Above 1200 Sq/FT Uncle HoHo's Big Mountain Playstation

[zedXmick]

Great build!! I hear you about this winter....last year we had 3ft of snow cover in central WI,this year we have 5 inches of cover. ***** for winter "fun" time.

Can't wait to see the finshed UHHBMP!!!!

 

[NUTTSGT]

So I have been real busy at work-not getting anything done on my build. The good news is I was able to stash up some money to get going again. But in the mean time I will share some photos of what I've been working on.

By chance was this taken by drone ?

 

[ADSR]

I still think the mountain playstation has more concrete than that place

 

[hoho98925]

By chance was this taken by drone ?

Yes it was. My PE has one, and it's pretty bad-***!!

 

[sam 8]

Seeing what you do for a living explains the question I've been asking myself since I started reading this thread about 45 minutes ago.
"He has thought of every detail, how did he dream this up?"
I don't get in here very often anymore, but I can say that this is one of the most well planned and well executed projects I've seen on GJ. You've done something to be proud of here; it fits in perfectly with your home and absolutely maximizes the use of space you have to work with.
Well done. Very well done.

 

[Pluribus]

I cant wait to get moving forward with my build. Its been the worst year in my memory for snow. maybe a foot of snow all winter, Normally would be at least 4' on the ground now. ZERO snow on the ground for months!

No kidding, I'm supposed to be teaching up at the pass for a few weeks to cover for an injured friend. At this point, I wonder if it's going to happen at all this year!

As always, I look forward to the updates.

 

[hoho98925]

Ok- you guy's have motivated me to get off my *** and get some work done, that and the nice weather. So I rented some equipment, an excavator and skid steer. Got 2 loads of drain rock and a load of pea gravel delivered.

Dug some trenches and installed some plumbing for a bathroom.


I previously posted that I had done some trenching for drainage for gutter and footing drains. I hadn't got to finishing them till now, cleaned out the ditch lined it with filter fabric and placed 24 yds of clean drain rock in ditch. Laid 3 4" perforated drainpipes on top the rock, more filter fabric then buried with more rock than dirt.





It took awhile to get everything out of there. Had a boat, and all kinds of misc **** in the way.

All emptied out.

Commence grading.


Finish graded Ready for vapor barrier.






And a panoramic shot for fun.

 

[sean Buick 76]

Great progress!!! Very nice project!

 

[bonecrrusher]

Any updates to this?

 

[hoho98925]

Sorry folks its been too long since I have done anything with my build. This would be my first official project inside the shop. Replacing a motor in a boat, cracked a block over the winter. Engine was drained, with heat in the engine compartment but still toasted the block.


So I got the sub-grade all set up. Stego 16m vapor barrier and taped the seams.


Stego 16m vapor barrier and taped the seams.

Then 2" foam insulation.

Then I placed 1/2 " pex roughly 12" o.c. 9 loops at 200' max per loop.
Should keep it nice and comfortable all winter.

More to follow......

 

[slickgt1]

Wow. That garage is bigger than my house. Crazy. Keep them coming.

 

[Boosted1]

Looking good.
Just got to keep plugging away til it's finished

 

[sublime68charger]

Looks great love this place!!!

 

[Nermal43]

Just read all 15 pages and loved every minute. Great build and even better scenery. Thanks for sharing and subscribed.

 

[hoho98925]

Just read all 15 pages and loved every minute. Great build and even better scenery. Thanks for sharing and subscribed.

Thanks Nermal43, welcome to my build, I'm making a renewed effort to get stuff done and keep everyone updated.

 

[Skyline]

It looks like you've got the PEX secured right to the insulation. Is that temporary? Shouldn't the PEX be mid slab or above?

If you look about 3/4's of the way down this page: http://inspectapedia.com/heat/Radiant-Slab-Heat-Mistakes.php
you'll see a table of heating water temperatures needed with radiant tubing at different depths.

 

[hoho98925]

It looks like you've got the PEX secured right to the insulation. Is that temporary? Shouldn't the PEX be mid slab or above?

If you look about 3/4's of the way down this page: http://inspectapedia.com/heat/Radiant-Slab-Heat-Mistakes.php
you'll see a table of heating water temperatures needed with radiant tubing at different depths.

Hello Skyline, thanks for your comments. This is the same design that I used in my garage and house, the only difference is i had closer spacing around the perimeter of the house. This design works great. My slab is a 5" deep slab, effectively the top of the radiant tubing is 4" deep. Radiant heat is most effective when you heat up a mass and it radiates. The examples given of failure on the website talk about slabs that where up to 18" deep and not properly insulated. I have had zero issues with this setup. I don't expect to be heating the shop to 70 degrees, but rather keeping it a constant 55-60 degrees with a wood stove to warm it up further as I desire. Furthermore there will be welded wire mesh placed on top of the pex with some re-bar( at mid depth) where I plan on a two post lift install. I will also be saw-cutting this slab to control cracking and placing a sleeve around the tubing where the saw cut is planned to help alleviate any stress on the pex where the cutting/cracking will take place.

If you have ever poured a heated floor slab you soon find out the the pex tends to float if not securely fastened, so if i placed the pex at mid-depth, say 2.5" the top of the pex is only 2" deep, a saw-cut on a 5" slab should be 1-1/4" deep leaving only 3/4" of an inch between the blade and the pex. Plus any uplifting (floating) that would occur when placing the mud and the pex would definitely get cut!

