used motor oil

[double nickel]

Ok, I have always just had my oil changed but something just changed my mind. I have a 93 F150 beater truck with the 300 6 in it and The other day I started it and it was knocking so I shut it right off. I started it a couple of other times and it would do it and then stop, then sometimes seem not to do it at all. I was at my "real" parts store (complete with a one armed guy at the counter) and asked them what they thought. He asked what kind of filter I had on it and how many miles it had. I answered a fram and 147,000. He told that fram are now made in china and are of dubious quality. He said that I am getting a "dry" start and that is the number one main bearing slapping until the oil gets up there. He sold me 15 w 40 oil and a wix brand filter and it quieted right down.

My question is how do you guys get rid of the used oil, what type of pan would make it easier to dump it in the empty bottles, and where is the best deal on olil? I saw it at costco and am going to check out cost there. I want to start doing all my cars.

 

[UnSub45]

I dump all of my old oil into a 5 gal gas can. Once a year I drive over to where my town has a dumping container for used motor oil & filters. The empty quart containers are drained overnight and left out on my curb on recycle night.

 

[gotmud13613]

I take all my used oil to Advance auto parts in 5 gal pail. I am not sure but i think Autozone also does this.

 

[double nickel]

Thanks guys, where can I get a good drain pan that has some sort of spout on it so it doesn't dump oil all over when I fill the can?

 

[tweety652]

Thanks guys, where can I get a good drain pan that has some sort of spout on it so it doesn't dump oil all over when I fill the can?

I got mine at o'reilly's, advance and autozone also have them.

 

[SpiderGearsMan]

funny - we had oil drainback issues at GM in 94-96 , the temp fix was to use an anti drainback fram - now that fram is the only thing you can get at wal mart , stick with your OEM - ford gets motorcraft , GM gets AC , Dodge gets mopar , wix filters always used to be a higher quality

 

[JohnHenrys48]

I've used one with a built in catch pan like the first picture. Works pretty well for the average vehicle.

But since I bought my truck with a diesel and 15 quarts capacity I went to this open pan (second picture, it's 5 gallon capacity) and after draining I transfer the used oil into a 5 gallon container and take it to Autozone or Checker...

http://www.autozone.com/selectedZip...il/initialR,NONAPP1192/shopping/selectZip.htm

 

[Junkman]

I got a drain pan at one of the local auto parts stores that has a good spout and the pan itself it made of plastic. I put the oil into gallon containers, and drop it off at a local auto repair dealer that has a waste oil burner. He is happy to take all the oil that I have.

 

[Danglerb]

Back flow valves are junk in some filters, I use only Motorcraft on my Fords.

Walmart is where I got both of our drain pans, one big 16 qt that oil goes inside of and it has a nice spout, and one just a basin with a pouring lip. Many of the parts stores are oil drop locations, but I think in SoCal they keep the container, or if you want it back you may need to wait for it, so I use old milk gallon jugs.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Ok, I have always just had my oil changed but something just changed my mind. I have a 93 F150 beater truck with the 300 6 in it and The other day I started it and it was knocking so I shut it right off. I started it a couple of other times and it would do it and then stop, then sometimes seem not to do it at all. I was at my "real" parts store (complete with a one armed guy at the counter) and asked them what they thought. He asked what kind of filter I had on it and how many miles it had. I answered a fram and 147,000. He told that fram are now made in china and are of dubious quality. He said that I am getting a "dry" start and that is the number one main bearing slapping until the oil gets up there. He sold me 15 w 40 oil and a wix brand filter and it quieted right down.

My question is how do you guys get rid of the used oil, what type of pan would make it easier to dump it in the empty bottles, and where is the best deal on olil? I saw it at costco and am going to check out cost there. I want to start doing all my cars.

Fram has been a **** filter since day one, the only reason anyone uses them is they got their silly stickers plastered all over every race car they could reach for decades! I dump my oil down a little hole in the back yard just the way my pappy did for decades, works great! no muss, no fuss!

 

[crasher]

I dump my oil down a little hole in the back yard just the way my pappy did for decades, works great! no muss, no fuss!
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UB aka Uncle Buck

I remember a study by the EPA 2 or 3 years ago addressing the impact of people who do this. The upshot was that a single quart of waste motor oil dumped on the ground can contaminate up to 1 million gallons of well and ground water. If nothing else, at least look into it and draw your own conclusions after you see the facts.

