That's pretty much it, you can take it to the work (instead of the other way around). Some projects are simply too big or bulky to get indoors to a drill press, and a mag drill is a lot more portable than a drill press. Plus, if you've ever tried drilling 1/2" or larger holes in steel with a hand drill, you know how frustrating it can be....and time consuming. It's almost impossible to get the right amount of pressure with a hand drill, but you can with the mag drill.
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That's pretty much it, you can take it to the work (instead of the other way around). Some projects are simply too big or bulky to get indoors to a drill press, and a mag drill is a lot more portable than a drill press. Plus, if you've ever tried drilling 1/2" or larger holes in steel with a hand drill, you know how frustrating it can be....and time consuming. It's almost impossible to get the right amount of pressure with a hand drill, but you can with the mag drill.
richeyc2000
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Picked one up myself only a few months ago. What have i been doing all these years drilling without one. Best piece of kit I ever got. She's 2002 but has a seriously strong motor still. It will see my needs for years to come. Got it for my table build that I'll get together soon. 
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chris_1001
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Neato! I've only seen drills like that in bank robbery videos
LOL, I was going to add that at that price you wont need to rob a bank...
Picked one up myself only a few months ago. What have i been doing all these years drilling without one. Best piece of kit I ever got. She's 2002 but has a seriously strong motor still. It will see my needs for years to come. Got it for my table build that I'll get together soon.
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Looks like your drill would be a lot lighter than mine, what model do you have? I'm not familiar with the Puma name...
Maui
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The base and drill combined retail for over $2000.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...-Electromagnetic-Drill-Press-4262-1/203168534
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http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...-Electromagnetic-Drill-Press-4262-1/203168534
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Yeah, I always assumed the Milwaukee mag drills went for around $1000-1200. I looked into the Hougen drills after I picked up a few of their annular cutters, and you can get them for around $800 or so. When I saw the one I snagged in the shop, I figured it would be at least $1k new to buy. It didn't have a price on it, and I assumed they would likely be asking between $6-700. My cut off point was $500, and had decided before even asking that I would buy if it were any less. When I stated $475, I couldn't have been any happier...$400 in cash later I was loading it up outside. I didn't find out later that this particular model was one of Milwaukee's most expensive, so I definitely got an excellent deal.
I just cant wait to get it home and start drilling a few holes.
I just cant wait to get it home and start drilling a few holes.
Ok, I'll bite.
On an item like this, the pawn shop transmits the model, serial #, and description of the item to the local police, and they get a certain amount of time to review before the item can be sold.
The reality is a pawn shop is the last place a thief goes to get cash. CL, facebook seller groups etc are far more likely.
That may have been true decades ago, and there are always bad apples, but it just doesn't add up.
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richeyc2000
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It's a Rotabroach Puma model, British made. It only goes up to 30mm diameter cutters. It's a baby compared to yours but it will serve my needs for a good while.
I'm in Ireland and extremely jealous of all the deals and price of the tools ye come by.
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PugetDude
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It's the cycle of life here- crackheads, dishonest pawnbrokers, lack of law enforcement, and people posting their great pawnshop deals on GJ so the crackheads know where to steal it again.
richeyc2000
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It's the cycle of life here- crackheads, dishonest pawnbrokers, lack of law enforcement, and people posting their great pawnshop deals on GJ so the crackheads know where to steal it again.
I wasn't really commenting on Pawnshop deals as I don't know anything about the U.S. System. Mainly on the price of tools in general and garage sales etc where people pick up all kinds of sweet deals. We have a websites like CL but prices for any second hand stuff is still crazy compared to US prices and most of the second hand stuff is well spun at that stage.
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Mohawk Dave
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What state do you live in? I'm in CA. I'm a Field Claims Adjuster. Handled plenty of thefts. I've never been involved with a claim where this has happened.
I have, however, handled many theft claims where the items were recovered from a pawn shop....by the insured driving to each and every one looking for their stuff: recommended to them by the PD.
That being said, I'll stop in a Pawn Shop IF I'm already in the parking lot...but out here in SoCal these fawkers think it's ebay max price in person.
I shop at yard sales and swap meets and CL, and in reality, any of it can be stolen. I buy honestly and with the best of intentions. Now, if a tweaker runs up at 1:33am with a plasma cutter while I'm getting late night tacos, I tell him to kick rocks.
Oh yea, OP. AWESOME FIND! I love my Hougen!
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sgs236
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In West Virginia Pawn Shops are required to:
(f) Every pawnbroker shall keep at his place of business an accurate and legible record recorded in ink or other permanent recordation method, of each transaction made in the course of his or her business. The record shall be made at the time of the transaction and shall include:
(1) A description of the make, manufacturer, model, model number, size, shape, serial number, year of manufacture of the property received.
