unit is 3/8". Kind of suprised me when I started plumbing the building. Everything else is 1/2". All my air tools work fine.

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I don't think anything is "typical". You get whatever the manufacturer decides on. My 5hp 60 gallon compressor has a 3/4" outlet. The good news is that all the fittings I needed to adapt to my smaller lines are easily available at the hardware store here.
 

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For a single user in a common garage it won't make any difference, neither will 3/4 pipe, most air hoses are 3/8, a 1/2 pipe is about 4 times the volume. Wouldn't lose anything worth worrying about till 100 ft and use of large tools, 3/4 impacts or more.
 
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My Champion 80 gallon vertical has a 1/2" discharge port. If you are running 25' or less of pipe, you can get away with 1/2" pipe, otherwise use 3/4".

It would seem that with a 1/2" discharge, as soon as you used up the air stored in the 3/4" pipe, you would get only the flow through the 1/2" discharge. Will the difference between 1/2" pipe and 3/4" pipe be even measurable? Isn't that how cheap flow regulators work - Limit the flow through an orifice?

Just wondering.
 
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My newest compressor came with a reducing bushing of 1/2". I wanted 3/4 like my old one, and to match my new line. So I just removed the old one...was quite a chore to get it out. But took it to a plumbing warehouse and bought a 2" to 3/4" bushing for about $3...problem solved. :thumbup:
 

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I was shocked and disappointed to discover that the stock discharge port on my IR T-30 compressor, theoretically capable of 16CFM, was a 1/2" NPT port.
I tried as hard as my tools would allow to remove the threaded "bung" from the pressure tank, so that I could replace it with something that had a 3/4" NPT port, but was unable to unscrew the fitting.
I ended up using a 1/2"x3/4" pipe fitting between my compressor tank and the 3/4" piping system in my shop. I am not satisfied that this is an optimum configuration.
 

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I tried as hard as my tools would allow to remove the threaded "bung" from the pressure tank, so that I could replace it with something that had a 3/4" NPT port, but was unable to unscrew the fitting.

I think I ended up buying a socket that fit it, then using a breaker bar and a cheater bar. That was after trying to budge it with an Impact. Took a bit...but I finally got it off. :rocker:
 

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That little restriction thru a short 1/2 isn't going to amount to anything, even at 16 cfm or larger, only an issue for 1 inch or larger impact guns. Second, depending on where the regulator is,,, if its before it means even less. there is a bit of advantage with 3/4 line, less friction which does add up over distance, mainly an issue with lower pressures and hi volumes, again in small shop moot, I know a couple got a reg then 50 ft of 3/8 hose, all they ever use, if there are multiple users could just come from reg with a t and another hose.

If this was a 24/7 process and the numbers were significantly higher than these found in home shops then there might be some concerns but at these levels nothing,,, like the difference between 120V and 121 V when you run the toaster a couple times during the day or make a pot of coffee, so minor that the operator can never distinguish the difference and efficiency is negligible especially with a process as inherently in efficient as compressed air tool usage.
While 16 cfm may seem like a lot a 3/8 hose on a large rotary air tool, even a DA sander on a car will run the comp down if ran continuously, its back to where the issue is volume vs losses down the hose, put bigger hose on allows it to empty even faster.
All these concepts are valuable for the general mechanic to understand, lots of the part timers and hobby types I see are excellent craftsman, some better than the average trades guys or "professional" installers but they tend to worry about severe overkill and minor loss issues especially in low duty cycle situations. again this would be a consideration with volumes double this, near 30 cfm on modest length runs and still determined mostly by final hose/whip size and fittings to some extent.
 

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It would seem that with a 1/2" discharge, as soon as you used up the air stored in the 3/4" pipe, you would get only the flow through the 1/2" discharge. Will the difference between 1/2" pipe and 3/4" pipe be even measurable? Isn't that how cheap flow regulators work - Limit the flow through an orifice?

Just wondering.

Yes, but last time I checked 1/2" was good for something like 40cfm at less than 3% pressure drop.

So unless you are using a LOT of air, 1/2" is fine.
 

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And length of line would be a factor, just a couple or few feet woulod be even less. Thats why they come with that port in them, the mfg knows what most service demands are.
 

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Thats why they come with that port in them, the mfg knows what most service demands are.

No offense...but I don't buy the manufacturer knows best. I previously had a big box 60 gal, with a 3/4" only had 10 cfm. Now my newer beefier IR which puts out more, came with only a 1/2". They just buy tanks and what's on there is on there. They probably spec at least 1\2". I have seen at least one new 60 gal model that had a 3/8" output.

Bottom line...put on what you want and make it what you want. I just wanted Zero restrictions or as close to it as I could get. It only cost me a little time and $4. So to me the peace of mind is worth it. But who knows what I might do with the unit in the future, or who I might sell it too.
 

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No one is trying to discourage you from getting what you want, thats the point but we try to leave a real picture, not everyone needs to lose sleep over port size, might give a guy a great warm feeling to fool with it but in the end its pretty much irrelevent at this level,,, but if it makes you feel better about yourself go for it.
 

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Mine is 3/4" on my Husky 60 gallon 11cfm, with a 3/8" pipe reducer.

Looking at the available data out there, I have far more pressure drop through the 50' 3/8" hoses I use than the 5-6 inches of 3/8" pipe that ties into the tank and regulator before tying into my distribution piping consisting of 3/4 and 1/2 inch pipe. Even then, then entire system loss is less than 2 psi. All my tools seem to work just fine.
 
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