Unior tools

[Miskin]

i mean it's the screwdriver, anyway for what i'll be using it on it's not that ******** so i feel a bit better now.

having a hard time locating a set of Unior combination wrenches, all they have left here is individual pieces & it'll cost more buying every single one i need.

was looking to buy Unior allen & torx key wrenches but settled on Beargrip instead, wasn't disappointed one bit, they are still great tools.

happy new year to you too.

btw i love your micrometer & bore gauges.

The micrometer & bore gauges are not mine, They're "job tools"
Unior tools are very popular in Greece.Considered top notch. It's not true.From my experience in Unior tools:
Good quality ratchets
Medium quality sockets (the small sockets like 8,10,12 are ****, the big ones
like 20, 22, 24 etc are excellent, both small and big ones never rust)
Awful quality scredrivers
Poor quality hex bit sockets
Poor quality hex keys
Great quality wrenches
Great quality mallets and hammers
The Beargrip is a good choice.
I need to say that these views for Unior tools are for profesional use. For DIY Unior are just fine (except from screwdrivers, taiwanese are cheaper and stronger).

 

[OveRReV]

The micrometer & bore gauges are not mine, They're "job tools"
Unior tools are very popular in Greece.Considered top notch. It's not true.From my experience in Unior tools:
Good quality ratchets
Medium quality sockets (the small sockets like 8,10,12 are ****, the big ones
like 20, 22, 24 etc are excellent, both small and big ones never rust)
Awful quality scredrivers
Poor quality hex bit sockets
Poor quality hex keys
Great quality wrenches
Great quality mallets and hammers
The Beargrip is a good choice.
I need to say that these views for Unior tools are for profesional use. For DIY Unior are just fine (except from screwdrivers, taiwanese are cheaper and stronger).

i see, would love to have one of those bore gauges but they cost an arm & a leg over here.

what about the pliers? i can't stop looking at the Unior tool catalog i snagged at the local dealer, i really want the combination wrenches but looks like i might settle for Toptul.

 

[Miskin]

i see, would love to have one of those bore gauges but they cost an arm & a leg over here.

what about the pliers? i can't stop looking at the Unior tool catalog i snagged at the local dealer, i really want the combination wrenches but looks like i might settle for Toptul.

Why do you need a bore gauge?
The pliers are very good. For professional use also.
What do you mean "i might settle for Toptul"? Toptul are quality professional tools! You buy Toptul, you buy Facom, same stuff about wrenches. My friend you have to start reading "Tools from the old world" thread.

 

[OveRReV]

Why do you need a bore gauge?
The pliers are very good. For professional use also.
What do you mean "i might settle for Toptul"? Toptul are quality professional tools! You buy Toptul, you buy Facom, same stuff about wrenches. My friend you have to start reading "Tools from the old world" thread.

i'm a motorcycle tech by profession & i work on almost all bikes (sportbikes, scooters, 2T & 4T), i got some training at an automotive tech school & we were also taught how to use bore gauges & they had Mitutoyo. would like to get a 50mm, 75mm & 100mm bore gauges.

so Toptul makes wrenches for Facom eh, i have a Facom adjustable pin spanner wrench which is made in taiwan, tomorrow i will rush over to the Toptul dealer & get me a set of combination wrenches, i hope they have a thin combination wrench as adjusting the shock length on my 600RR is a PITA with standard thickness wrenches.

that thread you said contains thousands of pages & i don't know where to start. LOL

 

[Miskin]

i'm a motorcycle tech by profession & i work on almost all bikes (sportbikes, scooters, 2T & 4T), i got some training at an automotive tech school & we were also taught how to use bore gauges & they had Mitutoyo. would like to get a 50mm, 75mm & 100mm bore gauges.

so Toptul makes wrenches for Facom eh, i have a Facom adjustable pin spanner wrench which is made in taiwan, tomorrow i will rush over to the Toptul dealer & get me a set of combination wrenches, i hope they have a thin combination wrench as adjusting the shock length on my 600RR is a PITA with standard thickness wrenches.

that thread you said contains thousands of pages & i don't know where to start. LOL

Start from the beginning. I'm in page 62!

