Value for vintage Snap On box?

[Burgerkong]

I made an offer of $150, and he accepted, then told me the lock was broken, so I am probably going to haggle it for around $100, is this an OK price?

Thanks!

 

[balane]

IMHO $150 is a good price for it... but for $100 you will get a You ****! Good luck with the purchase, that's a cool old box.

 

[sevnd3z28]

$150 for that box down my way is a great price, broken lock or not! If you can get it for less you're stealing it....nice score!

 

[bobcatdan]

That is superchest 33" wide. Those are rare and that is old. Buy it buy it buy it!

 

[crewchief888]

i wouldnt be opposed to paying $150 even with the broken lock.

looks to be in excellent condition

 

[bobemmerich]

Me either! Go for it. 150 is a deal.

 

[Burgerkong]

Settled then, will show up with $150, see what happens, hopefully meeting him on Friday. Do you think I should take public transit with it or no? Approximate weight?

 

[nine4gmc]

I dont think you should wait til friday, thats a good price and wont last long.

 

[Burgerkong]

Oh ****, I thought I typed in Monday, sorry. Tomorrow I meant.

 

[Burgerkong]

Is this a KR-61 Superchest?

 

[Stuart in MN]

If you already agreed on $150, I think you should stick with that number...haggling after a value has been agreed on is bad form.

 

[Burgerkong]

If you already agreed on $150, I think you should stick with that number...haggling after a value has been agreed on is bad form.

It's only because I didn't know the lock was non operational because he made no mention of that in the ad nor in the first email, that's all. Sorry if that doesn't jive right.

 

[j.c.whitney]

That is a heavy pooch and looks to be in good shape, $150 is a good buy.

 

[Burgerkong]

Sigh, means I will have to drive over there, oh well. Hopefully the dark spots on the box is just oil/dirt and not rust. These are friction slides right?

 

[Toolhorder]

I have a similar box but it's a little smaller. Paid like $25 for it at the flea. It's rough though. Same badge and had some drill bits in it so I think I got a decent deal. I'll post pictures if you guys want to see it. The drawers had a lot of oil in them for some reason then I left it out in the rain for a couple days. lol I want to tear it apart and bead blaster and paint it.

 

[Burgerkong]

Just came back














With this!

Found out they had to drill the lock because it was full of tools and the key was lost. Drilled a tad bit deep and the bit walked across the metal, but not too deep. The slides slide GREAT, not bad for 60 something years. Have not taken the drawers out yet to confirm model, still think its a KR-61. Overall, pretty good condition, a bit of worn paint at the hinge areas and on the bottom, minimal surface rust.

Did I mention it was HEAVY?

The price? $130.

Now I just need to find a new lock and install it, where should I go about this? SO's website?

Brendan

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

I wouldn't even worry about the lock.

 

[Chipmunk]

If that box were mine and you offered me $100.00, the only thing you would have left with is my boot up your ***.

 

[Burgerkong]

OK. The guy said best offer, I was going in with $150 anyways, just wanted to see if dealing face to face would give me a different price vs emailing back and forth. As far as I know, I didn't commit any sins. The guy asked for offers, I gave him one, met him in person and hammered out a deal, I didn't cheat him out of anything. If you looked at my recent posts, you'd see we agreed on $130...

 

[Link-Belt]

You did good Bro. Here is a great big you ****.

 

[dandan111]

Take that lock off and go see a lock smith. Great find and well bought!

 

[Chipmunk]

OK. The guy said best offer, I was going in with $150 anyways, just wanted to see if dealing face to face would give me a different price vs emailing back and forth. As far as I know, I didn't commit any sins. The guy asked for offers, I gave him one, met him in person and hammered out a deal, I didn't cheat him out of anything. If you looked at my recent posts, you'd see we agreed on $130...

I’m not saying you cheated him. I just hate lowballers. As an example eight years ago we bought a new house. One of the walls was glass from floor to ceiling. Made from nine foot by nine foot windows.

When I looked in the garage there was an extra window leaning against the wall. So I called the builder to ask him about the extra window. He told me that when it got to thirty degrees below zero a small (dime size) spot of condensation appeared in the very middle of the window, so the window company sent a replacement. It was mine to keep. I didn’t want it, it was just in the way. So I put an ad on the radio trading post selling it for forty dollars. (by the way the window sold for twenty six hundred dollars)

Within minutes a guy calls me and says he wants the window to put in a new garage he was building at his cabin. Later that day he shows up with his wife and her brother to load the window. He want’s me to help load the window and I tell him I will after he pays me.

This is what this ******* says, (keep in mind he is getting a $2,600.00 window for $40.00)…”Would you take twenty?”…I went ballistic. I told him it’s a ******* gift at $40.00 and it would still be a gift at $500.00. Then he said “OK OK $40.00”
I said NO, you can take your ugly wife and your scabby Toyota pickup and get the **** off my property before I shoot you” He left and did not look back. I took the window to the dump, paid five bucks to dump it then smashed it with a brick.

