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volpster31

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If I'm not mistaken if someone sends you something you didn't request it's yours to keep. There are two ways to think about this, one, it's the stores fault and you didn't do anything wrong so it's not stealing. Two, you didn't order it or pay for it so the right thing to do would be send it back. Everyone has there own thinking on this and only you can decide what you would feel comfortable doing. Personally, I'd have a hard time sending that set back!
 

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You win some you lose some, and you just won this one:thumbup:. Dont even think about returning it. (I am assuming it was addressed to you)
 

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LOL.

You could be like the guy that ordered a $350 television, got a $1600 AR assault rifle delivered instead, called teh police, the FBI took the weapon and the TV seller kept his cash. Now he is out $350 and no TV.

No good deed goes unpunished. :)

From yesterday.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/20...=socialmedia&utm_campaign=googleplusclickthru

When D.C. resident Seth Horvitz ordered a flat-panel TV on Amazon, he didn’t expect to get a military-grade assault rifle in return.

Horvitz ordered the TV, a Westinghouse 39-inch LCD, for about $320 from a third-party electronics seller on Amazon.

On Tuesday evening, a large, oblong box arrived at his doorstep via UPS Ground.

“When I saw some metal parts inside the box, I thought, ‘Maybe this is a TV stand or mount or something,’” Horvitz said in a phone interview with Wired.

“When I realized it was an assault rifle, it was pure shock and disbelief.”

Not being one to want a personal “shock and awe” arsenal of his own, Horvitz contacted the D.C. police. They immediately confiscated the box, which contained a semi-automatic Sig Sauer 716 patrol rifle. The police informed Horvitz that the gun was illegal in the District of Columbia.

Seth Horvitz tried to leave this review for the TV he ordered, but Amazon rejected it.

“They took the gun away, gave me a report number, and said, ‘I hope you get your TV, or I hope you get your money back,’” said Horvitz.

An invoice found inside the box, Horvitz said, listed the sender as online gun retailer Gunbuyer.com. The invoice, for $1,590, was addressed to Independence Gun Shop, a gun store in Duncansville, Pennsylvania.

Jason Sidney, the gun shop owner, told Wired the incident baffles him, too.

“I’m not sure how it happened,” Sidney said.”We order a lot from the internet, but this is the first time this has ever happened.”

“I was more or less the middleman,” Sidney said. “The guy ordered stuff from the internet, it has to go through an approved federal firearms licensed shop…. You verify licenses on both ends, the shipper and the receiver, and you ship the gun to the approved ATF FFL holder.”

But last night he got a call from a police officer saying the gun has been mis-delivered and that it’s in impound waiting for him to pick it up.

When asked if he mistakenly received a TV: “That would be nice.”

Horvitz contacted Amazon and the third-party seller. He said that Amazon customer service basically gave him “the standard line of sending a dispute claim for sending the wrong product.”

The third-party Amazon seller, Horvitz said, denied any involvement with shipping the gun.

“When I contacted the seller about it, they denied knowing anything about it,” Horvitz said. “They acted surprised — ‘I’d never owned a gun in my life.’ Amazon shut down their account.”

The evidence points to a UPS mix-up. The outside of the box had two address labels on it – and Horvitz’s address was on top.

“There’s a UPS label on the outside of the box that matched my information, and had the tracking number,” Horvitz said. “But underneath my label — the plastic bag with my label on it — there was a UPS label affixed to the box with other information on it.

“UPS puts the name label on and then they put a second small sticker — a redundant sticker with the tracking information on it,” he said. “There were two different small stickers as well. There was a small sticker that matched the label under mine, and a small sticker that matched mine.”

UPS did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

A reverse lookup of the tracking number on the package shows that the package originated in Daytona Beach, Florida, on Aug. 3. The package then hopped to Jacksonville, Florida; Baltimore, Maryland; and Landover, Maryland; before finally arriving at Horvitz’s doorstep on Aug. 7.

This is not a manual for a TV. Photo courtesy of Seth Horvitz

“[The police] were kind of confused at first,” Horvitz said. “They spent some time inspecting the gun, asking some questions about how I made the Amazon purchase…. They confirmed that it was a weapon that you can’t own in the district. They said by law that you can’t return this; we have to confiscate it and handle it for you.”

Horvitz just wants his TV.

“I wanted something that would be good as a computer monitor, that would be good for movies, too,” he said.

Sad. :(
 
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I would have just kept my mouth shut and added a new rifle to my collection....but obviously that guys a libtard
 

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I would have just kept my mouth shut and added a new rifle to my collection....but obviously that guys a libtard

possession of it would be a felony in DC, as such, the guy did the smart thing and called MPD.

my mother's former boss found a functioning WWII German MP40 machine gun among his father's possessions when his mother died.

also being a law abiding citizen, he notified his local police, who routed him to the ATF, who told him donate it or face a $10k fine and jail time.

he donated it to the springfield armory in MA.
 

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Of course you take steps to send it back. Why is it even a need to discuss that?
 

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Be aware that the link you shared is from a company that pays you money for shopping through the link. Based on your post history I doubt this was intentional.

This is the company that the link is from: http://www.viglink.com/
 

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TO be honest... If it was addressed to you, and you didn't order it, I would call sears and see what they say... they will likely tell you to keep it. I would certainly call and ask where my weed eater is!
 

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What would **** is if that tool set was being looked at on same computer at an earlier time and it was still in the cache, so the credit card was billed for that too. Would **** even more if it was your friend credit card that it got charged on :)
 

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You should send it back....libtards will start telling you how often you can use it.
 

Matt018

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like others said I would pay you 60 for it. but if it were me. especially with how sears has treated me before i wouldnt think twice about keeping it.
 

