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Great looking building, that extra height looks great. I built a 30 x 50 but was limited to just over 10' tall since i have a height restriction in town and we have a second floor. So my extra height went to the second floor.
Have a safe trip. You wont be far from me on your trip, northern CT here.
 
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Great looking building, that extra height looks great. I built a 30 x 50 but was limited to just over 10' tall since i have a height restriction in town and we have a second floor. So my extra height went to the second floor.
Have a safe trip. You wont be far from me on your trip, northern CT here.

Definitely lucky we dont have any restrictions here. Made it nice to "future plan" a bit. We dont have a need for the 14' high door right now but figured in the future we might get an RV so rather than having to park it outside thought we could park it inside.

I wouldnt say i have a clue where you actually are, but have driven up I-91 a few times to go into Vermont with the wife. She (well both of us now) have friends up more by Burlington and the wife's grandparents have a cabin in Springfield, VT.
 
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I have a question for you. What type of material is the roof sheathing that your using?

Are you referring to the wood shealthing? Or?

The wood is 5/8" CDX. The roofing felt is a Synthetic underlayment from a company I'd never heard of but was recommended to me by the local building supply place. Its Bigfoot Underlayment.
 
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And for updates....I made it back.

4400 miles driven. Wasnt to bad as I split each way into three days instead of just hammering through it. i was a bit disappointed as I had planned to camp to save some money along the way. But my first night was in Minnesota and i quickly discovered pretty much all the parks shut down for the winter. Not just close the bathrooms but completely close. Not a big deal but just cost a bit more for hotels. Especially with the dog since they all charge a "pet fee". But I managed to only have one, semi-sketchy FEELING hotel along the way/. Which Ill mention more of in a second.

So for the way back I had a U-Haul 6x12 trailer. Ill talk more on my distain for uhaul in a minute. I dont think ive mentioned it here but the wife and I are having twins in March. So while we were back visiting they had the baby shower. Plus my wife had previously found two cribs she liked and we had delivered to her parents house. My parent also came out for both thanksgiving and the baby shower which was nice. But had a bunch of stuff to bring home.

Which led us into the UHaul ordeal. Apparently there are next to no trailer AT ALL available in CT. In any size. We had looked around a month before we left to make a reservation and just never did. So we tried 10 days before. And got a call from the regional dispatch that they would call back in three days to let us know if one would be available. Their reservation system was annoying as we couldnt pick any sort of "flexible" option. It was the next day dispatch called an informed us they would have NO trailers available for our selected time. We told the lady we were flexible and were basically told to make a ton of reservations to show that. So in the end we had around 10 different reservations for pickups on different days with two different sized trailers. Kind of silly....

But we got the 6x12 and canceled everything else. When we went to pick it up...that turned into another experience. Check in as easy enough and we went and i backed up next to it. Nobody came out so I went ahead and hooked it up. Now I was always taught with the safety chains you NEVER twist them. You can cross them but never twist. So i hooked it up as normal and do a bit more thorough pre-trip since its, well, a u-haul. Everything looked fine till I got to one of the wheels. It had a mismatched lug nut. So i reach down and the damn thing isnt even wrench tight and i can loosen it by hand. All the rest seemed tight enough. So after ~15 minutes of waiting the wife goes in to see what is up. They never told the checkout guy that we were there. So he comes over and I tell him the lug nut is loose. No joke all he says is "we don't service trailers so if you dont want to do it yourself I have to take the trailer out of service". I was a bit miffed by that but I have tools in the truck and my wifes dad has tools at his place to torque it so whatever Ill tighten it for the 10 miles we have to drive and torque it there. Then the "tech" looks at how I have things hooked up and tells me, to my face, I did it wrong and proceeds to remove the safety chains and twist them instead of crossing them. At this point i just wanted to leave with the trailer so I stood back and let him just tell me I did things wrong.

Once we got back to my wife's place I torqued every lug nut and then fixed the chains.

The other issue I had with the U-Haul was the running lights. They worked fine until the Chicago area and then they just stopped working. The brake and turn signal lights worked just fine though. I thought it was my 7 to 4 pin adapter but that proved incorrect as I purchased a new one and the lights still didnt work. So i called U-Haul to bring it up and was told I told I either just deal with it or take it to a dealer and they take the trailer out of service with no promise of getting a replacement. So I kept the trailer. And that sounds mean but the representative was super nice and helpful in the situation so I was appreciative of her.

