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So here it is 4 years later, and I haven't posted anything. I stopped posting when Photobucket held my photos ransom and broke my Build thread. I had spent so much time and effort, and basically in an instant, PB deleted alot of the photos in my build. I was pretty devestated/fuckingpissed actually. I tried over the years to get my photos off photobucket, but the best I could do even after researching online, was to download a picture at a time. I now have all my photos in one place and will now be posting photos directly to the site. Sorry for not being around, but I am back. I will be in the process of fixing the deleted pictures and continuing where we left off. Thanks!
 

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Ya that PB debacle turned a ton of great info to ****. I know I lost an ungodly amount of great documentation that I'll never take the time to rebuild.

Glad to see you're back hoho and good luck rebuilding your thread.
 

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So here it is 4 years later, and I haven't posted anything. I stopped posting when Photobucket held my photos ransom and broke my Build thread. I had spent so much time and effort, and basically in an instant, PB deleted alot of the photos in my build. I was pretty devestated/fuckingpissed actually. I tried over the years to get my photos off photobucket, but the best I could do even after researching online, was to download a picture at a time. I now have all my photos in one place and will now be posting photos directly to the site. Sorry for not being around, but I am back. I will be in the process of fixing the deleted pictures and continuing where we left off. Thanks!
Welcome back!
 

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Just found this thread today. I was really looking forward to all of the pictures of the garage build and the scenery.
I really like the rustic look in the pictures that are still working.
 

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Glad you are back as well, I always thought this was an awesome project. I was wondering why you stopped posting, welcome back!

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Please bear with me, It's not easy to pick up where we left off, so some posts may not be in order of how this went. After framing and the roof. i was able to get some extra windows for the upstairs from one of my projects. These are very nice windows 3 fixed panes and a sliding vent window. Time to get them framed in and installed. I framed this wall with oversized headers, not knowing what size windows I would end up with.
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Cutting the window openings out.
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Also started siding,
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You can also see I have built some large corbels for the gable ends, built matching ones for on the house as well.
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Please bear with me, It's not easy to pick up where we left off, so some posts may not be in order of how this went. After framing and the roof. i was able to get some extra windows for the upstairs from one of my projects. These are very nice windows 3 fixed panes and a sliding vent window. Time to get them framed in and installed. I framed this wall with oversized headers, not knowing what size windows I would end up with.
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Cutting the window openings out.
IMG_0171 (2).jpg
Also started siding,
IMG_0172 (1).jpg

IMG_0183.JPG
You can also see I have built some large corbels for the gable ends, built matching ones for on the house as well.
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Corbels are sweet! Looks like doug fir, what type of wood did you use?
Will you be treating them before installing them?
And those windows are huge. Glad you got that lift to get'm in place.
 

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Thanks for taking the time and effort - same happened to me with PB - huge PIA. Took some time to get back up and running so I know what you are going through.

Glad to see you are back!
 
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Corbels are sweet! Looks like doug fir, what type of wood did you use?
Will you be treating them before installing them?
And those windows are huge. Glad you got that lift to get'm in place.
The corbels are doug fir. I stained them with 4 coats stain prior to installing. They are pretty protected under the eaves. Those windows are crazy heavy. I built a platform to hold the windows off the side of the lift. It was still a struggle getting them into place.
 
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Thanks for taking the time and effort - same happened to me with PB - huge PIA. Took some time to get back up and running so I know what you are going through.

Glad to see you are back!
Thanks, Nolift911! Going back through I am missing a lot of photos, but I have found other photos I haven't posted so hopefully that makes up for the missing ones. It really ***** that we are limited on how many edits we can do in 24 hrs., that's going to really stretch out the thread rebuild.
 
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As I am going through the traumatizing effort of rebuilding this thread, I have come across some other photos that reminded me of some other fun I had before I started this build. So, I am going to take you back to 2012. December, the week before Christmas. I am at work, and I get a call from my alarm monitoring company. the burglar alarm is going off. I call my buddy Kevin that is home, he heads over to my house. no one there, no footprints or tire tracks in the snow, but the alarm is still going off. He walks around the back of the house; A very large Doug Fir tree has fallen through my house. It is December and there is a good 4' of snow on the roof. I head home and, on the way, pick up a very large tarp.

(I am looking for the photos of the tree through the house but haven't located them yet if I find them, I will add them to this). I spend that evening shoveling snow off the roof to try and get some sense of any damage. The Tree has fallen across my hot tub roof, up the valley and through 7 of the vaulted trusses over the living room/portion of the master. Once the snow is removed from the valley, I cut the tree up and get it off the roof, (with the help of a crane) then cover the area with a tarp, up in the attic space I find 7 broken trusses, the top chords and some of the members are destroyed. The crazy thing is the tree went right through the roof, the top cords, even breaking some bottom ones but did not come through the ceiling of the house, which is tongue and groove cedar, If the 4 feet of snow wasn't there to absorb the impact the tree would have been clean through the house, iphone013.jpg

