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Used Pellet Stoves

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Would any of you guys buy a used pellet stove? Or, do you see this as a "high risk" endeavor that is not worth it?

I want a pellet stove to heat my 1500 or so sq. ft. two-story insulated barn. I think I paid some crazy amount like $3500 for the Quadra Fire Mt. Vernon that heats my home. This is not in my garage budget. I have seen a number of 2-5 year old pellet stoves on my local CL for $800 or so. That seems appealing, but I don't want to dump $800 down the drain, you know?

Looking for the advice of the experienced or, if not that, the wise.
 
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Check the history of the model at hearth.com. I would be reluctant to purchase a new pellet let alone a used pellet. I know they are great for some, but you have a fuel sensitive appliance that was used by someone who may or may not, well, you get it. Pellet stoves can be quite costly to repair with auger feeds and motors and PCB's. How beat isit.
 

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I would check it over well to the best of my knowledge you cant over fire them like a wood stove so they shouldnt crack or warp. Give it a test run to see it works right and stick with a brand that has local dealer so parts are easy to get.

Then again this is coming from a guy that heats half his house with a used wood stove that i bought on CL for $200 4 years ago.
 

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when i had my house i paid like 3800 for my quadrafire insert. Then sold it 3yrs later. I would look into a used one depending on age and maintence has been kept up.
 

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I don't know if you're a stickler for codes, but in MA and most everywhere else putting any solid fuel heating device in a garage is a no no.

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Thanks for the replies, guys.

I'm less concerned with codes than with actual safety. From what I have read on the net, which is worth what I paid for it, pellet stoves are allowed in some places or by some inspectors if the "garage" is a detached structure. My barn is not attached to my house. I also wonder how dangerous it would be to have one, if I put it on a platform 18" off the ground and pipe it so that it is drawing combustion air from outside?

I've even considered installing one on the second floor of the barn, where combustible vapors aren't an issue, and then trying to blow the heat down to the bottom level with a fan of some kind. This seems far less ideal, but it does eliminate that gas vapor fear.
 

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I would suggest that you look at a Rinnai ES38. 82%, modulating burner and fan, sealed combustion. You live in the biggest market in the country for Energysavers. There are close to 190,000 of them in New England. Built in programmable t-stat. Also, a feature of the stat is that it's standard range is 55-94f. There is a feature Rinnai added for those who do not want to maintain that min of 55. It is called the Frost timer and allows you to program a maintenance temp from 38* up. Best warranty in the business. 2yr labor, 5yr parts, 10yr HX.
Rinnai.us
 
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I also wonder how dangerous it would be to have one, if I put it on a platform 18" off the ground and pipe it so that it is drawing combustion air from outside?
Both are excellent ideas !

Any liquid combustibles can not get to a hot surface and most combustible vapors are heavier than air.

I've even considered installing one on the second floor of the barn, where combustible vapors aren't an issue, and then trying to blow the heat down to the bottom level with a fan of some kind. This seems far less ideal, but it does eliminate that gas vapor fear.
Hard to make heat go down !

You are better off buying a combustibles storage cabinet and using it religiously. Same thing about using combustibles near the stove but much less of an issue if you are using outside air for combustion. Some kind of fan to keep the air moving is a good idea.
 

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why not?

I heat over 15 years with pellet stoves. had some different models in the houses we lived in. from budget model to verry expensive top brands.
As long as you buy a brand where you can find parts for. there is no reason why you shouldn't
take a good look at the exhaust fan (give it a good clean)

Make sure you get the code to get into the advanced settings menu.

The chimney don't need to be stainles. a lot of fables by pellet stove story tellers.
it don't NEED to be stainles it don't NEED to be insulated. it will not effect the function of your stove. Most of the installers tell you the problem comes from the chimney, but they don't know how, and don't take the time to get the stove settings right.
settings are dfferent for every setup. your neighbour can have same stove model and same pellets. but his settings could be worthless in your stove.

I make my own pellets now with the ecoworxx pelletmaker. verry happy with it. keeps the garden clean and the house warm.

Also looking for a nice secondhand pellet stove for the barn.
 

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This video is about installation of a wood burning stove, and was done by a guy from Canada (eh ?) who run a small engine/outdoor equipment shop, so combustible liquids are always present.
 