But without the lights I tried to limit night time driving to a minimum. I eventually made it home and we got the trailer returned and informed them of the problems. So hopefully they will actually fix them instead of just renting it out right away.


And of course things dont stop there! The truck was now due for oil change and service. Easy stuff. I had delayed changing the front differential fluid for two reasons. First being it required removing my front skid plate and I dont mind the forward diff being a few more miles over the trans and rear diff. So when I did the trans and rear diff at 60k i skipped the front. I had planned to change it priorto this trip as i removed the skid plates to save some weight (100+ pounds total). Well the damn front diff drain plug was torqued to tight or just...who knows. But it stripped out. So i ordered a new plug and gasket from Toyota and they were waiting for me when i got home. As for getting the plug out....I tried the quick and simple chisel and hammer but that didnt work. So i dragged the small air compressor from the new garage to the old garage and used the air hammer. That worked great.


So now I should be able to get back to the garage!
 

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Its funny how flat an area looks until you start actually making it flat. The rear of the garage is ~6 inches above grade while the front ended up being close to 3ft above.
I guess i didnt take any good pictures of it (was in abit of a rush) but I added foam to the exterior of the foundation. The concrete guy then brought in more dirt and made a "ramp" up to the pad. Bit of extra cost as neither of us realized how tall it would be but he made a fair offer to do the work. He also added dirt to the perimeter and sloped it away for water
The same thing happened to me. I just had my site cleared and the area looked somewhat flat before starting but I ended up with 18" of fill at the front end. I'll have to make it up with an earth and concrete ramp to make the building accessible by vehicle.
I appreciate the pics and updates.
 

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The progress is looking great and the amount you're doing solo is impressive. I remember also getting creating when I was residing my house solo but that's nothing compared to what you have going on!

And congrats on the upcoming additions! Hope everything goes smoothly between then and now...have a 3 yr old and 6 month old and they sure change your status quo but it's been fun!
 
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The same thing happened to me. I just had my site cleared and the area looked somewhat flat before starting but I ended up with 18" of fill at the front end. I'll have to make it up with an earth and concrete ramp to make the building accessible by vehicle.
I appreciate the pics and updates.

Yeah I was surprised when all was said and done. As was the concrete guy. We both had figured the front would be maybe a foot higher.

I will say the concrete guy was nice to work with about it though. Didnt make a big deal about it and mentioned he was surprised as well. He made a great offer to make the ramp which I gladly accepted. He had a bunch of "dirty fill" dirt (dirty meaning it had bunch of rocks and some concrete debris) that he brought in and then the road base. Basically only charged for the road base plus a bit of labor. Had it done in half a day so couldnt complain!
 
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Well winter is here...and looking like itll stay this time. Got a bit of snow on Sunday and it has just stayed cold out. The snow has mostly melted away in the sun now though. With the sun out I got back to work on the garage. 16 degrees is cold, but it is interesting how much warmer it feels with the sun on you. Long as there is no wind, working outside in a sweatshirt is perfectly fine (except for my feet...have to wear heavier socks!)

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But with the weather we have had...snow and moisture in the air, my plan of working on the roof more was quickly over ruled. I got up on the roof and the metal had a nice layer of frost on it as did the underlayment. I could have done a bit more but its just not worth the risk.

So instead I farted around for a bit trying to decided what to do. I ended up deciding to start the siding on the front. Which as most new things do, took way longer to do the first sheet than it should have.

First step was to un pack all the sheets. Looking through them theres one sheet I can not remember why we ordered it at the length we did. The first sheet to go up was 18' in length. But for some reason I have one sheet at 17'. O well I'll find a use for it...either cut it down for the side or who knows.

Anyways lots of putting the sheet up, then taking it down, measuring things, laying things out, then finally putting it up for good. Like i said the first always takes the longest. This time it ended up taking a good 3-4 hours between moving everything and figuring it all out. But its up! And screwed down.

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Always feels like a milestone to get the first one up. Still a lot to go but, hey least it is looking sort of like a garage now! Its also interesting how being 18' the panel seemed easy to manage vs the roof panels at 24'. Knock on wood the rest will stay easy to handle!

