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That's a big heavy cord for a welder or anything portable. 10-3 is good for most welders and is a lot lighter. Generator would be a possibility if you have a 10KW generator
 

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How about an extension cord for a welder that takes #6 for its power cord?

That's a good app but by the time you buy the plug and receptacle to use it, it would have been better (less costly) to hardwire a new location in the wall, if you ask me.
 
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That's a good app but by the time you buy the plug and receptacle to use it, it would have been better (less costly) to hardwire a new location in the wall, if you ask me.

First, my welder is missing it's power cord. This is the correct upgrade size to use at it's max amps.

Second, I will have an outlet at the garage door. This will allow use out in the driveway.

Bill
 
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How big of a welder do you have? It takes a big welder to require a #6 cord. If you truly do need #6 then yes that would be a good use.
 

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Well there you go, you had the right plan the whole time. What are you asking us for?
 

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It will make a hell of an extension cord, and $50 is a very good price.
 

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Sell it on eBay by the foot. Although those in the know would want SOOW (more flexible especially in cold weather).

Nope. STOOW has a PVC jacket that gets brittle in the cold. SEOOW has an elastomer jacket. It is a thermoplastic like PVC, but actually is better in the cold than the rubber in SOOW, and is what winter cords are made from. The elastomer does get too soft in the heat though.
 
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It will make a hell of an extension cord, and $50 is a very good price.

Yes, I tried to dicker, but he had guys lined up behind me.

I do prefer to get the welder close to the work (Especially this one at 54#), rather than the work and electrode cables. Although I would like them to be 25 or 30' as well, maybe a little longer. What do you guys think? They are 1/0.

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Nope. STOOW has a PVC jacket that gets brittle in the cold. SEOOW has an elastomer jacket. It is a thermoplastic like PVC, but actually is better in the cold than the rubber in SOOW, and is what winter cords are made from. The elastomer does get too soft in the heat though.

I read up on that before I left the house.

Almost lost the deal, because I forgot to call him back at 3:30.

But thankfully he waited on my call. Just measured, and it's all of 75'.

I need to build a strong cart for that, the welder, welding cables and full size cylinder. HF cart won't do.

Bill
 
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Just picked up a free cylinder to use with the welder.

330CF

Real old. Last certified in 1975.

Can exchange it at Praxair and get a tank of Argon for $98 including the $30 certification charge.

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Carol is what I get from the electrical supply. :dunno:

Has more to do with insulation type and stranding than manufacturer. I'd have to look at some to see what it is.

Jacket/stranding aside, Take 3 cables from the supply house - which most supply houses may not carry Carol cord as it's a smigen more than let's say Republic SO cord.

The Carol by far is nicer than other cords....
 
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Jacket/stranding aside, Take 3 cables from the supply house - which most supply houses may not carry Carol cord as it's a smigen more than let's say Republic SO cord.

The Carol by far is nicer than other cords....

Are you saying any of three typically offered supply house cords would be good enough quality for a welding cable for electrode and work cables?

Bill
 

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I got a dozen pieces of lead, I don't know what brand they are and the machine can't tell them apart. Free bottle is good though.
 
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I have never really had any preference for a certain brand. At work we use 4/0 mostly with a few 3/0 in the mix. Make sure your connections are weld made and not cobbled together. I have seen 4/0 leads with 1/0 grounds, stingers, and quick connects and each connection has the larger copper wire strands trimmed down significantly to fit in the smaller connections. 1/0 leads should be perfect for your use.
 

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I use 6/4 for some of my portable dimmer packs used for stage lighting. Since I have them, I do use them for an extension cord for my arc welder.

In the shop I can use the same outlet to test my dimmer or use my arc welder.
 
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The next question is about the lugs needed to connect the wires in the SEOOW 6/4 cable to the machine.

Who makes good ones?

Is crimping without soldering the best way?

Type of lug and best crimper? Tin plated copper lug? Long barrel? Extra thick? How many crimps?

I will need to crimp other places too, and different sizes.

Bill
 
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May as well ask the next one.

This needs a 100A breaker, which I've already purchased.

What will the wiring be from the panel?

And will I hard wire the 6/4 cable to the outlet or find a plug for it?

Bill
 
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It can use 100 breaker. Can prolly run 5/32 lo hy nice and toasty on 60. It cost 15 for QO and 9 for HOM. Only got to run 60 percent. If it would run 50 then the circuit would be good for other machines.
 
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You really going to run it over 200a output? Seems unlikely for a hobbyist. I would just run a 50a breaker, with #6 to it.
 

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Tapcons or mansonary anchors. To the brick, not the mortar

I'd suggest anchoring to the mortar. Yes, the brick is (supposed to be) stronger. But if the mortar is in good enough shape to hold an anchor, it's easier to repair. And if the mortar is crumbling, it's time to repoint anyway.
 

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I'd suggest anchoring to the mortar. Yes, the brick is (supposed to be) stronger. But if the mortar is in good enough shape to hold an anchor, it's easier to repair. And if the mortar is crumbling, it's time to repoint anyway.

Either will probably work, but on something like and outlet that will be pushed and pulled on, i think i would go for the stronger option.
 
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