What I’m getting at is that there is no amount cheap enough for some people. Some people would screw a widow out of her husband Snap-On tool box for five dollars then come here a brag about what an astute business man he is. Fairness never enters the mind of some people, it’s all money money money and any connivance to get more, always at someone else’s expense.

 

[Burgerkong]

I honestly didn't know what a fair amount was seeing as all I see in my area is people wanting thousands and thousands for anything with Snap-On on it. I just threw a number to him and fully expected it to be declined (I only had that much to spend on tools this month). That was what I was could pay at the moment. Looking back at other GJ'ers posts, I could see that this was far from a steal, hell people have gotten better stuff for half the price. Since I knew I needed a lock, I asked him nicely if he'd budge on the price. Because he didn't disclose that the lock was drilled though and inoperational, he reduced the price to $130. I assume he thought that was fair and we shook hands.

Again, it was never my intention to look like I was lowballing him, I didn't know what it was worth and to reiterate, I expected my offer would be declined.

Brendan

 

[Burgerkong]

Even better pictures:

Some scratches on the lid and dull/faded paint, nothing some wax won't fix.

Slides are in great condition, the middle small drawer seems a bit hard to open, will take off all the drawers and slides tomorrow and see what I am up against.

Pictures of the bottom:

No rust! Paint is coming off at the high wear areas, but condition is astoundingly good for a 57 year old box. No rust on the bottom which is amazing enough, then I peeled back the liners and vacuumed it some, which were quite dirty to find this:

ORIGINAL PAINT!!!!! Can't wait to degrease and clean it up, and finally a layer of wax

Brendan

 

[91FE]

I’m not saying you cheated him. I just hate lowballers...This is what this ******* says, (keep in mind he is getting a $2,600.00 window for $40.00)…”Would you take twenty?”…I went ballistic. I told him it’s a ******* gift at $40.00 and it would still be a gift at $500.00. Then he said “OK OK $40.00”

I would have told you to shove your window up your ***, but that's just me. The potential buyer did nothing wrong in your story. You're not a haggler, and that's fine... just stick to stores and pay retail. Items bought and sold through classifieds and craigslist are done so through agreement and compromise. If your price is firm, say so. Otherwise, there's absolutely no reason to get offended when someone wants to 'deal' with you... it's just part of the game. Only the meek pay asking price, everybody else understands how the system works.

 

[Chipmunk]

I would have told you to shove your window up your ***, but that's just me. The potential buyer did nothing wrong in your story. You're not a haggler, and that's fine... just stick to stores and pay retail. Items bought and sold through classifieds and craigslist are done so through agreement and compromise. If your price is firm, say so. Otherwise, there's absolutely no reason to get offended when someone wants to 'deal' with you... it's just part of the game. Only the meek pay asking price, everybody else understands how the system works.

This jerk agreed to $40.00 on the first phone call, but even if he hadn’t how much fairer could I have been?

This turd wanted to load the window then offer me less, that was his game all along. It’s like I said before how low do you have to go before it’s low enough for some cheap *** to be satisfied.

 

[Laro13]

Wow, I am so jealous of your toolbox!

I'm looking for some time now, for an old toolbox to restore. But over here in The Netherlands(Europe) it's slim pickings. There's a lot of Chinese **** for sale!!!

A while back there was a nice old SO box for sale, but somebody was overbidding me with 5 Euro increments, until it was out of my budget.

So enjoy your nice toolbox!

 

[Souljer]

Hi,

"How low"?
In some cases even free is not low enough.

I agree with you that he was trying to get you to help load the window and then offer less. Some people are interested in getting deals and don't really care if it's at someone else' expense. That's how they are brought up; insecure and needy.

However I think it's foolish to get upset and smash the window. Pointless and a missed opportunity. Getting angry with someone like that is also useless since it's really got nothing to do with you. He was like that before you met and is probably still like that. He probably tells the same story while laughing with his buddies about the day he almost got shot because he haggled too low and hurt someone's feelings.
"He even insulted my wife! It's okay though, I've heard it before. Our father used to say the same thing..."

I make stuff and one time this guy wanted to buy a leather case I designed and had made. I was only asking $40. He wanted it for less, but that really was my bottom line. It was simply not worth selling for less as that is more of a loss of time and energy that I was not willing to do.

He keeps asking me to lower the price. So I finally start telling him,
"You want a discount? How about 50% off? This one will be $80. but I'll give it to you for 50% off. Hell I can do better than that. It's $100. and I'll knock off 60%! Now only $40. How does that sound?"
He started complaining but eventually bought the piece for $40. In similar cases I often start raising the price from what I thought was a fair starting point. I'm fine with a little haggling; It's the end of a show, people have spent most of their money, $10. short, etc. but half off? Well that's costing me time and time is money. Add 10%... etc.