And because I get side tracked and have a "goldfish" memory at times, I made a quick sketch with important info so i dont forget things like the screw spacing.
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The plan is to finish the roof first...but that will just depend on conditions. I may split the time into some siding and wait till after lunch to tackle the roof.
 

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Definitely lucky we dont have any restrictions here. Made it nice to "future plan" a bit. We dont have a need for the 14' high door right now but figured in the future we might get an RV so rather than having to park it outside thought we could park it inside.

I wouldnt say i have a clue where you actually are, but have driven up I-91 a few times to go into Vermont with the wife. She (well both of us now) have friends up more by Burlington and the wife's grandparents have a cabin in Springfield, VT.
Thanks for the information. I'm actually talking about the roof material itself. I guess it is some type of aluminum or composite material.
Are you referring to the wood shealthing? Or?

The wood is 5/8" CDX. The roofing felt is a Synthetic underlayment from a company I'd never heard of but was recommended to me by the local building supply place. Its Bigfoot Underlayment.
Thanks for the information. I'm actually talking about the roof material itself. I guess it is some type of aluminum or composite material.
 

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Wow, I am not easily impressed but I am in awe of your garage and ability to build it and overcome challenges! I am tired just reading this thread. Looking forward to seeing more progress and the finished product. Are they ever finished?
 
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Wow, I am not easily impressed but I am in awe of your garage and ability to build it and overcome challenges! I am tired just reading this thread. Looking forward to seeing more progress and the finished product. Are they ever finished?

Completely finished...never!
 
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Back to working on the siding. Its been to cold to go up on the roof. This is pretty much how all the "exposed to the air" panels look like in the mornings...nice layer of frost

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In that picture to the left you can also see my first real big mistake. I was working on the side of the man door panel and grabbed the wrong length panel. I got it all cut and ready to go and then realized my error. Soooo now might be short 1 panel but we will see once I get to the back wall since it has 4 windows i might be able to place it somewhere else.

I started out without predrilling the panels. I would just marked with a sharpie where the screws needed to go. But this proved to be a bit annoying while working on a ladder. So after the first three panels i started predrilling. I must say that makes things much easier!

As for getting panels into place, its a bit of an adventure but not to bad. The panels under 20 ft in length I could just stand up. But those that were over 20 ft I had to resort to the same sort of method I used to get the roof panels onto the roof. Basically grab the top end of the panel and drag it up on the ladder. The pull the panel up and lean it against the side of the garage where I could then get off the ladder and position it where it needed to be. Once I got one screw down low , Id move the ladder over and let it rest against the panel to keep it from pulling away from the garage.

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I hit the "halfway" point of the front of the garage
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I did at that point have to go up on the roof but it had been warm enough so the frost was gone. I needed to trim the panel to match the roof line and also get a measurement to know what to cut the next panel at. While I was there I also screwed the top of each panel as I couldnt reach via ladder on the panels over 20ft. Ill still need to screw some more on the taller panels but Ill need either a longer ladder or to rent the man lift to get it.
 
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In other, non garage related stuff, I picked up a new tool. Something I had been wanting for awhile was an oil filter cutter. No specific reason but i do like the ability to inspect things as all our vehicles are higher milage. And the one thats not was a fresh rebuild by me so its nice to be able to check the filter for anything odd.

Its nothing fancy and i believe is a made in Taiwan tool but it worked quite well and feels nice. It is nice the cutter wheel is replaceable and just uses a standard pipe cutter wheel if i ever need to replace it.

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It let a nice, clean cut and did it without having to "dent" the oil filter to get it to cut.
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overall...it was a bit expensive at ~$70 but it'll be a nice addition to the garage
 
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Few days ago woke up to some unexpected snow. Not a ton..maybe 2" or so. I'd spread out panels on the ground so there wa sa bit of "find the panels" going on.

With the snow I decided to tackle some other projects. Nothing to exciting.

The previous owner had a work bench (well reloading bench) in the storage room that took up a lot of room. So I dismantled that and then built a basic shelf unit. It cleared up a bunch of clutter and once the wife gets in there to organize it'll be even better. Best part was it was mostly "left over" stuff rom the garage. Not that I wouldnt have used it in the garage but this was a good use for it too.