 

[OveRReV]

Start from the beginning. I'm in page 62!

i didn't even get to page 10, way too much info to digest. LOL

anyway i called one other branch of the Unior tools dealer & asked if they have a combination wrench set in stock, asked me if i wanted an 8-24 or 8-32 & how many, i was excited because there maybe some stocks left, told me to call back in 5 to check the inventory. took a shower then called them back & a couple of minutes of waiting the answer was they ran out of stock, in my mind i was like.....

my last hopes of buying a quality euro combination wrench set vanished so i was left with no other choice to buy either Japan or Taiwan made so off i went to Tools From Us. looking around i still saw some nice KTC open & box end wrenches but no combination wrench set was available, i held one of the open end wrenches & they were indeed high quality pieces, it looked like they were cnc'd as the corners were sharp, might get one of them KTC open end wrench sets if i can scrape enough change, also saw a few sets of Knipex pliers but they really pricey but they do look the part though, i still prefer Unior pliers because they cost half as much & still looks high end.

anyway to cut the story short i ended up buying the Toptul new generation combination wrench set & added a few more sizes which i find lacking in the set, also found an adjustable hook wrench which i have been searching for so long, needed 1 to replace my crappy Honda OEM shock spanner wrench which keeps slipping & busting my knuckles, the hook spanner wrench really looked & felt high quality.

was also going to buy a set of metric 1/2" impact sockets but their stock hasn't arrived from the warehouse yet, bummer as i was really itching to buy it to test my Aircat impact gun on bigger bolts & nuts, maybe i shall look into Unior impact sockets next time.

 

[Jure]

i see, would love to have one of those bore gauges but they cost an arm & a leg over here.

what about the pliers? i can't stop looking at the Unior tool catalog i snagged at the local dealer, i really want the combination wrenches but looks like i might settle for Toptul.

never had an issue with unior pliers,they are nice. also i have T handle allen keys and i like them alot.

 

[Miskin]

My only complaint about Unior pliers is the handle

 

[OveRReV]

updating this thread with my latest Unior tools purchases, Unior 1/2 impact sockets in 10-12-14-17-19-22-24-27-30-32mm & a 3/8-1/2 socket adaptor, please forgive the crappy pics taken by my camera phone.

not related to this thread but it's worth mentioning anyway, i was browsing all over the hardware store & saw some old KTC tools, there were a few impact sockets that were lying around & they were really nice, much better finish than the Unior but they were limited to just a handful of sizes & the prices was double that of the Unior, the KTC 3/8 swivel head ratchet was also really nice but at half the cost of an Unior 3/8 drive socket set i'll pass. KTC tools look definitely at par with Snap On tools.

i also saw some Knipex pliers, only a handful are left, they really do look very nice but the price of a Knipex plier can get me 2 Unior pliers, as they say you get what you pay for but i don't abuse my tools (most of the time ) so i'm ok with Unior.

 

[Jure]

My only complaint about Unior pliers is the handle

i had VDE knipex diagonal cutters with handle like that

 

[stricht8]

Yes, Greece is where I first saw Unior tools in abundance. I was looking to buy some Facom wrenches there some years ago and the dealer was pushing the Unior stuff as he didn't have the Facom in stock. He was insistent that the Unior was as good as Facom. By the looks of the tools he was probably right! I hadn't heard of Unior at that time so I didn't trust them. I'd buy them now in a heartbeat.

 

[Miskin]

Yes, Greece is where I first saw Unior tools in abundance. I was looking to buy some Facom wrenches there some years ago and the dealer was pushing the Unior stuff as he didn't have the Facom in stock. He was insistent that the Unior was as good as Facom. By the looks of the tools he was probably right! I hadn't heard of Unior at that time so I didn't trust them. I'd buy them now in a heartbeat.

No he wasn't. Not even close Unior equal to Facom. Unior is a desent, money for value, brand. Facom is high quality brand. For example Facom ratchets are equal with German brands like Hazet and Gedore. Unior can't stand to this comparison.