(2) The time, date and place of the transaction;
(3) A transaction number for each individual piece of property received;
(4) The full name, residence address, and home telephone number of the person or persons pledging, together with a personal description, including the height, weight, date of birth, social security number, hair, and eye color, and any other identifying marks, of such person or persons;
(5) A record of the verification of the identity of the pledgor shall be kept. This verification shall be made by the exhibition of a state-issued identification card, driver's license or federal passport other government-issued photo identification card. The record shall contain the type of identification exhibited, the issuing agency, and the number thereon. Such card shall be examined by the pawnbroker, and an appropriate record retained thereof;
(6) In addition to the information required in subdivision (1) of this subsection, a description of firearms shall include in their description the color, caliber, and size.
Plus:
Every pawnbroker shall each day prepare a report in a form prescribed by the superintendent of all transactions conducted by the pawnbroker that day. The pawnbroker shall file such report within seventy-two hours of a request by a law enforcement officer of this state, county, city, or town where his business is conducted as prescribed by the superintendent: Provided, That merchandise bought on invoice from a manufacturer or wholesaler with an established place of business is exempt from this reporting requirement.
The report shall include:
(1) The name, address, and telephone number of the pawnshop;
(2) All information required by subdivisions (1), (2),(3) and (6) in subsection (f) of section three of this article.
(3) The pawn transaction number and the time and date of the purchase or pledge of property.
Finally got the mag drill home today. Set it up on my smaller welding table, a 2x4' piece of 1/2" plate, and started off drilling through a smaller piece of 1/2" plate. Well, I wanted to drill with it, until I went to chuck in a drill bit and realized how big the chuck is. This thing is absolutely enormous, and I don't have a chuck key big enough to tighten a bit in place. Now I have to find a bigger key!
dr_clyde
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If it's a Jacobs brand chuck, there should be a model number on the side. Take that and go on McMaster and match it up with a key. Or any industrial supply really. I believe it is a K4 that fits a 3/4" chuck.
Mohawk Dave
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Get a cheap one in the meantime if you must. but once you determine that it is a number four which I'm sure it is get yourself a real Jacobs one. they are much better and better tolerances. & a lot harder steel. ask me how I know
dr_clyde
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Yes the Jacobs ball bearing super chuck is IMO the best keyed drill chuck available. Well worth the dough
Ok, I'm a little confused. The chuck is marked "F19KD 3JT", but I haven't been able to find a specific model number for a correct key. Tractor Supply and Lowes did not have one, so I may have to try Fastenal. I would prefer ordering, as I am sure it will be cheaper, and I was able to borrow one until I find my own.
great white tj
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Call these people on Monday... Tool Doctor, Ocala Fl. (800) 829-5655 or (352) 622-5655 give them all the info you have on your drill. I am sure they can help you..
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warmpancakes
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In a perfect world things work like that buddy just bought his bike back from the pawn shop, has a made for tag on the side right below one of the 4 serial numbers on the bike
the mag drill is stolen, that is the equipment only a business would buy, not a welder or mechanic.
BUT, if the business didnt keep serious numbers or reported it, its his lost
think about it like this, if you didnt buy it somebody else would, as long as you have the reciept, and keep the reciept forever. then lucky you
BUT, if the business didnt keep serious numbers or reported it, its his lost
think about it like this, if you didnt buy it somebody else would, as long as you have the reciept, and keep the reciept forever. then lucky you
TTLLOGIC
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I'm a forklift mechanic and own my own Mag Drill. Just Saying.
Mohawk Dave
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I own 3. Know a lot of welders that own them.
I thought/hoped that comment was a poor jest.
I thought/hoped that comment was a poor jest.
Tried the Hougen annular cutters, and wasn't all that successful. I am not sure if its simply the lack of a center pin, but the cutter would "grab" and jerk the drill when trying to apply feed pressure. I also tried it in the drill press, and it did pretty much the same thing. I've ordered a pilot for the cutters, so hopefully it will remedy my issue.
The pawn shops and used tool shops up here provide a weekly distribution sheet of all sales to the State Police.
I still have a video of one of the local burglars selling a stolen Milwaukee drill with very distinctive marks on it to a tool sales shop thirty miles away.
The video helped place him in a state facility for 9 years.
I still have a video of one of the local burglars selling a stolen Milwaukee drill with very distinctive marks on it to a tool sales shop thirty miles away.
The video helped place him in a state facility for 9 years.
My Hougen pilot for the annular cutters arrived today, so I will give it a try tomorrow. I am not sure how the adapter is supposed to be set up for the pilot, so I will need to do a little research tonight. The part I am not sure about is how much up travel the pilot has inside the adapter, so maybe I can find a Youtube video. Hopefully it will solve my issue, fingers crossed!