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The other less exciting thing, we finally mounted the TV in the spare bedroom. Have had the mount and TV in the room just never got around to putting it up. With the wife's parent coming into town tomorrow we figured it would be nice for them since they will most likely be up way before us
 
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After the snow, it took a few days to melt off. Then we got a warm spell. It was ~45 degrees yesterday and ~50 today. With plans to go back to in the 30s tomorrow. So I took advantage and got the roof to where I like it.

That meant getting the last 8 panels up (3 on one side and 5 on the other). Which I got done in relatively short time and then screwed down. Only problem I ran into is I seem to have misplaced the bag of "stitch" screws (shorter screws that screw the two ribs between panels together). I'll have to order more of those. But at least now the roof is covered minus the very top for the ridge vent.
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I did take a section of the roof vent up there to see how it would fit. It will look nice once its installed.

I also do wear fall protection when up on the roof. Especially when alone. Yeah a 4/12 pitch isnt that steep but Ive known plenty of guys who have gotten hurt falling from roofs. I had been using a temporary anchor and just moving it around as needed. But now that all the metal is on, I looked at permanent solutions. I found these basic anchor points that will fit perfectly under the roof cap piece while leaving the D-Ring exposed. I was only going to install two of them (its a D-Ring on each side of the roof) but decided to order two more since they are pretty inexpensive. Figure I can put on 10' from the edge on either side and then split the difference with the other two. Overkill? Maybe. But it will be nice to be able to keep the fall rope shorter

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And just as I was getting down the wind started picking up. Nothing to crazy yet but figured it was a good enough time to call it quits for now. In-laws will be in town for a week so probably wont get much more done but you never know!
 

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The build is looking great!
You might give some thought to having the rings powder coated, you could also dip them in primer and paint.
That Cad plating will only hold up for so long and you could have a rust stain working its way down the roof.
 
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The build is looking great!
You might give some thought to having the rings powder coated, you could also dip them in primer and paint.
That Cad plating will only hold up for so long and you could have a rust stain working its way down the roof.

Late reply...but funny enough over my break, I was thinking the same thing. Powder coat or at least some sort of protection.
 
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The wife's mom and dad were in town this past week so didnt get a ton done.

But one thing I did get accomplished was to get the glow plugs working on our Isuzu NPR boxtruck. The glow plug system did work when we purchased it and might have been part of why the company off loaded it for such a good deal.

My wife's dad is a diesel mechanic by trade. They actually owned a pretty successful truck company back on the east coast. But my wife's dad started as a mechanic before taking over the business.

Anyways as the wife and mother-in-law baked Christmas cookies, my father-in-law and I worked to diagnosis the glow plugs. Or I should say my father-in-law did. I can stumble my way through repairs and diagnosis but watching someone who did that work everyday was impressive. Where I would have been digging for wiring diagrams and info online, he just dove right in, looked at things and after about 20 minutes with a test light had the system all figured out (his company does very little work on Isuzu's, especially older ones like ours is). We did blow two 60amp fuses that ended up being difficult to find in town (we bought the only two we could find in town). But after about two hours he had discovered that someone had previously installed new glow plugs and when they put the connecting bar (or whatever its called...piece of metal between all the plugs), they installed it incorrectly and it was shorting to the block. Once we reinstalled the metal piece the correct way and rebent it how it was supposed to be, the glow plugs worked!

With the glow plugs working, the truck starts up decently well in the cold now (like 15 degrees out). Before it would take multiple attempts and cranking for a minute plus to get it to fire. Now just cycle the glow plugs 2-3 times and it would fire up.

But thats where there potential bad news. Once it fired up, my father-in-law mentioned it sounded like one cylinder isnt the same as the other three. Once the truck has warmed up a bit it sounds fine, as does when it running and not just idling. My father-in-law recommended doing a compression test just to see, so I ordered a test kit. Its one of those things I probably wont go to far down the rabbit hole, but who knows!


Once the wife's parents had left, I tackled some smaller projects I had been meaning to do.

First up was just to service the box truck. Oil filter, fuel filter, transmission filter, and grease everything. All pretty simple things. Its amazing to think we had put ~5k miles on it.
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I also cut open each filter to take a look inside. Each one looked great. The filter changes came a lot sooner the "recommended" interval by milage by they all have that "or every 12 months". Based one what I saw and as little as we use the truck, Ill probably modify that change interval to something in between milage and time.




