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Aahz

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I need to find a 15" Drill Press that is made in USA...Anyone have any ideas? It looks like Delta, Jet, etc. are all Chinese mfg anymore..I found one called "Buffalo" but I have no idea on their quality and their literature seems a bit, umm...well lets just say it doesn't look like it's been updated since 1950 or so..
Suggestions would be appreciated..
 
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I need to find a 15" Drill Press that is made in USA...Anyone have any ideas? It looks like Delta, Jet, etc. are all Chinese mfg anymore..I found one called "Buffalo" but I have no idea on their quality and their literature seems a bit, umm...well lets just say it doesn't look like it's been updated since 1950 or so..
Suggestions would be appreciated..

Best bet might be to buy a vintage US-made and just restore it. Had more than a few nice ones for sale in the classifieds, cheaper than buying new plastic-laden import junk. Last one just sold yesterday, once again to someone off-site for more money than I had it listed for here. :dunno:
 

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Best bet might be to buy a vintage US-made and just restore it. Had more than a few nice ones for sale in the classifieds, cheaper than buying new plastic-laden import junk. Last one just sold yesterday, once again to someone off-site for more money than I had it listed for here. :dunno:

Yup.

Older, all metal, and made in USA.

Look for:
Walker Turner
Delta Rockwell
Atlas
Craftsman
 

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I found one called "Buffalo" but I have no idea on their quality and their literature seems a bit, umm...well lets just say it doesn't look like it's been updated since 1950 or so..
Suggestions would be appreciated..

They used to make a good quality maintenance / light production drill press. I would assume they still are.

Are you talking about this bulletin?

http://www.bmt-usa.com/resources/15_18+Drill+Bulletin.pdf

Machine tool manufacturers generally don't print flashy sales bulletins. There's no need for a bunch of fancy photos and page upon page of verbal diarrhea like a car brochure.
 
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To quote an excellent post in the Impala Tech forum (it's about body sheetmetal, but the situation is the same or worse with tools):

"Amana makes about nine different washing machines. That is to say Amana makes one washing machine and puts nine different face plates on the same washer. There are several thousand people who sell Amana washers (you can not buy from them you have to go through a retailer).

"Every one of those retailers says that their name plate Amana is better than brand X's name plate Amana, and there are customers who are loyal to that brand and will only buy it.

"I told you that story because every piece of sheet metal you buy comes from China. They are stamped in one of five foundries in China all owned by one company. They sell their steel stampings to about four different Chinese vendors who export it to the US where there are dozens of other companies putting their name on the same piece of steel. They all claim theirs is the best.

"The difference in the two stories. Amana used to be made in Pennsylvania and Ohio but they have since shipped production to the far east. Amana had very tight quality control. No matter which washer you bought you never got a bad one (there are statistical aberrations but the warranty made them all good).

"With Chinese steel stampings the Chinese do not shut down the line to maintain their dies. They do not maintain consistent draws on the punch presses as there are variances in the steel they buy from recycled scarp (China has no native steel of their own). The Chinese do not have any quality control at all (they don't need it it just adds expense). They will sell you half of a panel or part and tell you that is the way it is supposed to be. If it comes out of the press they ship it and expect to be paid in full for that unit.

"I have no idea what part you bought or from whom, but it is the luck of the draw as to the quality. Buy two or three of the same parts and compare them to each other. No two are exactly alike, it is almost as if they were hand made.

"[signed] Big Dave"
 

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I would also recommend an older one. Usually (depending on where you live) you can find them as cheap as $50 and they are an easy restore. Once you go old, you'll never go back:

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Those older Buffalos are quite nice and good quality. I would assume the new ones are good as well as they seem to be the same design.

I second the suggestion of buying an old one and restoring it. Someone just posted a link to a nice old Walker Turner drill press on Craigslist for $95.
 

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I think there are two Buffalo companies. The older one is great.

If I understand properly, there is BMT (Buffalo machine tool) which is the old american company, and there is Buffalo brand, which is all chinese junk.

There is also General, which has a 15" drill press that looks almost identical to the old Buffalo 15, and is made in Canada.
 

