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Back in 2007-2008 I was doing commercial construction. A big job that I was running at the time was a $35m renovation at the nicest mall in the state. All the common areas got new lighting, paint, elevators, railings and imported tile flooring, just shy of 200,000 sq.ft. the job was at night as the mall was open during the day. Every morning it needed to look like we hadn't even been there except for the progress we made.

One of the cool benefits I got was total control of the mall at night. All stores in this particular mall are required to renovate their spaces every 5 years. It just so happened that there were a dozen stores getting remodeled during the duration of my project. The mall required them all to schedule access and deliveries for their store remodels with me. So, I ended up getting first pick of any store furniture, electrical, plumbing, anything that was getting removed. I scored tons of speakers, lights, toilets, furniture, cctv cameras, etc. The store remodel contractors where more than happy to let me pick what I wanted to in trade for easy access while my project was going.

I got these light fixtures out of a Banana Republic store.
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They are huge, about 6' across.
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These bookcases were Pottery barn display shelves. They are crazy heavy VG fir with glass inserts in the wood shelves.
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Anyways the reason for sharing this is my latest project used the last of my recycled treasures from the mall. I scored 5- 16' long x 39" wide x 3" thick solid oak butcher block countertops.
They are so heavy. They came out of the William Sonoma store. They were pretty rough, some random holes and inserts, tape all over them, and scratched pretty good, I gave a lot of them away, a couple neighbors have them as kitchen countertops.
This is what I am doing with the last one.
A little work bench for the vault. I used some 2.5" angle iron, predrilled, painted it black and anchored it to the wall, then screwed into the butcher block top. As you can see by the photo, my intent was just to use it all rough at it was kinda used and abused, so installed it, as soon as it was installed, I realized I would like it to match the richer look of the wine cellar fixtures.
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So, I went to town sanding it down. 60,80,100,150,220 grit to get it cleaned up.
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Much better!
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I also built some ammo storage cabinets and installed them under the bench. (In case I ever get any guns). I used some material left over from the ceiling paneling I will show later. The floor in front of the bench is just a rubber flooring product just laid loosely.
 

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What an awesome thread. Thanks for salvaging it, just came across it for the first time today and got through it in a couple of sittings.

I know you're a pro, but WOW, you have skills. Place is looking GREAT!
 

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Darn, I bet you smile everytime you look at some of your recycled treasures!
Looks way, way better in your house instead of a landfill. See that you were green before it became fashionable. Thanks for sharing, much appreciated.

I knew you where a project manager back in the older thread when you mentioned about running low on funds and having to go back to work on a paying job. But your professionalism is bringing it to a new level. When I was a younger man I was not above dumpster diving, but I see I'm a talking to a pro!

When they were building the Marriot in midtown Manhattan at quiting time I walked past a dumpster on the street loaded with ripped out 2" pink foam board. Spoke to my buddy who had a pickup truck. Needless to say we just finished loading up the truck just as security showed up. Of course they told us to get the hell out of there . . . we complied. And that insulation was enough to do the spacing between the rafters in the attic. Just can't stand to see anything go to waste. Just old school.
 

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Nice scores on the recycled material. I really like the way the counter top turned out and the shelving below it. Well done!

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What an awesome thread. Thanks for salvaging it, just came across it for the first time today and got through it in a couple of sittings.

I know you're a pro, but WOW, you have skills. Place is looking GREAT!
Thanks, Reborn! Thanks for following along. I am happy to have the thread put back together. Some of the photos are still missing but i have added a lot I didn't include in the original thread.
Darn, I bet you smile everytime you look at some of your recycled treasures!
Looks way, way better in your house instead of a landfill. See that you were green before it became fashionable. Thanks for sharing, much appreciated.

I knew you where a project manager back in the older thread when you mentioned about running low on funds and having to go back to work on a paying job. But your professionalism is bringing it to a new level. When I was a younger man I was not above dumpster diving, but I see I'm a talking to a pro!

When they were building the Marriot in midtown Manhattan at quiting time I walked past a dumpster on the street loaded with ripped out 2" pink foam board. Spoke to my buddy who had a pickup truck. Needless to say we just finished loading up the truck just as security showed up. Of course they told us to get the hell out of there . . . we complied. And that insulation was enough to do the spacing between the rafters in the attic. Just can't stand to see anything go to waste. Just old school.
Thanks Red. My motivation isn't about being green- it's saving my green $. Over my career I have seen tremendous amounts of waste. one example I relive often happened about 25 years ago. I was working on a tenant improvement on a large law office. It was a very large fancy office. We removed 150 solid oak doors. they were 4' wide and 9' tall. And I am not kidding they were solid oak. The demolition contractor took them up to the roof level and dropped them 3 floors down into a dumpster. These doors had to have cost $1000's of dollars each back then. I can't even imagine what they could be in today's dollars. I would have grabbed some of them but had no way at the time to store them anywhere. I see things daily that i have to talk myself out of saving. If i would have had a 100,000 sq.ft. warehouse it would be full of saved goods. And thanks, i do smile when i see some of these items.
Nice scores on the recycled material. I really like the way the counter top turned out and the shelving below it. Well done!