After the truck the next project was to fix our guest bathroom tub/shower drain. Im pretty sure it original to the house. While a shower was being taken we noticed the drain from the tub was leaking out where the gasket is. Not a big leak but a small one. So off to Ace hardware where they luckily had a kit for tubs. No pictures but it went pretty smooth other than figuring out how to screw the top piece into the piece under the tub lol. But I got it done and all put together.


Which then led to the next project. Which is this section of drain pipe.
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It is the drain pipes for the guest bathroom and the main bathroom. Im not 100% sure what each line is. But it appears to me (based on sink spacing) that the two outside lines are for the sinks. And I have no idea what the middle line is for.

The main issue we have been seeing is that the sinks will drain fine for 30-60 seconds and then will start to back up. letting them sit for a few minutes and this repeats. However if you use the sink till it starts to back up, turn the water off, let it drain (which is a bit slower), wait a few seconds, then use the sink again it will backup right away.

I figured there was a clog in the section of pipe so I cut it out. Only to find that is was unobstructed. I then slid my boroscope up each pipe as far as I could (which was at least to the main bathroom, two floors up) and everything seems fine.

The only odd thing I did notice was that the two lines going up to the third floor (main bathroom), continue past the sink connection and then appear to 90 degree bend towards each other and are connected by a pipe. Sort of forming a big upside down "U"

So I accomplish nothing on this other than more head scratching lol. My only though is maybe it isnt vented correctly so it is getting a bit of resistance from that? Ill try to get up in the attic tomorrow and see if theres a vent over the bathroom as I know there is a vent, but it a good distance from the bathroom sinks.
 
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Back at things for a bit....well not much but one more panel up!

But this panel kicked my ***. I ruined one sheet and almost a second getting it up. The problem is all the weight is up top and the bottom section with the cut out for the garage door became extra flimsy and prone to bending. The first sheet i almost had up in position but the top ended up folding back on itself a foot or two down the narrow portion.

My second attempt I tried using a piece of 2x4 material to strengthen the narrower portion. This sort of worked but the top was still heavy and awkward especially when trying to line things up in the J-Channel.

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But that method failed too as I couldnt get the piece up and the clamps and 2x4 were in the way.

So being a bit frustrated I made an executive decision and made the one sheet into two sheets. The regular length section and then the narrow section. That made things much easier to handle and I got the sheets in place. The seam between the two sections isnt as bad as i thought it would be either. I also messed up measuring somehow for the screw holes and they ended up being 1-1.5" below where they were supposed to be. Luckily thats only on the upper section though.

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I then swapped gears. Wal-mart had some 36" metal cabinets on clearance a bit ago and I ended up picking up six of them HOPING they would be of acceptable quality. (if not i could return them). So today I assembled two of them in the "stacked" configuration.

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They are black and not gray and need a good wiping down but overall Im pleased with them. For the MSRP price of $200, Id probably look for something else. But at the clearance price they are well worth it. I still have four of them to assemble but thats for a windy day that I cant work on the garage.
 
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its been cold here. Like a lot of the rest of the great Northwest of the US. Single digits with nights being negative (single digit negative). So havent done to much outside.

I did get another "set" of cabinets assembled. Boy that was some cold metal to have to touch! But I am going to use these to store my tools that im currently using and also screws and other things. Basically make it my "garage build supply" cabinets. Will be much nicer than my current just set them by the garage door lol.

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I also had an interesting day. I got a call from the lumber yard letting me know my I-Joists were there and had been for a bit and to see when I wanted them delivered. Well I remember talking with the sales guy about them but not having actually ordered and paid for them. Well after going and talking with them it is clear they were my I-Joists. The paid for part? Im still not sure. But they said I did. Sadly the way the invoices printed make it hard to tell exactly. Im not sure how much i want to dig into it beyond what I have.

Pricing for them is also a bit funky. I needed 31 of them for the mezzanine. A 30' long I-Joist is the same price as a 15' I-Joist. Just one of those kind of funny things

But they got delivered yesterday.
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Next week the weather should warm up back to being workable in. Till then i am just sort of cleaning up and organizing the garage. Im hoping to get it cleaned up enough to be able to move our camper and my MR2 in there just so they are out of the weather
 

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Impressive you are doing most of this work yourself! My goal is also to have a 40x60 built this next year.

now about his MR2.... show me! I have a '86 with a gen4 3SGTE
 
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Impressive you are doing most of this work yourself! My goal is also to have a 40x60 built this next year.

now about his MR2.... show me! I have a '86 with a gen4 3SGTE

Ive got a '88 Supercharged.
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Was lucky and bought it before MR2 prices got silly. Was a bit of a basket case when i got it though. Original owner took great care of it and the interior is in great shape overall. The owner i bought it from though...Im not 100% what exactly he was doing lol. But I bought it with the motor taken out and stripped down to just the block.