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Big Dave said a lot there, totally agree and more could be said. In most cases the old American iron is far superior to the Asian stuff. I plucked this Powermatic from a school district auction, I bid it up to 400.00 to win. It has no hard use on it at all. That is why I went for it, V-drive variable speed, magnetic switch, weighs well over 500 lbs. Made in 1971, got a 10" Powermatic at the same sale for 520.00 a 1978 Model 66. There is not much coming from Asia that would come close to what I got for my money. If these companies were producing the same quality for this drill press it would absolutely cost between 2800.00 and 3400.00. Go shopping for one, take your time, it will come to you
Will try a picture again later, Sorry
 
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Big Dave said a lot there, totally agree and more could be said. In most cases the old American iron is far superior to the Asian stuff. I plucked this Powermatic from a school district auction, I bid it up to 400.00 to win. It has no hard use on it at all. That is why I went for it, V-drive variable speed, magnetic switch, weighs well over 500 lbs. Made in 1971, got a 10" Powermatic at the same sale for 520.00 a 1978 Model 66. There is not much coming from Asia that would come close to what I got for my money. If these companies were producing the same quality for this drill press it would absolutely cost between 2800.00 and 3400.00. Go shopping for one, take your time, it will come to you
Will try a picture again later, Sorry

Powermatic built some robust machines, parts can be a bit harder to find then ones for Delta, Rockwell/Delta, models but are out there. Let the ones with more money then brains buy ChiCom garbage.
 

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I found one called "Buffalo" but I have no idea on their quality and their literature seems a bit, umm...well lets just say it doesn't look like it's been updated since 1950 or so..
Suggestions would be appreciated..

I cant think of anything much more condfidence raising than literature that hasn't been updated since 1950. Probably means quality haven't been down-dated.

That said, must admit I don't have a clue about Buffalo drill presses.
 
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I see a local ad for a Walker Turner "Driver" line. This any good, and what sort of price is it worth? I can't imagine that switch on the front is factory? It otherwise looks to be in pretty good shape.

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I would also recommend an older one. Usually (depending on where you live) you can find them as cheap as $50 and they are an easy restore. Once you go old, you'll never go back:

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I have this exact drill press and a Jet floor model right along side of it in my shop... The Jet is okay, but this old Craftsman from 1960 is the shiz.... Smooth, quiet, the Jacobs chuck works like it was manufactured yesterday...
I inherited the Craftsman from my Dad when he died. The Jet I had bought about 20 years ago. The Jet works okay but runout on the shaft has become a problem. Maybe because of the years I used it for a lathe and mill before I actually bought the right equipment...

Why American? Did someone actually ask that question here?
 

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I see a local ad for a Walker Turner "Driver" line. This any good, and what sort of price is it worth? I can't imagine that switch on the front is factory? It otherwise looks to be in pretty good shape.

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Walker turner makes NICE presses I have seen/used 2. I would snag it for $300 max if its well kept.
 
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I just purchased a Rockwell Delta 15-017 off Craigslist for $150. Not the most robust of the vintage drill presses, but plenty enough for my use. Have patience and look on craigslist. Older ones ranging from $100-400 is what I'd pay depending on condition and brand. Some of the older craftsmans like above go for around $75-100 unrestored, from what I've seen locally.
 
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It all depends if you want a machine to use, or to look at. If you want the most practical drill press you will ever have, buy a cheap mill-drill. Once you see what it's like to clamp your part in a solid vise and use X and Y cranks to move your part exactly under the spindle, you won't ever go back again. Plus, you can hold in a boring head with the drawbar.

And if you do want a traditional drill press, the Taiwanese good quality ones are fine machines. Buy a machine that has a removable chuck. Bring along a buddy who is a machinist, who has a mag stand with a dial test indicator, and indicate the inside of the spindle taper as you turn the spindle (by hand). If it isn't nearly perfect, walk.

On all drill presses, replace the chuck with a good quality one. I prefer Jacobs ball bearing keyed chucks, but the Albrecht and Rohm keyless work well too. Buying a top quality chuck will cost some do-re-mi but will seriously cut down on your drill runout.

There are lots of things that can be rebuilt on old drill presses. The hardest IMO is spline wear. When you're looking at a used DP, grab the spindle and rotate it sharply back and forth. If you hear looseness or a distinct slap, walk.

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Edited - this is an old thread, so I updated my photo links.

Walker Turner made excellent quality machines and are not hard to find. Right now I'm restoring a Walker Turner model 900 drill press from the late 1940s. I'm modernizing it a bit by adding a 3 phase 220v 3/4 hp motor and a VFD for 115v input conversion to 220v output and variable speed control.