 

[stricht8]

No he wasn't. Not even close Unior equal to Facom. Unior is a desent, money for value, brand. Facom is high quality brand. For example Facom ratchets are equal with German brands like Hazet and Gedore. Unior can't stand to this comparison.

OK good to know! Maybe on a par with Craftsman then?
Efxaristo file.

 

[Miskin]

OK good to know! Maybe on a par with Craftsman then?
Efxaristo file.

With the old made in USA Craftsman Unior can't stand a chance.
With the new chinese **** Unior prevail

Parakalo!

 

[OveRReV]

Yes, Greece is where I first saw Unior tools in abundance. I was looking to buy some Facom wrenches there some years ago and the dealer was pushing the Unior stuff as he didn't have the Facom in stock. He was insistent that the Unior was as good as Facom. By the looks of the tools he was probably right! I hadn't heard of Unior at that time so I didn't trust them. I'd buy them now in a heartbeat.

i have had craftsman ratchets before, the newer style USA made ones & they are not very good, the ball locking mechanism that holds the socket keeps getting stuck so the sockets just fall off when you don't want them & the ratcheting mechanism looks poorly made. Unior ratchets & sockets are definitely better than the last generation USA made ratchets & sockets, the new chinese craftsman ratchets are definitely ****, would choose Toptul over craftsman anytime but i'm partial to Unior.

just to add, when i was studying as an automotive tech about 15yrs ago all the shop tools were Unior & the ratchets & sockets were very used & sometimes abused, during my time there i haven't seen their sockets & ratchets break & i was the one in charge of keeping the shop tools, that is also where i first saw the Unior brand & it has made a good impression on me, when i buy Unior it takes me back to my early years as a tech, back then tools were cheaper so with even my allowance money i started to collect my own tools but now i left some of them back at my home province & my brother still uses them at our shop there.

 

[Jure]

With the old made in USA Craftsman Unior can't stand a chance.With the new chinese **** Unior prevail

Parakalo!

you must be joking old and new unior will eat craftsman...

 

[Miskin]

you must be joking old and new unior will eat craftsman...

I was mention in old and new Craftsman, not old and new Unior. Unior is the same from the start

 

[OveRReV]

you must be joking old and new unior will eat craftsman...

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaamen!

 

[JukeBox]

My only complaint about Unior pliers is the handle

Put handle in boiling water, add some glue, Pattex Extreme repairand will be fine and give it back. Problem of Unior - handles sometimes remains in the hands

 

[agrasic]

No he wasn't. Not even close Unior equal to Facom. Unior is a desent, money for value, brand. Facom is high quality brand. For example Facom ratchets are equal with German brands like Hazet and Gedore. Unior can't stand to this comparison.

Hey, my first post on this forum, but you forced me to register.

My home country being Slovenia (yes, unior tools are made 1hr away from me)(well F0ck, from end to end of the country there is 2hr drive =) ),
i do have to ask you, WHY Unior can't compete with hazzet or gedore? As i work a lot in Germany, i always geet: "wow, du hasst ja abber Unior Werkzeuge", In translation from german, that means: Nice dude, i like your unior tools.

And yes, Unior is superior to Hazet. big time. Want to know why?
it's because almost all sockets and wrenches are made of CrMO material instead of cheaper ChRome VAnadium.

http://www.bondhus.com/metallurgy/body-1.htm

If you can not believe my words, I can make a video and risk one of both ratchets and make them kaput. If hazet breakes first, you send me money (paypal preffered ) for a new (unior) ratchet, and if unior breakes first, you tell me your address and i send u the hazet ratchet

And yes, Unior is recognized all over Europe, but many of the people only saw it or heard about it, because it can be paintfully expensive. I had my toolbag stolen once in Polland, and was forced to buy first tools i could find there. I still have some of them (they were not even cheap), but mainly i broke most of them with my (usa imported) Dewalt dc820. thumbup: thumbs up for that tool). Anyway, i have calculated the value of that toolbag, i forgot the number but it was paintfull.



Greetings, Alex.

 

[Miskin]

Hey, my first post on this forum, but you forced me to register.