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I would suggest that you look at a Rinnai ES38. 82%, modulating burner and fan, sealed combustion. You live in the biggest market in the country for Energysavers. There are close to 190,000 of them in New England. Built in programmable t-stat. Also, a feature of the stat is that it's standard range is 55-94f. There is a feature Rinnai added for those who do not want to maintain that min of 55. It is called the Frost timer and allows you to program a maintenance temp from 38* up. Best warranty in the business. 2yr labor, 5yr parts, 10yr HX.
Rinnai.us

I'll take a look at that unit. My dad is now retired, but he was a very good plumbing and HVAC business owner for about fifty years. He can help me install whatever I get. But, propane scares me a bit. I am also not sure how economical it is. Pellets are CHEAP. My folks heated their house with propane for years and it was extremely expensive. One other big concern is that I might or might not pull a permit for my heat install. I'd be far more uncomfortable with a unpermitted propane furnace than a pellet stove. Am I not thinking clearly here?


Both are excellent ideas !

Any liquid combustibles can not get to a hot surface and most combustible vapors are heavier than air.


Hard to make heat go down !

You are better off buying a combustibles storage cabinet and using it religiously. Same thing about using combustibles near the stove but much less of an issue if you are using outside air for combustion. Some kind of fan to keep the air moving is a good idea.

The cabinet is a good idea, probably should have one even if I don't have a stove out there. What if I want to paint something out there? If the stove is off the ground and piped for fresh combustion air, and I **** the stove down before painting, am I taking unnecessary risks with my safety?


why not?

I heat over 15 years with pellet stoves. had some different models in the houses we lived in. from budget model to verry expensive top brands.
As long as you buy a brand where you can find parts for. there is no reason why you shouldn't
take a good look at the exhaust fan (give it a good clean)

Make sure you get the code to get into the advanced settings menu.

The chimney don't need to be stainles. a lot of fables by pellet stove story tellers.
it don't NEED to be stainles it don't NEED to be insulated. it will not effect the function of your stove. Most of the installers tell you the problem comes from the chimney, but they don't know how, and don't take the time to get the stove settings right.
settings are dfferent for every setup. your neighbour can have same stove model and same pellets. but his settings could be worthless in your stove.

I make my own pellets now with the ecoworxx pelletmaker. verry happy with it. keeps the garden clean and the house warm.

Also looking for a nice secondhand pellet stove for the barn.

Pellet stoves are great, aren't they? I've only had the one in my house for one season, but I paid less for heat and was warmer last winter than at any time since moving in to this house in 1999. I am going to have t Google that pellet maker you mentioned; I'd love to make my own pellets!

The stove for my house doesn't even have a chimney, in the sense of a vertical pipe that goes up above the roof. It on;y required drilling something like a 3" hole through my house, and a short pipe sticks straight through that. The pipe has a wide mesh on the end to keep critters out. That's it.
 

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I bought a used Harmen Accentra insert for my house for $1500. New they are over $4K. Purchased a stainless chimney liner from the supply house for $225 and done. As far as safety....this thing has as many safetys as a standard house heater. I love my pellet stove and parts are not that expensive.
 

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I think with anything else it is buyer beware. Do the research on the model and go look at it. I ended up paying $400 for a used pellet stove/w chimney pipe and have never looked back. Ended up having to buy an ingitor not long after but that was cheap. Like you suggest, I did raise it off the floor a little and I pipe in external air for combustion purposes.

My garage is 40' x 40' with an upstiars loft that is 20' x 20'. At full tilt, it kept up with the coldest days and nights last winter although it was a fairly mild winter for Maryland. I have it hooked up to a thermostat on the other side of the garage and keep it set at 60 degrees and typically go through a bag a day.


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I think with anything else it is buyer beware. Do the research on the model and go look at it. I ended up paying $400 for a used pellet stove/w chimney pipe and have never looked back. Ended up having to buy an ingitor not long after but that was cheap. Like you suggest, I did raise it off the floor a little and I pipe in external air for combustion purposes.

My garage is 40' x 40' with an upstiars loft that is 20' x 20'. At full tilt, it kept up with the coldest days and nights last winter although it was a fairly mild winter for Maryland. I have it hooked up to a thermostat on the other side of the garage and keep it set at 60 degrees and typically go through a bag a day.

That's dirt-cheap for that kind of performance! What brand is it?
 
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