When someone haggles with your price that is opening the door to changing the price. However you are under no obligation to lower the price, it's just assumed you will.
You should have simply raised the price to $500. and then add another $50. for every protest. He either would have left or bought the thing for ~$650. Who knows?

Another possible choice and solution for next time... besides reaching for your sidearm.

 

[Chipmunk]

I agree that smashing the window was foolish and perhaps even childish. But, I'll tell you this....it made me feel a million times better to know that cheap son of a ***** wasn't ever going to get his greedy mitts on that window at any price. If I'm at a yard sale and the price of something I want is too high, I'll bargain. But if the price is fair, I just buy it at the asking price.

 

[Burgerkong]

Disassembled and doused liberally with Simple Green/water, must've diluted it too much, will use 1:1 next time or even the concentrate, as I couldn't get all of the grease off. I left the drawer slides to soak in a pan of the stuff for a few hours before scrubbing all the grease away, still looks factory fresh, even the bluing on the springs is intact. Will try to degrease the rails on the box with WD40 tomorrow and give it another wipe down. So far, put in 5 hours. Whoever came up with the genius idea to use tin ducting for drawer removal is a genius, took a few minutes of practice before the drawers were flying off.

Overall, cleaned up pretty well, a tad bit of rust on the bottom, will probably ignore it or maybe get some paste wax for it. Still need to wax it and restore the faded paint on the top. I couldn't get the black spray off from inside the box, wondering if it's from an incomplete paint job or overspray?

Tip of the day, never EVER grease friction slides. It makes them slide with ease but **** gets embedded in the slides, and when grease gets old, takes forever to clean arrg.

Yum, toxic soup.

I am sick of the Simple Green smell, ugh.

 

[Burgerkong]

Think I also need a parts washer, scrubbing on the driveway took forever.

 

[MrMark]

beautiful box. keep working at it and posting pics.

 

[FunkyfullWidth]

That's a great score. It's in good enough shape I would just clean the hell out of it, and use it as is. Any idea what your going to put in it? I try to keep old tools in my old tool boxes, usually not complete sets, but just mismatched sockets and wrenches..

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

I’m not saying you cheated him. I just hate lowballers. As an example eight years ago we bought a new house. One of the walls was glass from floor to ceiling. Made from nine foot by nine foot windows.

When I looked in the garage there was an extra window leaning against the wall. So I called the builder to ask him about the extra window. He told me that when it got to thirty degrees below zero a small (dime size) spot of condensation appeared in the very middle of the window, so the window company sent a replacement. It was mine to keep. I didn’t want it, it was just in the way. So I put an ad on the radio trading post selling it for forty dollars. (by the way the window sold for twenty six hundred dollars)

Within minutes a guy calls me and says he wants the window to put in a new garage he was building at his cabin. Later that day he shows up with his wife and her brother to load the window. He want’s me to help load the window and I tell him I will after he pays me.

This is what this ******* says, (keep in mind he is getting a $2,600.00 window for $40.00)…”Would you take twenty?”…I went ballistic. I told him it’s a ******* gift at $40.00 and it would still be a gift at $500.00. Then he said “OK OK $40.00”
I said NO, you can take your ugly wife and your scabby Toyota pickup and get the **** off my property before I shoot you” He left and did not look back. I took the window to the dump, paid five bucks to dump it then smashed it with a brick.

Everyone has a different definition of what a "lowballer" is. Some people think a lowballer is anyone who doesn't agree to pay the asking price of the seller, which is laughable. It's bullsh/t anyway...if you don't like what someone offers you, tell them no and what you'll take. Pretty simple actually...leave the emotion out of it. You're probably one of those guys who puts "make an offer" on some of the stuff you sell, then get all pissed off when the offer isn't what you want. Those are my favorite.

It's all about negotiation. If your feelings get hurt from that, then grow the f/k up. That's the issue with people who ***** about lowballers. It's an offer, nothing more, nothing less. The only thing I can sympathize with in your post was that you did agree to a price on the phone and he asked if you'd take less when he got to your place, which is b/s. I would've stuck to the original price, and required an extra $10 to help him load it...if I could afford to wait for someone else to come buy it. If not, I would've told him I had to get the $40 and if he wanted it, that's the price. That's what I always tell someone who offers me less than the minimum price I need to get for something...I have to get $XXXX for it. I usually put my selling price a little above my minimum price...so I can drop a little but not too much.

Bottome line is, he was all set to pay you what you wanted for it and you told him no, you lost out on the $40 and an additional $5 b/c you're immature, unstable, and must be a real ***** to deal with. You have to have a real hair trigger temper to act the way you did...like you were just looking for a confrontation. Sounds like a losing proposition all around. But hey, that's just my $0.02

 

[Burgerkong]

That's a great score. It's in good enough shape I would just clean the hell out of it, and use it as is. Any idea what your going to put in it? I try to keep old tools in my old tool boxes, usually not complete sets, but just mismatched sockets and wrenches..