My home country being Slovenia (yes, unior tools are made 1hr away from me)(well F0ck, from end to end of the country there is 2hr drive =) ),
i do have to ask you, WHY Unior can't compete with hazzet or gedore? As i work a lot in Germany, i always geet: "wow, du hasst ja abber Unior Werkzeuge", In translation from german, that means: Nice dude, i like your unior tools.

And yes, Unior is superior to Hazet. big time. Want to know why?
it's because almost all sockets and wrenches are made of CrMO material instead of cheaper ChRome VAnadium.

http://www.bondhus.com/metallurgy/body-1.htm

If you can not believe my words, I can make a video and risk one of both ratchets and make them kaput. If hazet breakes first, you send me money (paypal preffered ) for a new (unior) ratchet, and if unior breakes first, you tell me your address and i send u the hazet ratchet

And yes, Unior is recognized all over Europe, but many of the people only saw it or heard about it, because it can be paintfully expensive. I had my toolbag stolen once in Polland, and was forced to buy first tools i could find there. I still have some of them (they were not even cheap), but mainly i broke most of them with my (usa imported) Dewalt dc820. thumbup: thumbs up for that tool). Anyway, i have calculated the value of that toolbag, i forgot the number but it was paintfull.



Greetings, Alex.

If hazet breakes first
My dear friend a tool it is not only about endurance. It mostly about tolerances

because it can be paintfully expensive
I don't know about other European countries, in Greece Unior tools are cheap compared to German brands.

P.S.1 Please do me a favour. Go to Unior factory and tell them to make their screwdrivers also from ... CrMO material like their sockets (which i agree about their durability, at least the big ones) because all the drivers i worked in the past was made from ChRome VAnadium and are ****.

P.S.2 Welcome to the forum!!

 

[Droodle]

added some more Unior tools to my collection
was going to buy an 8-32mm Unior combination wrench set but was sold out, felt bad not having to take home that set, now i'm forced to track down shops that sell these tools hoping to find an old set.

Theres actually used Unior wrenches for sale here for as low as 50 cent a piece ! Theyre so endurable.. I love the Unior LSI series !
I bought a Unior EXTRA 12 - 13 mm wrench and a Gedore 14 - 17 mm wrench for 2 dollars total lol.

Also , i forgot to mention that i live in Bosnia

 

[Jure]

If hazet breakes first
My dear friend a tool it is not only about endurance. It mostly about tolerances

because it can be paintfully expensive
I don't know about other European countries, in Greece Unior tools are cheap compared to German brands.

P.S.1 Please do me a favour. Go to Unior factory and tell them to make their screwdrivers also from ... CrMO material like their sockets (which i agree about their durability, at least the big ones) because all the drivers i worked in the past was made from ChRome VAnadium and are ****.

P.S.2 Welcome to the forum!!

here in croatia hazet/unior is pretty much the same in price,stahlwille is faaaaaaaar expensive..

hahha no thanks,we dont need unior screwdrivers,wiha is alwass wiha lol,i only use unior screwdrivers if i need a socket extension,i cut unior screwdriver to weld extra long extension lol

 

[Msd.Sociance]

Unior Tools Are Nice But Old Unior Tools Are Better ...
I've some Unior. old & new

 

[agrasic]

If hazet breakes first
My dear friend a tool it is not only about endurance. It mostly about tolerances

because it can be paintfully expensive
I don't know about other European countries, in Greece Unior tools are cheap compared to German brands.

P.S.1 Please do me a favour. Go to Unior factory and tell them to make their screwdrivers also from ... CrMO material like their sockets (which i agree about their durability, at least the big ones) because all the drivers i worked in the past was made from ChRome VAnadium and are ****.

P.S.2 Welcome to the forum!!

Hello!

Tolerances at wrench? i mostly work 500+km from home, tolerances should be OK, but endurance is the far most important thing to me. My next work will be in Polland. I don't have neither time or will to search for new tools there. I need my tools to be OK.

About the screwdrivers... could someone please take a picture of screwdrivers you are breaking?