The upper floors of my build will have gypecrete placed instead of concrete and they will be in the 1-1/2 to 2" depth and will be required to maintain heat at 70 degrees.

 

[Skyline]

Since you are going to have wire mesh at mid depth, I assume you will have some method of holding it at that depth during the pour, like those little plastic stands that clip to the mesh.

Since you've already laid out the pex, what do you think of the approach of pulling the pex up to the bottom of the suspended mesh and zip-tying it into that position for the pour? Wouldn't that create a more efficient heated floor, and at the same time assure that it would be safely below the mesh and any relief cuts? (It can not float up that way.)

 

[hoho98925]

Skyline- I appreciate your thoughts on trying to make the slab more efficient. I am content with this set up, it works well in my other applications. The welded wire mess will be placed just on top the pex then lifted up towards mid depth as the concrete is placed. No need for any chairs. There will be one guy with a hook bar and his only job will be to pull the mesh up to the right depth. I also plan on placing a stronger mix design likely 5000psi with added steel crimped micro fibers, a newer version of fiber mesh .

 

[hoho98925]

Got my WWF delivered today.

Deeper area with rebar for 2 post lift.

 

[vintagespeed1956]

very impressive build, what a nice looking place! subscribed.

do you have any plans for an overhead track hoist in the main bay? for lifting motors/boats/heavy stuff.

 

[hoho98925]

very impressive build, what a nice looking place! subscribed.

do you have any plans for an overhead track hoist in the main bay? for lifting motors/boats/heavy stuff.

Yes I am! i have some brackets that I salvaged from a job that will bolt to the sides of the glu-lams then i will weld some I beams to those. I plan on having one beam run the entire length of the shop, then another for lifting in/out of my mezzanine area.

 

[C_F]

I spotted this thread for the first time last week & finally finished it today. All I can think is WOW!! Very impressive cement work & I really like the whole design. It's coming along quite nicely, I only wish I could hit the fast forward button & drool over pics of the end result.
That's okay, I will try to be patient...

 

[hoho98925]

I spotted this thread for the first time last week & finally finished it today. All I can think is WOW!! Very impressive cement work & I really like the whole design. It's coming along quite nicely, I only wish I could hit the fast forward button & drool over pics of the end result.
That's okay, I will try to be patient...

Thanks for your comments!! They are very much appreciated. I am also trying to be patient. It seems like I always have money and no time or lots of time and no money. But I will get it done!

 

[empa1968]

awesome build

 

[hoho98925]

awesome build

Thanks

 

[tool-guy]

Just read the 16 pages, now I'm inspired and depressed all at the same time.

 

[Pluribus]

Spent part of a day kayaking in your back "yard" a few weeks ago. I'd never been out on the lakes before, so it was great to find out that the views were better than expected. Kayaked, swam, kayaked, swam...life in the PNW is good.

As always, looking forward to all the awesome updates!

 

[hoho98925]

Spent part of a day kayaking in your back "yard" a few weeks ago. I'd never been out on the lakes before, so it was great to find out that the views were better than expected. Kayaked, swam, kayaked, swam...life in the PNW is good.

As always, looking forward to all the awesome updates!

Glad you got to enjoy some time in my area. Looks like that photo was taken in
Little lake Kachess. One of my favorite spots!
This was my view Sunday, a perfect lake day!!

 

[hoho98925]

Moving ahead slowly. I got the Concrete, Finishers, Pump and Softsaw cutter scheduled for next Tuesday!! Currently getting ready for the big day. Installing a trench drain right in front of the garage door. Going with a Zurn brand traffic rated trench drain, going in nicely. I will be able to upgrade the grates to cast or brass latter.

 

[sublime68charger]

Thanks for your comments!! They are very much appreciated. I am also trying to be patient. It seems like I always have money and no time or lots of time and no money. But I will get it done!

I say, money, time, ambitation,
You need all 3 to make stuff happen at a reasonable rate.

I usually only have 1 or 2, hence my slow build time.

Great place you have!

 

[ez-duzit]

I like the drain.

 

[hoho98925]

Ok- so I finally got some more action going on my build.
I am going to straighten out the pex and add some more staples.
this is what i ended up with.


This is my temp manifold for testing, the plumber at work set me up with this, i used washing machine supply valves to fill/test.

You can see the hydrophilic water stop on the wall in this photo. It's all around the perimeter of the slab.

This is one of the thickened areas for the 2 post lift.
Trench drain completed.

 

[jbmatth]

Woo Hoo, getting close to pouring more concrete, I'm excited for you.
JB

 

[C_F]

Looking good!

With all the snow you usually get there, I'd be halfway tempted to continue the heated floor out onto the apron out front. Just cuz I don't like shoveling snow.

 

[hoho98925]

Well it was a huge day for my build Yesterday, and I missed most of it.

Here is some action shots.

 

[ez-duzit]

You would have just been in the way; these guys look like they know what they're doing. Good progress.

 

[vintagespeed1956]

it's gonna sound like a basketball court when you walk through there. nice!

 

[hoho98925]

And some More Pics
The blockouts are for the in floor lifts. The big one is for snowmobiles/quads, the smaller one is for motorcycles. And you can see the cans for the in floor lighting for under the 2 post lift.

The apron and trench drain.


Snapping lines for early entry softcut.


Cutting, this gets cut same day slab was poured.

Spacer so the crosscut doesn't spall.

 

[ASHMAN_AZ]

In floor lighting for the two-post lift << ADD TO WISH LIST