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Thanks Finallygotit! I am really liking how the vault is really coming together. My original thought was to just have it very basic and all concrete. Then I started looking around at all the materials I had laying around, and a light bulb lit up over my head.
 

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I cant stand that sort of waste either. Good to see you intercepting it and repurposing some.

I watched a crew once fill an entire 40 yard dumpster with wire mesh shelving from an old video store. The place was about 2500 square feet full of rows and rows of close spaced 8 foot tall shelving like grocery store.

I intercepted some, at least the majority went to metal recycling instead of just the dump, but that stuff isnt cheap!
 
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This is what I came up with for the ceiling of the vault. I have had this plywood left over from a job about 12 years ago. this was waste material from window seats that went in all of the apartments. this material wrapped the window seats top, bottom and sides. I brought about 60 of these sheets home. I think they are maple, but I don't exactly remember. it's nice stuff. The window seats where to be flush with the drywall and had no other trim around them. They really looked bad. Anyways these pieces are finished on 5 of the six sides, with one long side being a ripped unfinished side. This must have been custom plywood because the finished length of a lot of them varied some up to an inch. The widths also varied. I sorted through them and found enough of them that where close to the same length all though not perfect. I installed the 2x furring on 24" Centers. so, every 2 feet there will be a screw securing the panels 2" from each edge.
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I attached these with stainless steel bugle head screws and stainless finishing cup washers. IMG_5182.jpg

I spaced the panels 1/4 apart (carpenter pencil width) leaving a gap small enough that you don't notice the rough edge on the one side. unless you are up close and personal.
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Gap at the ceiling to wall, I was able to keep it fairly consistent. I didn't cut any panels to length. As I said earlier the widths also varied, by up to an inch. I had to rip two pieces, on each end. I wanted and needed full panel on the end as the plywood cantilevers about 6" past the furring to allow kind of a place for future accent lighting all the way around the room. So, the second panel from each in is a much narrower panel.

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I didn't have enough of the thin brick for the end wall, so I decided to use the same panels on it. I used scrap brick pieces and bricked the perimeter of the wall. and then applied the panels, using the same furring 3/4 pt 1x4 used earlier. I ran some electrical for future outlets and attached some Synthetic fiber carpet padding between the furring to help with the acoustics. The concrete wall on the left of this picture is the only area staying concrete,
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Close ups of the panel/wall reveal. you can see the slight inconsistencies in the panel lengths in this photoIMG_5183.jpg
Bottom of the panel wall.
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Stay tuned for more fun.(y)
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Curious, do you think you might need a dehumidifier for the vault?

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I have a small rechargeable one in there now. But I am definitely looking for something that will handle the space better. I don't want to have to empty it all the time. I have been looking for one with an internal pump, so I don't have to worry about emptying it. I do have a cove heater that I plan on installing, as well as an electric fireplace. I also have a plan for fresh air and exhaust.
 

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Interesting, sounds like this space will be quite the room. I hate the words "man cave". :headshake

I have this vision of a large leather chair parked in a corner.

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Lighting for the vault. The furred down vault ceiling is only 2" deep, so I thought I needed to install surface mount fixtures. I came across these on Amazon. They are 6" no can LED lights. They come with a junction box to wire them to, and its 1.5 inches thick so they fit perfectly above the wood panel ceiling. There is a switch on the junction box to choose between 5 different light settings from 2500 to 5000k.lights.JPG
They have a 5-year warranty and are IC rated.
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There are small spring clips that hold these in place. On arrival one of the lights had a broken spring clip. I sent a message to the seller and within a couple of day they sent out a new 3 pack of these. Their customer service was exceptional.
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I installed 10 of these on the lowest warmest) setting. The other 6 I installed at the brightest (coldest) setting. So far, I am a huge fan of these.
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For fun I ran a led light strip above the ceiling around the perimeter.
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You can change between dozens of colors. I don't like the way the light comes between the gaps in the paneling, so i will be fixing that.
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Looks like the wine cellar is already partially stocked!!
Great build - thanks for rebuilding the thread from scratch. Waiting to see what you do with it next!!
 
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Staining and assembling the wine racks for the vault room. Craigslist purchases from a couple different sellers.
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This stain/finish is great to work with, water based.
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I started out using a brush, that was BS. So moved onto my cheap Harbor Freight spray gun. Worked perfectly.