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If it was me... I'd sit on it for a month or so and make sure no charges popped up on anyones credit card for it. Once I knew I was in the clear on that... it gets added to the toolbox!
 

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I ordered a $100 part. I received the part, then I received a $1k part a few days later.
I called the company, and the guy gave me the 3rd degree about the item, why I wanted to return it etc. I was ready to hang up, but a light bulb finally went off in his head when I described some aspect of the part to him.
He said, "Oh, hold on" And a manager came on the phone, more than eager to get it back from me. I told him that if he'd waited 10 seconds, he'd be missing one $1k part. I was offered $20 store credit for it, but I told the manager that his first-line customer service was so bad, I don't ever plan on buying from them again.

So... keep it is my recommendation.
 

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What would **** is if that tool set was being looked at on same computer at an earlier time and it was still in the cache, so the credit card was billed for that too. Would **** even more if it was your friend credit card that it got charged on :)


I'm with this guy, check your credit card. You may have paid for it.

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put yourself in the sender's shoes - if you accidently shipped the wrong, higher priced item, wouldn't you want the addressee to help you correct your error?

another thought - what if they had sent you a $20 item instead of the $60 item you ordered - would you contact them then to fix the mistake?

keeping something you did not pay for is stealing, plain and simple.

i'd return it - no doubt. right is right and wrong is wrong.
 

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I'm with this guy, check your credit card. You may have paid for it.

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just playing devils advocate...cause i know ive almost done this.. have you ever looked at that set before and added it to your cart? my sears page keeps stuff forever in the cart till you go and manually remove them...ie you might of accidently bought it?
 

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Why is this even being debated? You didn't order it, so regardless of whether or not your name is on the package, it should be returned.
 
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I'm just amazed ... that's not even close to a weed wacker. Package probably weighed a good bit too.

the box literally weighed 100 + lbs. i cant fathom how the mistake was made.i didnt accidentaly order it and im going to keep the tools. i had this happen to me before with sears and I had to jump thru hoops to return their item.then they refunded my money when they got it back and i had to reorder what i wanted...no thanks. this dog needs a little sun on his *** for once
 

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possession of it would be a felony in DC, as such, the guy did the smart thing and called MPD.

my mother's former boss found a functioning WWII German MP40 machine gun among his father's possessions when his mother died.

also being a law abiding citizen, he notified his local police, who routed him to the ATF, who told him donate it or face a $10k fine and jail time.

he donated it to the springfield armory in MA.

Law abiding citizen or not, asking for those thugs to come into your life is plain stupid.


As far as the craftsman set goes, I'd send it back, but that's just me.
 

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You should call and get your weed wacker. I bet they let you keep the tools as sears is retarded. If they have a problem say you can't wait around for ups to come you hae to work and make it really hard for them to pick them up, your not driving them anywhere because they are heavy and gas isn't free
 

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From the Federal Trade Commission's website http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/products/pro15.shtm

Q. What should I do if the unordered merchandise I received was the result of an honest shipping error?

A. Write the seller and offer to return the merchandise, provided the seller pays for postage and handling. Give the seller a specific and reasonable amount of time (say 30 days) to pick up the merchandise or arrange to have it returned at no expense to you. Tell the seller that you reserve the right to keep the merchandise or dispose of it after the specified time has passed.
 

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From the Federal Trade Commission's website http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/products/pro15.shtm

Q. What should I do if the unordered merchandise I received was the result of an honest shipping error?

A. Write the seller and offer to return the merchandise, provided the seller pays for postage and handling. Give the seller a specific and reasonable amount of time (say 30 days) to pick up the merchandise or arrange to have it returned at no expense to you. Tell the seller that you reserve the right to keep the merchandise or dispose of it after the specified time has passed.

These are more important:

Q. Am I obligated to return or pay for merchandise I never ordered?

A. No. If you receive merchandise that you didn’t order, you have a legal right to keep it as a free gift.

Q. Must I notify the seller if I keep unordered merchandise without paying for it?

A. You have no legal obligation to notify the seller. However, it is a good idea to write a letter to the company stating that you didn’t order the item and, therefore, you have a legal right to keep it for free. This may discourage the seller from sending you bills or dunning notices, or it may help clear up an honest error. Send your letter by certified mail. Keep the return receipt and a copy of the letter for your records. You may need it later.
 

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Good call. If sears goes bankrupt then you can feel guilty, until then, just enjoy the tools.

He shouldn't feel guilty even if they do. They lose by shipping both ways, even if they do get them back. They are terribly mismanaged and deserve what they get.
 

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Personally I would contact Sears and let them make the call. In my opinion taking advantage of someone or a group of someones, be it family, neighbors, kids or even companies lessens me as a person. Would I hope that they told me to keep it? Absolutely. Would I simply grab it and hope that no one noticed? No. My integrity is worth more than $307.79.

The way I look at it is that each individual gets to set the price for their own integrity. Some choose to sell it for the $1 extra the clerk at Walmart gave them, some for the extra $500 refund in a falsified tax return and some choose to not sell regardless of the price. Mine isn't for sale. Is yours?
 

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possession of it would be a felony in DC, as such, the guy did the smart thing and called MPD.

my mother's former boss found a functioning WWII German MP40 machine gun among his father's possessions when his mother died.

also being a law abiding citizen, he notified his local police, who routed him to the ATF, who told him donate it or face a $10k fine and jail time.

he donated it to the springfield armory in MA.

LOL just gave it away. Dumb.
 
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im thinking that if this happened to anyone here that you would keep it..it sounds great to be "moral" and "honest" and all,im just not beleiving you would send back TOOLS!!!!.. to each his own i guess
 
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