union made tools?

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

I think everyone need to read "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand if you already haven't. It opened up my eyes.

My favorite book.

 

[jeffk14]

It depends on how you define winning my friend. If I give 100 percent everyday i go to sleep knowing I've done my best. Winning is not always financial. Winning is an attitude and like Vince Lombardi says winners don't come in second.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah blah blah. When all else fails, "waxing philosophical" is as good of a fall-back position as any, I guess. I'm tired of this. Whatever blows your skirt up.

 

[briandrex]

Ya just ask Charlie Sheen

Exactly! "Duh Winning!"

 

[tatra]

money in fat cat union leaders pockets or in fat cat corp. exec's ?...........hmmmmmmmm.........i'm sure the execs. have my best intrests at heart being an employee...........oh yea, i can vote out the union leaders............had a convo with a staunch right wing sort that had to deal with union and non union shops operated by the same company he worked for and he admitted the union run shops were much more organized and had the answers for him he needed as everyone had specific job descriptions, even mgmt...........non union shops were a free for all...........and as for unions being too costly to do a job, we have had sub contractors come on site and leave half way thru a job as we brought it to mgmt's attention as to how the subs were not following safety procedures........became to costly to do it the way we had to following regs...........

 

[briggsguy17]

Never mind the public union debate.........how about the NFL player's union????? Now that is greed!!!!!

 

[kornjulio]

I soooooo want to add gas to this fire by bringing up the report on Wisconsin bus drivers who make over 100K/year....but I'm not going to.....

 

[briggsguy17]

As a cop in a small town (from your avatar I'm assuming) that may be the case but in the case of the state of Wisconsin and state employees, what jmh is saying is absolutely true.

That is part of my argument. Don't throw the small local unions in with the big, state employee ones. We are not the same.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

Never mind the public union debate.........how about the NFL player's union????? Now that is greed!!!!!

I'm totally on the player's side here. The union and the owners signed a contract a few years ago, and now the owners want to take back what the union got...during a time of incredible prosperity as far as the NFL goes.

So why are the players greedy?

 

[stolender]

I was born into a union family. Worked 10 years in a construction union, and worked 34 years for New York State as a union worker and union steward for my last 10 years of service. I have an outstanding retirement with a prescription plan and health care coverage for the rest of my life above and beyond what Medicare will pay.
The union paid for my house, 6 BMW's and my Caprice winter beater.
I have money in the bank and my retirement is secure for the rest of my life.
I try to buy union made products, cars, clothing, tools and am interested in supporting union tool manufacturers in the US or worldwide.
Thank you IUOE and PEF for the wonderful life you have provided for me.

 

[Bryan Burns]

60 minutes brought home a point on tonight's show about how teachers can't be fired for perfomance reasons (it's called tenure).

WTF?

How did it get to that point? How about making them accountable to their bosses (the principals)? Just like most of us?? Make the bosses accounatable to their bosses?

I'm the son of a deceased union sheet metal worker and my mom is doing quite well because of his benefits so you'd think I'd be pro union. I'm not. I'm not anti-union either. I've been in a union or two. But the frickin' teachers unions? I pay five figures a year in property taxes for a house that's now worth less than 300K thanks to teachers unions.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

I was born into a union family. Worked 10 years in a construction union, and worked 34 years for New York State as a union worker and union steward for my last 10 years of service. I have an outstanding retirement with a prescription plan and health care coverage for the rest of my life above and beyond what Medicare will pay.
The union paid for my house, 6 BMW's and my Caprice winter beater.
I have money in the bank and my retirement is secure for the rest of my life.
I try to buy union made products, cars, clothing, tools and am interested in supporting union tool manufacturers in the US or worldwide.
Thank you IUOE and PEF for the wonderful life you have provided for me.

So what happens when the taxpayers of New York State can no longer afford your lavish union benefits?

 

[scott37300]

I soooooo want to add gas to this fire by bringing up the report on Wisconsin bus drivers who make over 100K/year....but I'm not going to.....

Well since you DID bring this to the fire. Without even getting into the union vs non union stuff, who's fault is it that they are making that much? Do you even know why they make that much? It's overtime, which means poor management, not the employees making to much. Yes their benefits and pay are on the higher end of the scale and some cuts were in order, but the majority of the reason they make that much is due to overtime, which is managements fault. You can't really blame the union drivers when they are offered/told to drive overtime by the boss.

 

[Bull]

In case anyone gets to wondering, it's me who is locking this.

In case anyone wants to know why: unions and politics are synonymous, and politics are verboten here.