@Msd.Sociance, the blue... "new" pliers taht you have on the pictures are not the "premium" pliers from unior. They are normal low cost pliers (still far better than most of the tools, but i hate those tools), i will take you a picture of the proper unior pliers tomorrow.

p.s.: just found a link of the pliers... if you zoom the picture you will see that handles are grey/blue. Those are much better, and last way longer, and they have a MUCH better feel in hands. On the normal (blue) ones, sometimes handles come off etc... I stay away from them.

http://www.merkur.si/delavnica/rocn...-klesce-unior-200-mm-kromirane-art-466bi.html


greetings, Alex.

P.s. thanks, i'm happy i found the forum

 

[Msd.Sociance]

Hi agrasic
I've a grey/blue handle long nose pliers too & I knew grey/blue handles are better than normal blue.
but they aren't very different in material (Except Handles) & I say again old unior tools are better than Newest..

tnx

 

[Miskin]

I use (and abuse) these Unior tools everyday for 6-7 years at least.
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View media item 29741The short flat screwdriver is ... short from the grinding. All the flat tips broke so only solution was the bench grinder
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View media item 29748Very durable plastic hammer
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[Droodle]

The new Unior tools are decent, but the old ones are just as good if not even better than facom , craftsman and everything else..
Here in Bosnia , some guy was selling used unior wrenches for 1 euro a piece , i got myself ten because i didnt have more money with me haha. I have lots of other unior tools , ill post pics later.

Also , get those knipex pliers , you wont regret.. Ive even used my knipex combination pliers on 15 mm bolts on my bicycle.. Theyre indestructible

 

[mattmartin]

hi there
im a cycle mechanic in England and I use unior tools every day at work they get such a beating , I ve even putting poles on the ends with no problems what so ever the only bad thing I would say is that the comfort handles are a bit too chunky to work in tights spaces for the cars but apart from that big thumbs up for unior .
ps the unior bottle openers rule

 

[mkstuls]

 

[OveRReV]

hi there it's been a long time since i posted here, i jut want to update this thread with a new purchase from Unior, pleae forgive the quality as the pics don't do justice as to how these tools look in person.

now my socket set is complete (for now) & the screwdrivers are rarely used for anything other turning adjusters on suspension, the stubby screwdrivers are for the really tight spots on the motorcycle.

the downside is that the price for the socket set has gone up by $20, wish i bought it last month instead of today, damn inflation making paper money worth less.

 

[toolmaniac]

I have an "vise grip" style wire terminal crimper I use all the time. Any one has ever used one?

 

[Plombob]

I have an "vise grip" style wire terminal crimper I use all the time. Any one has ever used one?

I've never even seen one! Don't know why you would need a vise grip crimper.

 

[toolmaniac]

Plombob, the idea is that once you set your first crimp, using the adjusting bolt, you can do repetitive crimps, applying the same pressure to the rest of the connectors.

 

[OveRReV]

wassup guys! just updating this thread with my latest Unior tools purchase, been eyeing their torque wrenches for a long time & it's about time i got one in 1/2" drive.

28-210 Nm, got this to use for tightening axles & bolts for motorcycle wheels & the occasional nut for the clutch hub.

bumping hammers, this is quite different from the hammer i got & i like to be different.

circlip pliers, needed the small ones for use inside brake master cylinders.

 

[mkstuls]

What COO has the UNIOR torque wrench?

 

[Miskin]

What COO has the UNIOR torque wrench?

Taiwan.

http://www.matatakitoyo.com/

http://www.taiwantrade.com.tw/EP/matatakitoyo/

 

[mkstuls]

Taiwan.

http://www.matatakitoyo.com/

http://www.taiwantrade.com.tw/EP/matatakitoyo/

The Matatakitoyo looks like Force Torque Wrenches.

I think the Unior is form other manufacturer if the COO is Taiwan
Unior looks like this one

 

[OveRReV]

doesn't have a COO on mine, it also doesn't look anything like the pics you posted.

just searched the alibaba pages for torque wrench manufacturers in taiwan & this is most likely the candidate.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/1209483525/Lowest_price_of_torque_wrench.html

it even matches the plastic case.

 

[Miskin]

The Matatakitoyo looks like Force Torque Wrenches.

I think the Unior is form other manufacturer if the COO is Taiwan
Unior looks like this one

I insist ...