In the meantime I rely on my 100+year old Champion Blower and Forge hnad crank drill. It does the job quite nicely.

 
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I just purchased a Rockwell Delta 15-017 off Craigslist for $150. Not the most robust of the vintage drill presses, but plenty enough for my use. Have patience and look on craigslist. Older ones ranging from $100-400 is what I'd pay depending on condition and brand. Some of the older craftsmans like above go for around $75-100 unrestored, from what I've seen locally.


I just did the same thing and restored mine. Paid $160 for it. Went from this.
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Nice! Mine needs restored. It appears yours is older than mine. Mine is roughly a 1973 model, different switch on the front and different Rockwell logo on the lid.
 

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Has anyone heard of a MAP drill press looks like a Chicago drill press just wondering if that's what they were can't find MAP anywhere?
 

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I see a local ad for a Walker Turner "Driver" line. This any good, and what sort of price is it worth?

I had one like that and got rid of it. Originally paid $80 for it, spend another $75 on bearings (it uses special extended race bearings), and ultimately sold it for $100. It never ran smooth at the highest speeds, and there was no table lift. The pulleys get worn, the quill gets worn, etc, and it just felt old.

I would pass on that W-T, and hold out for a vintage Delta or Atlas. They will run whisper quiet, and last forever.
 

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If y'all don't mind me tagging on to this thread........Any opinions on South Bend drill presses? This one is for sale, $350 down from $500.
 

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If y'all don't mind me tagging on to this thread........Any opinions on South Bend drill presses? This one is for sale, $350 down from $500.

I can't imagine paying $350 for any bench model drill press, and that one has only 4 speeds and missing the belt guard. For that kind of cash, it should have variable speed or something extra special.
 

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I would search craigslist. Mine is a benchtop model made by Duro Metal Products Co. I picked up for $60. Made in the late 40s-early 50s. I found it in working condition but I am going to restore it. I had a hiccup with a broken pulley but I can't go wrong for under $100 with a 1/2 HP motor 4 speeds. If you have time to find and restore a used one, you will save yourself a ton of cash and get a better drill press.

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There is also General, which has a 15" drill press that looks almost identical to the old Buffalo 15, and is made in Canada.

General shut down all Canadian manufacturing two years ago. Only General International is left and everything is imported now. I have a Canadian made General drill press and it is nice, but it also cost almost three times what an import would have cost.

General got bought by a holding company a few years ago and that is probably part of the reason why they stopped Canadian production.
 

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I hadn't noticed this thread is three years old.

I am getting a South Bend drill press soon from my employer. It seems to work just fine. The motor is 1/3 HP, but it is three phase. It will be easy enough to replace the motor.
 

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I hadn't noticed this thread is three years old.



I am getting a South Bend drill press soon from my employer. It seems to work just fine. The motor is 1/3 HP, but it is three phase. It will be easy enough to replace the motor.


Same here. I didn't realize it was that old until now. Good time to resurrect it. Motors are always available. My issue is the set screw for the pulley is stuck and I've broken 3 screwdrivers trying to loosen it because I want to take my motor apart and clean it out and paint it. Maybe the set screw is bent.


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Here is my 15 inch Clausing I restored. it is one smooth machine compared to the 2 previous China made ones I've had. I recently drilled numerous 1 inch holes in 1 inch plate, which some people have said cant be done. it did it easily in fact. I set the variable speed to the lowest speed (300) and drilled a smaller pilot holed and drilled away. Paul
 

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Gorgeous presses, guys!

As I read through this post, I laugh to myself. What happened to this country? Can't even buy a simple drill press made here. Feels like Cuba where you have to "restore" whatever you have to keep it going!
That being said, I will search the listings for a restorable press. My HF special is ok, but certainly has nothing compared to the above beauties.
 

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Here's my Buffallo #15.

Made at Canadian Blower & Forge, here in Kitchener, Ontario.
I bought it from a machine shop that was closing.
The drill press was used to make parts for Canadian Blower & Forge, who made Buffallo drill presses.

My Buffallo made Buffallo's :cool:.

Listed in the locals for $60, 3 years ago. :thumbup:
I did a complete rebuild, motor and all. Built a stand for it.
Runs smooth and quiet. Totally worth the time, effort.
Great bang for the buck.

I'm keeping my eye open for an older model to restore.


Used condition



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Restored

 
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