Unpickable dead bolt? any locksmiths ?

[rlitman]

You can use the non-removable pin hinges, but I prefer the ones that have a recess in one side, and a pressed section sticking up on the other side that mates with it. When the door is closed, you can't pull the door without spreading the frame. This works perfectly in concrete walls, with commercial steel doors.

In a more "flexible" scenario (wood frame, steel clad, wood core door), I get two 2" or so lag bolts, and screw them in to the hinge side of the door so that about 1/2" of unthreaded shank is exposed. I then cut the head off, and drill holes in the door frame so that the door can close.
It's like the hinge side of a safe door.

 

[venturesomerite]

Well since it has been discussed which lock to use, may I suggest Appearance?

Use 3 of the best deadbolts you can find, keyed differently. Make the thing look like they shouldn't even bother to try and pick it.


Steel studs, set and filled with concrete.


No matter what you do, they want in, they'll get in. The key is to make it not worth the effort and time, so they move on to an easier score.



I purposely don't paint the garage doors and always keep them closed to prevent people from seeing what's in there, and to make it just look like some old crappy garage.

 

[805gregg]

Just move to a better area.

 

[MoToys]

Use 3 of the best deadbolts you can find, keyed differently.

What is the point of this?

 

[venturesomerite]

What is the point of this?

Looks more intimidating, harder to pick three different cylinders (for most), harder to break in.

All in all, mostly to look like more of a pain in the ***. Generally speaking, thieves want to get in quick, grab and go. They don't want to spend 3 hours dicking with a bunch of deadbolts. Which is not to say that a battering ram wouldn't take three out, point is, if they want it bad enough, they'll get it. So make it as much of a PITA and take as long as possible. Just MHO.

 

[rodm1]

Well nothing is "Un" anything but I was looking at either at a Medeco Maxum but something tells me anything from Abloy is the way to go since it uses "Plates" making picking virtually impossible even by a pro or even drilling the cylinder.

This lock is going on a windowless steel shop door with a steel frame set in filled cinder block. I'm just on the fence of what dead bolt to buy...

Any ideas?

Medeco Maxum is one of the best choices. It just makes other ways easier to brake in. Most brake ins aren't buy picking but with brutal force.

 

[tjpavlov]

Go with the Medeco. They are expensive, but great.

Medeco does a great job of keeping control of the keys. In order to make a copy of a Medeco key, you need to go submit paperwork. They reference your ID against a list of people who are authorized to get keys for the lock. This prevents a valet or a worker in your house from running to the nearest hardware store and making a copy so that they can rob you later.

Of course, you need to make sure that you have a good door and doorway. Even if you have a great lock it is not of any help if they are just going to kick your door in.

 

[spotco2]

I'm new around here but have owned a locksmith business for the past 15 years and figured I would chime in.

I've followed up and repaired hundreds of homes and businesses that have been broken into and have NEVER seen or heard of a common criminal picking a lock to get in. Sure there have been some locksmiths that turned bad or people that knew how to pick a lock that went after something specific, but it is not the normal.

Smash and grab is what it's all about. Bust a window, kick in a door, peel off a roof vent or gable vent or just drive a car through a garage door. Speed is the key. You want to deter them enough to make them look around at your neighbors houses and see of any of them look easier than yours.

Medeco makes good stuff but we do not sell it. We are a Primus dealer and a GMS RX dealer and sell a lot of both, but usually it's more for key control than anything.

Grout filled, commercial grade, steel frames are awesome when they are installed properly. Team that up with typical commercial hinges (pins can not be removed without opening the door and removing a set screw first) add locking hinge pins, decent deadbolt, door reinforcer and a mag plate and nobody is going to waste their time with that door.

Clear out any shrubs, bushes or anything from around the building that would give anyone a place to hide. Add large flood lights with steel cages to keep someone from busting the bulbs. Add a ADT sign or some sort of security system sign or decal to the door or yard (just the sign works well, crooks don't want to set off an alarm so they will go to your neighbors house).

If you're uber paranoid, then you can add a camera system with GOOD IR cameras that record to a DVR or server and allow you to view on the internet with your phone or laptop. Also a security system (door sensors and motion sensors) that uses a cell phone service and you're more secure than most commercial buildings in your city.

In reality, a solid frame and door with a deadbolt will deter most smash and grab folks and that is more than a lot of commercial buildings use. Just don't forget to insure whatever you have sitting inside that fortress that you have built.

 

[jam0o0]

after surveying everything that anyone i know has had stolen in the last few years, here are the tools used:
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protect your place against that and the guys your worried about will go to the next house.