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Using regular car battery as booster

seagull369

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Do those portable boost packs thingees, like the HF one pictured below, have higher voltage outputs compared to your garden variety lead calcium automotive battery? I've been using the latter to jump start vehicles, but been wondering if I've been missing out on a little extra oomph by not using the former.
 

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Nope, just a relatively small SLA 12v battery. Most of them are approximately motorcycle battery sized. A fully sized car battery and some good cable should actually work better, Just not as convenient from a charging and portability standpoint
 
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Over the years I always seem to have had at least 1 or 2 extra auto batteries laying around, so never could bring myself to buy one of those other guys. Good to know I haven't been missing out on anything :thumbup:

Thanks very much for the info.
 

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Lead calcium?

calcium is added to lead plates to reduce the self-discharge. There's lots of other stuff, too. Antimony is added to increase deep-cycle capacity. Other things are added to reduce the amount of Ca and Sb added, like tin, arsenic, selenium and cadmium. Control over plate chemistry is the big difference between good lead-acid batteries and not-so-good ones. It's also the difference between a battery suitable for deep-cycle or SLA use.

In my experience, the big advantage of jump packs are ease of use, storage, and charging. You can throw one in the back seat or back of the truck, and it will be fine. Hard to throw a car battery, and you do have to be more careful with them. Capacity is not as good, of course, but most of the time, it's not a real problem, you are jumping a car becuase the battery is dead or bad, not because of a mechanical problem. If you regularly need to start big diesels with dead glow plugs, you need something else.
 
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My Power Vamp jump pack actually has a USA made AGM battery, I guess this is so it can withstand the abuse of roadside work, the spec of the battery is surprisingly low 330a/28ah

It works well, we have a lot of small Diesels in the UK and it copes no problem
 

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Before jump packs became popular every shop I ever worked at had 2 or three hand truck dollies with a good size light truck battery ratchet strapped to it with jumper cables permanently bolted to the terminals and a dune buggy flag zip tied to the frame so it could be seen from a distance. Charge it from time to time and it works excellent.
 
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calcium is added to lead plates to reduce the self-discharge

It's my understanding also that lead/calcium is mainly used because it doesn't use much actual water and therefore doesn't require any real maintenance from the user (aka "maintenance free"). One drawback to this type (among others) is a reduced calendar life compared to some other lead acid designs.
 
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