Unknown plier markings

[Private Lugnutz]

I found a few needles nose pliers today with a bunch of wire gauge high speed drills and a few other very small machinists items.

Is anyone familiar with the markings inside the handle on these? To me it looks like a paw with claws and a monogram with a "W" and two "S's". They are US made (See Thumbnail 2). See Thumbnail 1 for entire plier.

Also, on a pair of Klein pliers (See Thumbnail 4 & 5), there is also a marking I am not familiar with. A delta or triangle symbol, like so... /\ ...followed by the date code ("ENN"), or, 4th quarter, 1966. Anybody seen the delta before or know what it signifies?

 

[DadsTools]

The SS in the WSS seems to me that its intention would be self-evident to buyer, so it's either the initials of the company name, OR may be a strong possibility that it stands for Stainless Steel. The tool looks like it might be of stainless steel. Could be that the company was known for stainless steel tools, so the SS might then be both a steel designation AND initials representing the company name. The mark might be better known in an industry unrelated to mechanical work like dentistry or jewelry. Anyway, these are just a few thoughts that might open up possible avenues for further research.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

You might be right, especially given the presence of the other marking.

 

[MisterEd]

Old thread that asks my question . . . sorta.

Who is "S. & Co."?

 

[MisterEd]

And this one?

 

[MAD]

Is anyone familiar with the markings inside the handle on these? To me it looks like a paw with claws and a monogram with a "W" and two "S's".

There are a bunch of dental tools on ebay with similar marking. (Some with patent dates)
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=WSS+DENTAL+TOOL&_sacat=0

 

[RTM]

Well heck. Another one that asks the same question. Thanks to MrEd for resurrecting this thread. I found these pliers a few months back, and gave up trying to figure out who WSS or SSW or....... was. These are Ainsworth patent hole punch pliers. with the WSS stamped into both sides of the pivot area.

<Dang, MAD beat me to it.> I see the Ainsworth punch listed with lot of dental tools, so that might be a path to dig down.





And segregating out results to exclude "War Savings Stamps" gets ugly

 

[MAD]

Old thread that asks my question . . . sorta.

Who is "S. & Co."?

Maybe "Sargent & Co."

 

[MisterEd]

Maybe "Sargent & Co."

Maybe. They know Pliers. Thanks for the idea.

 

[RTM]

OK, its not WSS, its SSW. SS White Dental Manufacturing Company. Following up on MAD's ebay link, one had a link to patent info

Pardon Our Interruption...

A little brute force searching, #780 out of 904 patents issued that day.

US1606686A - Dental extracting device - Google Patents

Leads us to

SS White Dental

www.sswhitedental.com

Logo on this page, with established 1844

History

www.sswhitedental.com

And SS stands for Samuel Stockton

S.S. White Dental Manufacturing Company photographs | Hagley Digital Archives

digital.hagley.org

 

[MisterEd]

Well heck. Another one that asks the same question. Thanks to MrEd for resurrecting this thread.

You're welcome. It was the most I could do.

 

[MAD]

OK, its not WSS, its SSW. SS White Dental Manufacturing Company. Following up on MAD's ebay link, one had a link to patent info

Pardon Our Interruption...

A little brute force searching, #780 out of 904 patents issued that day.

US1606686A - Dental extracting device - Google Patents

Leads us to

SS White Dental

www.sswhitedental.com

Logo on this page, with established 1844

History

www.sswhitedental.com

And SS stands for Samuel Stockton

S.S. White Dental Manufacturing Company photographs | Hagley Digital Archives

digital.hagley.org

Well done!

 

[MAD]

Maybe. They know Pliers. Thanks for the idea.

I looked through Sargent 1910 catalog https://archive.org/details/Sargent/page/n5/mode/thumb?view=theater and found an image of a tool marked "S. & Co.". There are also round nose pliers. The picture is not a slam-dunk match, but they list them in seven sizes with only one illustration.

 

[MisterEd]

tool marked "S. & Co.". There are also round nose pliers.

Outstanding. Hadn't made it to Archive.org yet to look since you suggested Sargent. I owe you . . . uh . . . something.

Thanks!

 

[four.cycle]

International Tool Catalog Library is your friend

 

[RTM]

Just to add a little bit of nightmare to this thread, here is an 1867 Catalog of Dental Tools, Furniture, and Materials from SS White Dental Manufacturing. @Mark Stansbury maybe link to this one?

Catalogue of dental materials, furniture, instruments, etc. : S.S. White Dental Manufacturing Company (Philadelphia, Pa.) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

archive.org

Here is 1876

Samuel S. White Catalogue of Dental Instruments and Equipment

books.google.com

Publisher: S.S. White Dental Mfg. Co. | Open Library

Open Library is an open, editable library catalog, building towards a web page for every book ever published. Read, borrow, and discover more than 3M books for free.

openlibrary.org

And if that doesn't get you, maybe these will. A few other catalogs in there, but a bit above my buy and donate to ITCL library.

S.s.white, Dental – AbeBooks

AbeBooks is the world's largest marketplace for new, used and out of print books.

www.abebooks.com

So much stuff to make your skin crawl once you know the right name.

Edit: here is another copy of 1876, readable this time

Catalogue of dental materials, furniture, instruments, etc. : for sale by Samuel S. White, manufacturer, importer and wholesale dealer in all articles appertaining to dentistry / by Samuel S. White. : Samuel S. White. : Free Download, Borrow, and Str

archive.org