Still a few issues and parts/pieces to gather but its still drivable!
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Well its been a bit cold and everything is snow covered so havent worked on the garage the past little bit. Had plenty of other projects though.

I did picked up a few nice tools. A nice Mitutoyo Dial Indicator, brown and Sharp 6" dial indicator (and not pictured) a Starrett Dial indicator. The Mitutoyo was "sticky" and didnt work right when I bought it. But lucky a good cleaning and adjusting things got it so its operating smoothly now. So a good score!
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I did spend some time messing around with our Isuzu NPR box truck. And lets just say things didnt go as planned! I wanted to do a compression test so I bough a cheap tester. Following the service manual i removed the glow plug and installed the gauge. But for whatever reason i cant get it to read the pressure. The gauge seems to work as I can attach the adapter and gauge and just a blow gun on the air compressor and it will hold the ~100psi of air without leaking. So i gave up on that for now.

Then i decided I wanted to check the rear brakes. Should be easy right? Well nope! The outer wheels came off no problem. But both sides the inner wouldnt come off. This is my first dual wheel setup and guess it had to be stubborn! I tried everything I could find online and nothing worked. Loosen lug nuts and drive around...nope, Beat with a hammer....nope, I even tried using a bottle jack and 2x6 which didnt work though i couldnt quite get it perfect by myself.

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So that was another let down. I gave up and put everything back together. I have a trip to make in a few days so for now I guess Ill just have to wait and try again. I dont have reason to believe the brakes are bad or anything just figured I should check. The fronts are good as I changed them when I did the wheel bearings.

This was definitely a 2 steps backwards no steps forward kind of deal lol.
 

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Then i decided I wanted to check the rear brakes. Should be easy right? Well nope! The outer wheels came off no problem. But both sides the inner wouldnt come off. This is my first dual wheel setup and guess it had to be stubborn! I tried everything I could find online and nothing worked. Loosen lug nuts and drive around...nope, Beat with a hammer....nope, I even tried using a bottle jack and 2x6 which didnt work though i couldnt quite get it perfect by myself.

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So that was another let down. I gave up and put everything back together. I have a trip to make in a few days so for now I guess Ill just have to wait and try again. I dont have reason to believe the brakes are bad or anything just figured I should check. The fronts are good as I changed them when I did the wheel bearings.

This was definitely a 2 steps backwards no steps forward kind of deal lol.

You removed the "outer" lug nut for the outer tire, but not the "inner" lug nut for the inner tire. The square ended inner lug nut needs to be removed as well. It was an easy thing to miss. Good luck!
 

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Like InsaneEd said, it’s easy to miss that the inner lugs are the same ”studs” that the outer lugs screw onto. To remove the inner lugs/studs you use the square ends to turn them.
 
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You removed the "outer" lug nut for the outer tire, but not the "inner" lug nut for the inner tire. The square ended inner lug nut needs to be removed as well. It was an easy thing to miss. Good luck!

Like InsaneEd said, it’s easy to miss that the inner lugs are the same ”studs” that the outer lugs screw onto. To remove the inner lugs/studs you use the square ends to turn them.


OOOO did not know there was an "inner" as well. That would explain things! I should have checked the manual for the NPR but instead assumed it was stuck. Which when googling referred me to a lot of regular trucks which dont seem to have those "inner" nuts!

Thanks guys!
 
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Vehicles just arent getting along with me! Got the windshield in the wife's car replaced yesterday. So had to drop her off at work. Car ran just fine. Get home and wait the half hour for the Glass Shop to open and head out and her car pretty much immediately throws a check engine light. Run and grab my code reader real quick and its a Cylinder 3 misfire. Still drove it for the windshield replacement and it also added a Cylinder 4 misfire code and then a Random Cylinder misfire code.

Its an older car (2003 VW Jetta) so stuff goes bad. So today I go to dig into it and see exactly what needs replaced....

