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Renegade1LI

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One thing I hate about having a house upstate, everything gets dirty. Thinking of adding a wash bay, maybe start with a portable shelter and gravel. I would like to add a chassis wash and hard piping in a hw pressure washer. Temp heat from a diesel heater and mount some gable end fans. I would love to have a dedicated cleaning and detailing bay for year round use. Anyone have one? Have some good ideas? Pics?
 
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Jeepster04

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I don't have one but someday I will. If you enjoy taking care of your vehicles then its the only way.
 

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To get back on track: I don't have wash bay but have cobbled together under chassis spray out of pvc with drilled holes. use for salt. Lot of salted roads this time of year. No pics though.
 

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I knew this thread was about NY before I even opened it. I don't think any other state uses the reference "upstate." Stewart's Shops are found in the Hudson Valley.
As for your wash bay, I have no ideas for you.
 

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Where is all the wash water going?

Seems like a lot of work to avoid a car wash every few weeks
Remember the days of seeing Firefighters washing the trucks on the apron? Not in many states anymore, a dedicated wash bay had to be installed to handle the run-off.
 

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My guess is if you actually put in a stationary wash bay, you will need to also have a water reclaim system, and most likely have to pay someone to come and empty the tank regularly. I don't see such a thing being a very economical solution to keeping your car clean. If it were me, I would purchase a hot water power washing system and the available attachments that are designed for vehicle and chassis washing. Lots of nice tools that hook right up to a power washer to make washing a vehicle an easy job. Since it is just a "power washer" and not a permanent wash bay, you probably wouldn't have to worry about your runoff. I have a 7gpm diesel fired hot power washer that works great for this very thing. The burner only kicks on when I squeeze the trigger and provides instant hot water all the way to steam.
 

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Where is all the wash water going?

Seems like a lot of work to avoid a car wash every few weeks in the winter
Problem with (most) car washes is they use the recycled water for the undercarriage wash. I was religious about washing after every snow event and accelerated the frame rot on my Tundra that way.
 
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The plan at the moment is to set this up on a gravel bed, probably 6 - 8" of 1 1/2" stone then topped with 6" of 3/4" stone. This should handle the runoff, my bigger concern is cleaning muddy stuff, tractor, atvs and fouling the gravel. May go concrete slab with a catch basin and pipe to a gravel pit. That's why I was curious what anyone else had built.
 
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Ah well, going off track for just another minute. I've heard it said that "upstate" is everything but NYC and Long Island. Some would argue that it starts at Yonkers, others would say that it starts at Peekskill.
Living near the south shore of Lake Ontario, I chuckle when Poughkeepsie and Beacon are described as "Upstate".
The state is NYC centric. Buffalo is somewhere near Iowa and Malone is near Hudson's Bay. LOL
 

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It's like when you're out in another state and someone asks where you're from. If you say New York, they reply "Oh, you live in New York City." When I was in Viet Nam and someone would ask me where I'm from, I'd say Illinois. "Oh, you live in Chicago." No, I'm a hundred miles away from Chicago.
And on the flipside you got people saying they're from Chicago, when they're actually from Springfield.
 
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Problem with (most) car washes is they use the recycled water for the undercarriage wash. I was religious about washing after every snow event and accelerated the frame rot on my Tundra that way.
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I hate going to the car wash anyway plus I don't have one close by. The undercarriage wash is a must, I use a sprinkler or the ryobi pressure washer attachment, which works pretty good. Got back from the car wash and the truck looked ready to be cleaned again.
 

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Renegade1LI

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My guess is if you actually put in a stationary wash bay, you will need to also have a water reclaim system, and most likely have to pay someone to come and empty the tank regularly. I don't see such a thing being a very economical solution to keeping your car clean. If it were me, I would purchase a hot water power washing system and the available attachments that are designed for vehicle and chassis washing. Lots of nice tools that hook right up to a power washer to make washing a vehicle an easy job. Since it is just a "power washer" and not a permanent wash bay, you probably wouldn't have to worry about your runoff. I have a 7gpm diesel fired hot power washer that works great for this very thing. The burner only kicks on when I squeeze the trigger and provides instant hot water all the way to steam.

I have a hot water pressure washer and all the attachments, what I'm looking to do is build a dedicated wash and cleaning bay. Might be a simple as a shelter logic garage over stone using a pw with a diesel heater. Need to get out of the weather hot or cold, always nice to work inside.
 

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To get back on track: I don't have wash bay but have cobbled together under chassis spray out of pvc with drilled holes. use for salt. Lot of salted roads this time of year. No pics though.
I built basically the same thing: A chassis washer made from PVC pipe, plastic nozzles, and a quick-disconnect garden hose fitting.

I'm considering having my Ford undercoated with a lanolin- or wax-based coating, and I want to rinse off road salt without damaging the undercoating. The automatic car washes around here have undercarriage washers, but I often wonder if they might be a bit too powerful for a soft undercoating, and besides, driving the truck home from the car wash could pick up more road salt again.