This is my only box right now, so I plan on migrating my stuff over from Plano boxes haha. I am planning on putting in some cork liners, would look better than black rubber IMO and make it stand out a bit more.

 

[Chipmunk]

Everyone has a different definition of what a "lowballer" is. Some people think a lowballer is anyone who doesn't agree to pay the asking price of the seller, which is laughable. It's bullsh/t anyway...if you don't like what someone offers you, tell them no and what you'll take. Pretty simple actually...leave the emotion out of it. You're probably one of those guys who puts "make an offer" on some of the stuff you sell, then get all pissed off when the offer isn't what you want. Those are my favorite.

It's all about negotiation. If your feelings get hurt from that, then grow the f/k up. That's the issue with people who ***** about lowballers. It's an offer, nothing more, nothing less. The only thing I can sympathize with in your post was that you did agree to a price on the phone and he asked if you'd take less when he got to your place, which is b/s. I would've stuck to the original price, and required an extra $10 to help him load it...if I could afford to wait for someone else to come buy it. If not, I would've told him I had to get the $40 and if he wanted it, that's the price. That's what I always tell someone who offers me less than the minimum price I need to get for something...I have to get $XXXX for it. I usually put my selling price a little above my minimum price...so I can drop a little but not too much.

Bottome line is, he was all set to pay you what you wanted for it and you told him no, you lost out on the $40 and an additional $5 b/c you're immature, unstable, and must be a real ***** to deal with. You have to have a real hair trigger temper to act the way you did...like you were just looking for a confrontation. Sounds like a losing proposition all around. But hey, that's just my $0.02

Let’s see….I offer to sell a $2600.00 window for $40.00 and I’m the *****? See what I mean about cheap lowballers? The ******* shipping on the window was more than $40.00, but I’m the *****. No, I'm not the *****, you're the ***** for defending that cheap *******. (pea's in a pod) Always looking for another to validate your own bad behaviour. Just where does "Value" for the dollar come into the mind of a cheap lowballer?

 

[biscuit141]

I just went though this with a Waterloo box. Based on recommendations from GJ I used an aerosol based wax lubricant. To early to tell how it will hold up, but on my last box I used white lithium grease and while it slides great there is some dust and dirt in the slides already. Here is what I used.
http://www.lowes.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&productId=1059839

I just washed mine really good with a mix of water and "Mean Green" degreaser. Cleaned up nicely. Used my air hose to get most of the water off and let the rest air dry. Soaked my slides in kerosene for a couple days and they came out nice and clean. I did not wax it as I was running out of patience and wanted to use it, but I did wipe all exterior surfaces off with "Meguires Quick Detailer" to shine it up a bit. Still working on cutting new drawer liners to size. For those I went with Harbor Freight solid drawer liner. has worked well for me in the past.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

Let’s see….I offer to sell a $2600.00 window for $40.00 and I’m the *****? See what I mean about cheap lowballers? The ******* shipping on the window was more than $40.00, but I’m the *****. No, I'm not the *****, you're the ***** for defending that cheap *******. (pea's in a pod) Always looking for another to validate your own bad behaviour. Just where does "Value" for the dollar come into the mind of a cheap lowballer?

Not that I needed you to, but thanks for validating my point.

You really need anger management, pal.

 

[Burgerkong]

I just went though this with a Waterloo box. Based on recommendations from GJ I used an aerosol based wax lubricant. To early to tell how it will hold up, but on my last box I used white lithium grease and while it slides great there is some dust and dirt in the slides already. Here is what I used.
http://www.lowes.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&productId=1059839

I just washed mine really good with a mix of water and "Mean Green" degreaser. Cleaned up nicely. Used my air hose to get most of the water off and let the rest air dry. Soaked my slides in kerosene for a couple days and they came out nice and clean. I did not wax it as I was running out of patience and wanted to use it, but I did wipe all exterior surfaces off with "Meguires Quick Detailer" to shine it up a bit. Still working on cutting new drawer liners to size. For those I went with Harbor Freight solid drawer liner. has worked well for me in the past.

Yeah, I let it bake in the sun yesterday and air out overnight, Will be blowing the water out today. The slides are nice and clean now, Read about the lubricating friction slides thread, will try and find some wax lubricant, if not I have some candle wax I can substitute for now.

Reason I wanted to go with cork was because once rubber drawer liners gets old they loose their pliability and the plasticizer that's used to make it soft leaks out and makes a large sticky mess inside the box.

 

[Nelson58]

$100 is a great deal. I don't even use the lock on my Kennedy's.

You can always get a lock.


Nelson