Step one remove remove the plastic engine cover. And break the oil dipstick tube into 4 pieces lol. Great start lol
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Then go to pull the spark plug wire and even gently pulling up on one (off the ignition coil) it broke. Well ****! So ordered replacement wires and a coil. Should be here tomorrow depending on the weather. Ill use the new plug wires and test with the old coil first to see if it was just bad plug wires.

O and ordered the socket for the inner lug on the isuzu.
 
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I fee like i should add "and other projects" to the title. Havent been working on the garage much at all. Letting the snow melt/compact down a bit and also had a bit of a cold for a few days.

One thing the wife and I have always disliked in our home is the heating and cooling. The basement and middle floor work great. But the upstairs that has our bedroom and the kids room is pretty subpar. The house was built with HVAC only for the basement and second floor as far as we can tell. At some point someone tried to add it to the upstairs so there are registers in the bathroom and two bedrooms. But the ducting to get it there is ****. Good example is with bedroom door open it will be 2-3 degrees cooler. But close the bedroom door and it will be 10 degree's colder. The inverse happens with cooling.

So we decided to add a mini split to the two upstairs bedrooms. We had a couple HVAC companies out to get quotes but man their labor rates were just stupid expensive. Talking half the cost (or more) of the quote was in labor. And mind you this didnt include them doing electrical or mounting the ceiling cassettes.

So we decided to tackle it ourselves. Stuff is slowly coming as the interstates have been a mess for truckers. But go the main unit at least
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We also got the lineset coverings. We want to paint them to match the house so I worked on that. Will need a second coat but the first turned out decent. Just takes awhile to dry in the 30 degree weather. Will also have ot touch them up a bit once installed but we figured its easier to at least get the bulk painting done on the ground.
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Hopefully Ill be back on the garage in the next couple of days.
 

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OOOO did not know there was an "inner" as well. That would explain things! I should have checked the manual for the NPR but instead assumed it was stuck. Which when googling referred me to a lot of regular trucks which dont seem to have those "inner" nuts!

Thanks guys!
Hey V,

They make a square "Budd Studd" socket....(inner nut)

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I think? They come in two different sizes? 3/4" & 13/16"?

They are 1" drive....

There is also a "keeper" wrench for when the "inner stud" comes out "frozen" to the 1-1/2" Budd Nut on the outer wheel...

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This second tool is a MUST HAVE!!

Hope this helps...

Really liking your manly MAN SIZED garage!!

Later, Mark
 

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Hey V Man,

One more thing?

On the older trucks, the BUDD WHEELS on the drivers side?

Were LEFT HAND THREAD!

If so, there will be an "L" stamped in the center of the "square stud head"....

You do not want to break them....(not sure how "beefy" your impact is??)

Lots of Never Seize or oil when putting them back on...even a bit of grease...just do not put them on dry.

Hope this helps....

Later, Mark
 
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Hey V Man,

One more thing?

On the older trucks, the BUDD WHEELS on the drivers side?

Were LEFT HAND THREAD!

If so, there will be an "L" stamped in the center of the "square stud head"....

You do not want to break them....(not sure how "beefy" your impact is??)

Lots of Never Seize or oil when putting them back on...even a bit of grease...just do not put them on dry.

Hope this helps....

Later, Mark


I already ordered a socket but thanks!

And yup the drivers side is all left handed.

Thanks for the tips though!
 

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Keep up the fantastic work on your garage!

Shoot! The way the wind blows there? If one of those panels gets away from you?


I'll put up a net! :LOL: Should get here in an hour or so! (I'm below Punxsutawney, Pa)

Groundhog day coming!

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In other, non garage related stuff, I picked up a new tool. Something I had been wanting for awhile was an oil filter cutter. No specific reason but i do like the ability to inspect things as all our vehicles are higher milage. And the one thats not was a fresh rebuild by me so its nice to be able to check the filter for anything odd.

Its nothing fancy and i believe is a made in Taiwan tool but it worked quite well and feels nice. It is nice the cutter wheel is replaceable and just uses a standard pipe cutter wheel if i ever need to replace it.

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It let a nice, clean cut and did it without having to "dent" the oil filter to get it to cut.
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overall...it was a bit expensive at ~$70 but it'll be a nice addition to the garage
I have been looking for one of these but not sure witch one is worth buying, what brand is this one?
 
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