 

[SpiderGearsMan]

well , it is ok if you don't give a F***

 

[Uncle Buck]

I remember a study by the EPA 2 or 3 years ago addressing the impact of people who do this. The upshot was that a single quart of waste motor oil dumped on the ground can contaminate up to 1 million gallons of well and ground water. If nothing else, at least look into it and draw your own conclusions after you see the facts.

well , it is ok if you don't give a F***

Ok, I better give it up & let you guys know I was jerkin yer chain. I figure I better set this right early or I will have everyone reachin for the flamethrowers! I do just like everyone else and take my 5 gallon containers to the parts house when it gets full. I was just havin a bit of fun, I couldn't pass on the opportunity.

 

[jimvannoy]

I have plastic 30 gallon barrels I dump mine in. When they are full I take them to the parts store or an oil change shop.

 

[ImportTuner]

I have plastic 30 gallon barrels I dump mine in. When they are full I take them to the parts store or an oil change shop.

30 gallons ... that's pretty damm heavy ...

 

[SpiderGearsMan]

got a buddy with his grandad's old gas station - right on a harbor , asked what he did with waste , he said ' don't know , never had to empty the tank '

 

[Franz©]

Well now that used oil on the ground trick has been known to stop a few mortgage foreclosures around here. Of course it's nothing compared to a few drops of mercury when it comes to screwin a subprime lendor.

 

[eschoendorff]

Autozone and Advance still take used oil (at least the stores in SE Michigan), but I have a local garage that takes it too. As for the filters, NAPA has a great sale on their gold (wix) filters. I stock up about once a year.

 

[Vicegrip]

I do 30 gallons at a time too. I have a good news bad news thing going. I have a shop with a lift and a 30 gall roll under oil catch. i also work for a Dealer and have a suction port on the oil drum. I put it into my P/U at the tailgate end and at work back right up to a recovery pump. Power pump the oil out and done. Thats the good news. The bad news is I have to do thins like 3 times a year bacaouse I have plenty of buddys with air cooled cars that hold 9 quarts.

Before I worked at the dealer I tried to take 20 gal to Advance and the assiastant to the night manager clerk boy told me NO. I was bringing too much. I told him I bought all the oil from them in the first place and that I would not purchase from them in the future.

 

[OctaneMotorsports]

Not FRAM! Anything but the orange can of death!

 

[Charles (in GA)]

Years ago, I used to use Fram. Then I started having problems with the oil draining out of them when the engine sat overnight. (200 inch Ford 6 and 302 V-8) I finally gave up on them altogether. If you compare the weight and feel of them vs any other filter you will see how crappy they really are. I use Wix, or Purolator, or Motorcraft, depending on the engine and oil. Purolator makes the Motocraft filter.

This is old now, several years, but still good insight into the differences in filters. Fram threatened this guy but the simple fact was, all he did was compare what he found when he cut the filters open. I'm sure you all have seen this, but I've never seen it mentioned on this board.

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

Charles

 

[Coach James]

I drain my oil into a bucket I got for $1 at Big Lots then pour it into laundry soap bottles or a 5 gallon jug I have. I take it to Auto Zone. They don't even look at me when I go in. I just take it to the back and pour it into their big oil tank.

Coach

 

[arkracing]

I prefer Wix Filters (or NAPA Gold is the same exact thing) Much better quality than Fram.

 

[Charles (in GA)]

Before I worked at the dealer I tried to take 20 gal to Advance and the assiastant to the night manager clerk boy told me NO. I was bringing too much. I told him I bought all the oil from them in the first place and that I would not purchase from them in the future.

Both the AutoZone and the Advance places here (South Atlanta) take oil, have tanks in the back to dump into and a log you have to fill out. They tell you up front however, only 4 gal a day max.

Charles

 

[kartracer55]

Fram filters are ****. A local Parts store I deal with has a display with a wix and a fram cut into a cross section and a little display explaining the advantages of wix. My dad swears by Purolator, but I recently turned him on to using Wix as well. At work we use Valvoline filters. These are not usually sold in stores (we buy them by the case) but they are excellent filters. Ive done hundreds of oil changes with these things and I have only seen one defective filter. They are made of a heavier canister than alot of other filters as well.

My top criteria is that the filter is at least backed by a quality name. Afterall, engines are not cheap

 

[May Pop]

Most every jiffy Lube in the Chicago area will take drain oil. They get about 90 cents a gallon for it.

 

[BartPeace]

If you heat your shop with wood, add a drip line from the oil storage to the firebox. Makes a hot fire, uses oil, saves wood. Control drip with a temp controled solenoid or needle valve.