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In order to keep the roof from caving in, I temp scab some 2x material and plywood on the trusses. I remove the broken-up plywood and lay 2x12's over the broken area on top the roof and recover with a tarp. a few days later the insurance adjuster shows up with a structural engineer. We all agree that any permanent repair needs to be done in the spring/summer. Some shoring up of the roof will need to happen to hold the structure through the rest of the winter. This required installing 3 horizontal beams under the trusses in the living room one at the peak and the other two at 1/3 interval. The beams needed to be posted down to the foundation.IMG_0584 (4).JPG

The roof in this area is over framed by the back porch and the front porch. Red line is where the tree landed. The engineer said the overframed roof areas needed to be removed and the broken trusses replaced. then built back. Well there is a load of electrical, hvac, and a ton of other trades running through those trusses.
iphone021.jpg

I discussed this with the truss manufacture and went to another engineer who provided a fix without replacing the trusses. It involved installing a 2x12 from ridge to wall plate on both sides of the damaged trusses and through bolting them (sistering) together. If a truss was broken, we needed to do this repair to the broken and unbroken sides of the truss. This would be faster and about 200k cheaper.
So that next summer I brought a handful of my concrete carpenters over to get this done. iphone198.jpgiphone201.jpgiphone202.jpgiphone197.jpgiphone266.jpg
A grand in material, a couple more in labor, and the most expensive part..............iphone194.jpg
Repair done, Inspected by engineer, re roofed etc. I brought in a crane to remove the tree, the hot tub roof, it got smashed onto the hot tub cracking it, and the chimney the tree bounced off of it.
 
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Hoho that must have been some mess. And great idea to get a second opinion on how to repair the roof. Fortunately no one got hurt.
Completely understand how the last picture was the most expensive. Buying that every day for the crew adds up, but lubrication is critical to keep everything moving. ;)
 

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Thanks, Nolift911! Going back through I am missing a lot of photos, but I have found other photos I haven't posted so hopefully that makes up for the missing ones. It really ***** that we are limited on how many edits we can do in 24 hrs., that's going to really stretch out the thread rebuild.
Interesting didn't know there was a limit on the edits in a 24hr period. The 10 pic per post limit is definitely limiting.
 
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As I mentioned before, some of my posts will be out of order due to technical difficulties. About 3 years ago I had this done.driveway recoated.JPGIMG_0227.JPG
This is far and away the best money I have spent so far. The paving company only wanted to asphalt 2". I insisted on 4" due to the winters here. I spent about $7500,00 getting this paving done, what a total gamechanger. everything is cleaner, not snow blowing gravel all winter. I absolutely love it.
 

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Back to the issues with photo hosting sites.... Used Tiny-Pics as the photo site for my thread. Easy to use for the most part. Then, they went **** up. To their credit, they did offer for a limited time a way to download the pics they were hosting. Should have jumped all over that opportunity. Was a royal PIA to find my pics that added to story line. Still need to update in some places.
 
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As I am going through the traumatizing effort of rebuilding this thread, I have come across some other photos that reminded me of some other fun I had before I started this build. So, I am going to take you back to 2012. December, the week before Christmas. I am at work, and I get a call from my alarm monitoring company. the burglar alarm is going off. I call my buddy Kevin that is home, he heads over to my house. no one there, no footprints or tire tracks in the snow, but the alarm is still going off. He walks around the back of the house; A very large Doug Fir tree has fallen through my house. It is December and there is a good 4' of snow on the roof. I head home and, on the way, pick up a very large tarp.

(I am looking for the photos of the tree through the house but haven't located them yet if I find them, I will add them to this). I spend that evening shoveling snow off the roof to try and get some sense of any damage. The Tree has fallen across my hot tub roof, up the valley and through 7 of the vaulted trusses over the living room/portion of the master. Once the snow is removed from the valley, I cut the tree up and get it off the roof, (with the help of a crane) then cover the area with a tarp, up in the attic space I find 7 broken trusses, the top chords and some of the members are destroyed. The crazy thing is the tree went right through the roof, the top cords, even breaking some bottom ones but did not come through the ceiling of the house, which is tongue and groove cedar, If the 4 feet of snow wasn't there to absorb the impact the tree would have been clean through the house, iphone013.jpg

iphone009.jpg

In order to keep the roof from caving in, I temp scab some 2x material and plywood on the trusses. I remove the broken-up plywood and lay 2x12's over the broken area on top the roof and recover with a tarp. a few days later the insurance adjuster shows up with a structural engineer. We all agree that any permanent repair needs to be done in the spring/summer. Some shoring up of the roof will need to happen to hold the structure through the rest of the winter. This required installing 3 horizontal beams under the trusses in the living room one at the peak and the other two at 1/3 interval. The beams needed to be posted down to the foundation.IMG_0584 (4).JPG

The roof in this area is over framed by the back porch and the front porch. Red line is where the tree landed. The engineer said the overframed roof areas needed to be removed and the broken trusses replaced. then built back. Well there is a load of electrical, hvac, and a ton of other trades running through those trusses.
iphone021.jpg

