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U tube radient placement

Dragster Racer

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Bear with me. I used the Grizzly workshop planner to layout a few major things in my shop to show what I am asking about. The two circles in the middle of nowhere are the ceiling fans. The square box rotated a bit is my present heater, and where my present vent is. The middle show the lift (need to make sure I won't cook a car, lol), and the left shows the loft. The right top is a shelving unit that goes to the ceiling, and I use the right side less than the left for sure. The right side has a 12' tall door, and the left is a 8' high door. I need to keep those in mind since when they are open, I would be a little nervous if the radient came on right above them. The ceilings are 15'. I can't have it above the loft, and I would really like to use the current vent. I was thinking of using the same vent, and mounting the u tube in the rear of the shop, and maybe tilting the covers to get the heat more toward the center of the shop. I have heard some say that placement of these isn't that important, since the heat will radiate off of everything in the shop that is in the line of the radient. Any troubles you see? I keep hearing that there is some savings in fuel heating this way. I keep it at 45 normally, and 52 when I am working out there. The doors really aren't open all that much, except when I pull the plow truck in, so recovery isn't a huge deal. I think my current Reznor is 60,000 btu, and has no trouble.


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mark52621

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I think the most important thing is to mount it far enough away from your vehicles so they don't overheat. Unfortunately, in my shop, this means I'll be working under it. I'm told it will be a 5 degree hot spot under the heater.

All of this is just theory though, as mine will be coming this week. I'll let you know how it works for me.
 
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I am anxious to hear. What brand did you buy? I see FarmTek has a sale going on through the end of the month on SunStar's. Don't know if they are any good.
 
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Ben, I don't know if you have yours already, but I have a neighbor that sells & installs radiant tube heaters. He has them in his shop, and just put 2 in his new double 2-car garages. Let me know if you would like to visit with him.
 
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I have not committed on one yet, so I would be glad to speak with him. If you know the brand he carries, just pm me name number etc. I kind of thought I would install myself, but if the price is right.....
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My heater just got delivered. I'm anxious to get it fired up. If things go well, it should be running by the weekend, or early next week.



I bought a Detroit Radiant Re-Verber-Ray. It is a low intensity, two stage, with a pusher motor and is 20 feet long. My shop is 29 feet square with a 9 feet ceiling. A had to get a low intensity because I have a low ceiling. Two stage because it uses less fuel and again low ceilings. I would have preferred a puller instead of a pusher, but I don't think it matters much

One of the reasons I went with detroit radiant is because they have been in business for a long time, and that it is the preferred brand with my local propane supplier. That way if I ever need parts I should be able to get them locally, and the guys are familiar with it.

I looked at a lot of brands, and was surprised at how similar they are in price and features. Some brands start cheaper, but by the time you add hangers, chains, thermostat, and intake/exhaust the most end up about the same price. Of course that sale at farmtec looks pretty good.

From the looks of your shop, I would put a single tube down the center from one end to the other. If you can do that and avoid lights doors and such. With my heater pointed straight down it only needs 30 inches of clearance total side to side, and 50 inches below it for combustibles. It looks like that would fit between your lift and ceiling fan. My 20 foot heater needs 23 feet to install it. The tube is 20 feet long, 2 feet for the burner, and a minimum 1 foot exhaust before any cap or elbow. So for your 40 foot shop, a 30 foot tube, or a 25 foot if your big door gets in the way. Or you could get a longer tube and put a 90 degree in it to make it L shaped. Maybe start it between your little door and ceiling fan and end it where your current heater is.

Remember your intake and exhaust can only be about 20 feet long.

I'll end this long and rambling post with what I learned talking to people and reading, it may help you pick out a heater.

Shop layout heater placement: The higher you mount the heater, the better coverage it will have. My heater says it should have direct heat 15 feet away on either side of the heater. Beyond that 30 feet of coverage I've heard it gets colder, but not much colder.

Intake-exhaust: I think this is the most important thing. I ended up having to put my exhaust through the roof, but would have preferred going out the wall. If you do go out a wall, don't have the exhaust going into the wind. I guess a strong head wind can cause major problems for these heaters.

Tube layout
Straight tube: hotter at the burner, cooler at the end.
U tube: balanced heat all the way across. Plus intake and exhaust can go out the same wall. But you have to keep the intake and exhaust seperated.

Push or pull blower
Push: with this style blower is in front of the tube. hotter at the burner, cooler at the exhaust. It is supposed to be the most reliable since the motor only sees clean intake air.
Pull: The blower pulls air through the tube. This provides even heat in tube, but the blower may not last as long.

stages:
single stage: cheaper to buy than two stage
two stage: uses 10% less fuel than single stage


Keep us posted on what you decide.

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Great info. A Reverba Ray dealer is visiting me tonight and we will be reviewing. I understand that the tubes are more efficient period. If a two stage is even better, that is greater! That is my cabin fever escape in the winter. So more efficient is a good thing.
 
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