I already had an undercarriage washer attachment for my pressure washer, but it's so powerful that I think it would remove soft undercoating quite quickly. It's also a hassle to set up the gas-powered pressure washer every time I want to rinse off the chassis.

My solution was to make a simple washer that connects to my garden hose to gently rinse off the salt, hopefully without taking any of the undercoating with it.

I can use the washer on any above-freezing day in the winter, and the slope of the driveway drains the water off into the woods. A while ago, I fabbed up a hose setup that lets me keep the garden hose permanently connected to a valve in the basement. I just pull the garden hose out of the basement through a fairlead that I installed (see photo below), and then retract it back into the basement when I'm done. The valve handle is outside, but the hose remains connected to the valve inside the house, which never freezes.

To wash the chassis, I simply pull out the hose, snap it onto the undercarriage washer, rinse the undercarriage with three or four passes under the truck, disconnect the washer, retract the hose, and lay the washer down upside down at a slight angle to drain. Less than two minutes to set up and two minutes to put away. "Slick as snot on a glass doorknob," as an old friend used to say. :)

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I would check local codes for something like that before spending a lot of resources. I highly doubt that a "civilized" state such as New York would let a formal grey water system just runoff and seep into the ground.
 
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I would check local codes for something like that before spending a lot of resources. I highly doubt that a "civilized" state such as New York would let a formal grey water system just runoff and seep into the ground.
LOL, I'm not building a car wash, just want a dedicated place to clean & detail out of the weather. Just want to make it quick & easy to use plus not having to take out or put away everything after cleaning.
 

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The best thing to do is have everything set up and plumbed and ready to go with minimal fuss. As an example, I have a wall mounted pressure washer along with a wall mounted swivel pressure washer hose reel installed in my garage. The only things I have to do to be operational is hook the hose to the pressure washer inlet, turn the water on and flip the power switch. Can be running in under 60 seconds. My outdoor hose spigot is next to the side door of the garage so I have a 15 foot section of hose with quick disconnects on each end. When I'm done cleaning, that short hose is very easy to deal with. Even better, but not worth the expense in my situation, would be to have water plumbed inside the garage right next to the pressure washer and have it always connected to water.

The more "set up and ready to go" everything is, the more likely you'll use it. It doesn't take a huge expense to have your own 'wash bay' at home. Start simple and as you get used to it and use it more you'll start figuring out what you'd like to change/upgrade.

If you use something like a Shelter Logic enclosure along with the hot water pressure washer, just remember you're going to turn that enclosure into a steam room. Also, make sure the enclosure is large enough to allow you to comfortably work all around the vehicle with a pressure washer wand.
 

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LOL, I'm not building a car wash, just want a dedicated place to clean & detail out of the weather. Just want to make it quick & easy to use plus not having to take out or put away everything after cleaning.
I am just suggesting for you to check local codes regarding grey water runoff and use in established structures before committing to building it. Especially in New York.

But you do you.
 

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Check AutoGeek forums, they have a lot of detail shop and detail bay pics. I am thinking of adding a electric pressure washer on a switch in my garage with a quick disconnect to the outside, I do live on some acreage so I’m not as concerned about runoff, but it would be nice just to flip a switch and be done in 20 min instead of an hour dragging everything out.
 

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Check AutoGeek forums, they have a lot of detail shop and detail bay pics. I am thinking of adding a electric pressure washer on a switch in my garage with a quick disconnect to the outside, I do live on some acreage so I’m not as concerned about runoff, but it would be nice just to flip a switch and be done in 20 min instead of an hour dragging everything out.
I had that setup at my old house, still haven't gotten around to it at the new house, it was really great. Just turn on the water and pull out the wand.

And LOL to the checking codes above. That's the kind of mindset that will eventually get car washing at home banned, "for the environment of course" when it will be all about forcing you to spend money at a business. Meanwhile big business dumps whatever they want upstream of town water intakes. If you ever have a few hour to kill on google maps, take a look at where your town gets its water from and follow the river up, chances are you'll find quite a few industrial plants with pipes running out to that same water.
 

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I think the bigger problem than gray water is the potential for gasoline and oil spills going into your drain system.

It's better to check the code before building than to have to rip it out afterwards.
 

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There is a YouTuber that just built his dream garage for detailing and running his YouTube channel. His channel is called The Detail Geek. He started doing detail jobs at his house and then generated the funds to build a detailing specific shop.
 

MileHighRover

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How many of you saying to check codes wash your vehicles at home? Have YOU checked your towns' codes on washing your vehicle at home? Are you reclaiming the runoff? Are you concerned with gasoline and oil spills going into your drain system?

Honestly, I've never in my live heard of so much nonsense about something as mundane as washing a vehicle.
 
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