I discussed this with the truss manufacture and went to another engineer who provided a fix without replacing the trusses. It involved installing a 2x12 from ridge to wall plate on both sides of the damaged trusses and through bolting them (sistering) together. If a truss was broken, we needed to do this repair to the broken and unbroken sides of the truss. This would be faster and about 200k cheaper.
So that next summer I brought a handful of my concrete carpenters over to get this done. iphone198.jpgiphone201.jpgiphone202.jpgiphone197.jpgiphone266.jpg
A grand in material, a couple more in labor, and the most expensive part..............iphone194.jpg
Repair done, Inspected by engineer, re roofed etc. I brought in a crane to remove the tree, the hot tub roof, it got smashed onto the hot tub cracking it, and the chimney the tree bounced off of it.
 
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Hoho that must have been some mess. And great idea to get a second opinion on how to repair the roof. Fortunately no one got hurt.
Completely understand how the last picture was the most expensive. Buying that every day for the crew adds up, but lubrication is critical to keep everything moving. ;)
It was an ugly mess for sure! Fortunately there was very little water damage.
Found some of the tree photos.gopro 001.JPG

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Thats a bummer a pine fell on your house. Few weeks ago we had some crazy wind in town. One of my buddies had a pine drop on his house. It was an old pine tree that was in his neighbors yard. Hit the tip of the house 2nd story glancing off and falling on their patio destroying it. The S bag neighbor wouldn't get the tree trimmed so the wind sorta did it for him. I was at work I offered to come over with my saw and help buck the tree up and clean the mess. They declined, the local fire dept had a mod come by and clean it up for free. The neighbor didnt have home owners insurance and wanted all the wood.... didnt even offer to help fix the house. oh well. Nice looking pad you got OP. I dig the log cabin look.
 
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Some siding pictures. IMG_0173.JPG

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I had the 8" TK channel cedar siding delivered to a jobsite I had. used the parking garage to pre stain it all, using Messmers UV Plus in natural cedar tone. Same with the T#G cedar soffit material. I used the same stain on the house when I built it. The house is due for an acid wash and re-stain It has darkened a lot. but it's been a good 16 years or better. I am hoping to get to that this summer. When I built the house, I purchased the siding pre-stained for $1.30 lf. This time around just the raw siding was $2 a lineal foot. One of my equipment rental venders "loaned" me the lift for a couple of weeks.
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Some siding pictures. IMG_0173.JPG

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I had the 8" TK channel cedar siding delivered to a jobsite I had. used the parking garage to pre stain it all, using Messmers UV Plus in natural cedar tone. Same with the T#G cedar soffit material. I used the same stain on the house when I built it. The house is due for an acid wash and re-stain It has darkened a lot. but it's been a good 16 years or better. I am hoping to get to that this summer. When I built the house, I purchased the siding pre-stained for $1.30 lf. This time around just the raw siding was $2 a lineal foot. One of my equipment rental venders "loaned" me the lift for a couple of weeks.
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Feel the pain with the cost of cedar, back here in the East pine, yes just pine is coming down to about $2per ft.
Helped a friend back in the 90's do his post & beam house with cedar. Looks outrageous! He did his on a diagonal, I like straight up & down like yours more. The corbels are looking even better in place.
 
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This is kinda fun, if you've seen the latest Top Gun Movie, here is a frame from that movie. They filmed some scenes above and around Lake Kachess. I am right at the end of the lake. The jets fly directly over house at least 5 times a week. My place is on the approach to the lake, they always come in from the East and are usually 200-300 ft above my place, they are screaming. That puts them about 50' off the lake when they get there. Its super cool when they fly over the house, it's even cooler when they fly over you at that altitude when you are in the boat. I fly flags when we are on the boat. There have been a couple times they have circled right back around and waved at us with the jet's wings when we have the flags out on the boat.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸top gunre.jpg
 

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VR1355 - The Million Dollar Ride.

I was passing through there in January 2021 and a fighter was low level over the lake next to I-90. I was looking down into the cockpit...

It was awesome.


This is kinda fun, if you've seen the latest Top Gun Movie, here is a frame from that movie. They filmed some scenes above and around Lake Kachess. I am right at the end of the lake. The jets fly directly over house at least 5 times a week. My place is on the approach to the lake, they always come in from the East and are usually 200-300 ft above my place, they are screaming. That puts them about 50' off the lake when they get there. Its super cool when they fly over the house, it's even cooler when they fly over you at that altitude when you are in the boat. I fly flags when we are on the boat. There have been a couple times they have circled right back around and waved at us with the jet's wings when we have the flags out on the boat.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸top gunre.jpg
 
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VR1355 - The Million Dollar Ride.

I was passing through there in January 2021 and a fighter was low level over the lake next to I-90. I was looking down into the cockpit...

It was awesome.
Vr1355- maybe 2 years ago, I was driving home and in the same area. There were 3 B-52's right over the same lake. maybe 100 ft above the freeway. It was surreal.
 
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