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Assembled and moving into place.
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All done.
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Spring is nearly here, another month probably of the white stuff, but it's been a fairly mild winter, The largest snow falls this year might have been 3' during one storm. It has been cold though. I have had one woodstove in downstairs shop. I installed 3 years ago. The first year it was installed it smoked horribly. It wouldn't draft. IMG_5124.jpg
So last winter I didn't use it at all. I used a Salamander heater to get keep the shop warm enough to work in.
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My power bill was obnoxious. So, this year I fired up the woodstove again, no smoke all winter? Nothing had changed, now it drafts immediately and keeps the shop nice and comfortable.
I also installed a smaller woodstove in the wood shop. It heats up quickly even though the woodshop isn't insulated yet.
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There is currently 16" of snow on the ground. Here is a photo of the back yard, last winter for comparison. Thats an 8' tall fence in the background.
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Did you cut any trees down that were close to the house that might have affected the draft??
I have a wood burner down in our basement that gets used very often. I had problems with it for the first time about five years ago.
We had just added on to our house and the builder did not put in a fresh air/cold air vent to replace the one they took out. Had a new vent line installed and it was back to normal.
 
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Did you cut any trees down that were close to the house that might have affected the draft??
I have a wood burner down in our basement that gets used very often. I had problems with it for the first time about five years ago.
We had just added on to our house and the builder did not put in a fresh air/cold air vent to replace the one they took out. Had a new vent line installed and it was back to normal.
68400BIRD, that's the weird thing nothing changed. No trees taken down. The chimney for that wood stove is 30' tall. It should draft easy. Anyway, it is working perfectly now.
 
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Hot like over 100 F? :)
I use same red paint (speakers in avatar) it takes days without extra stuff even in desert summer. Now I know the solution thanks!
I did some more painting this week. I painted some more of my overhead hoist track yesterday morning. 55 degrees in the shop. Rustoleum straight out of the can, painted with foam brush and roller. No additives. Tonight, it is Still wet, like touch it and you are that color wet. Today about mid-morning, I sprayed the hoist trolleys, same brand of paint, different color, used catalyst. It's completely dry to the touch 7 hours later. It's pretty safe to say I will always be using Catalyst going forward!IMG_5250.jpg
 
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Did you ever get that trolley track mounted? I think that was where you left off.
Jayman, Thanks for the motivation, because of your comment i got off my *** and finished the trolley system.
A little bit of welding, some grinding and some more paint. I started welding the **** joints but, in the end, I thought I would go a more flexible route.
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I ended up switching to these Unistrut brackets and through-bolting using 3/8" carriage bolts. This is a pretty stout connection.
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This is the track profile. Several pieces are stamped "Clevland Railway" I looked them up, all they do nowadays is train tracks and equipment.
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I installed 6x6 in the floor joists Spanning as many bays as possible. I used 5/8" all thread with nuts and washers through the 6x to support the track. At most of the supports I braced the track hanger alternating directions at each. Max span of the truck unsupported is just about 7'.

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A couple pieces of the track had some heavy rust. After I was done cleaning them there was some heavy pitting on the bottom of the track. I don't think it has affected the strength of this track.
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Overall, I am supper happy with this setup. The trolleys move very smoothly. I haven't tried yet, but I am positive they will move snowmobiles and engine blocks easily.
 

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Thanks, I have been working for the last couple of weeks on fixing the Photobucket garbage, so my thread is a little jumbled, but it's getting there.
Thank you for doing this. Just found your thread recently, it certainly is a very impressive build. You should be very proud of it!
 
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Here is some more fairly recent progress. Framed a 8 x12 deck with 2x12 PT. Decked it with IPE that I had in my container for the last 10 years,( left over from a project) Stairs framed with double 2x12 stringers, 4 per run. It is very stout. Then covered with the same IPE. Ipe will be fastened with 2.5" stainless screws then plugged. Should look very nice when cleaned up and oiled.
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This last fall, I was able to get some other items done on my list before the snow flew. Did some exterior acid staining, and sealing.
at the shop main door
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When I placed this concrete at the start of last winter I bullfloated out the slab, then covered with light plastic sheeting and bullfloated again, this gave it a neat textured finish, similar to a light stamping. I like the end product.
I used a product called Armor AR500 High gloss sealant for the glossy finish.71lNdyAFgsL._AC_SY240_.jpg
Its supposed to hold up well to the weather and offer UV protection.....we will see.
Used the same product for the final coat on the vault floor. I really like the gloss look. Warning it is very strong smelling!!



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Did you ever get that permitting issue worked out with your boiler?

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I haven't sorted that out. Its going to sit there until I close out my existing building permit projects.
Currently I have an 8'x 28' addition to the house. It will include a large closet for the misses and a nice sized sauna. I will be adding a roof to cover the existing deck off the upper rec room area. I have a change of use for the existing 2 levels of the shop changing to it accessory dwelling units, and the stair deck addition for the upper unit of the shop. Once those are done and checked off, I will hit that boiler head on.
 
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