Vendors - opportunity to quote high solids..

[EricVonHa]

Finished building a 2k sq/ft garage mahal. I'm an extreme DIY kinda guy.

SW is giving me a hard time on buying their commercial Ceramic Carpet product to give you an idea of how serious I am about this garage floor.

Looking for a high solids epoxy coating that is self leveling. Roll-on products are a no go. Multi-step, multi-layer, traction aggregate with a poly top coat for some sheen is what we are looking to install.

The chemistry of this all is quite simple. Follow the instructions regarding pot life, re-coat times and application thickness and all is well.

Not my first time at the rodeo for flooring.

The concrete is 45+ days old at this point. One week ago it was diamond grinded to be equivalent of CSP3. I can go more than that if need be.

Looking to see what some of the vendors here may be able to offer that compares? In terms of a retail consumer grade,the SW 650 series is a similar product to what I am looking to install. Less thickness than the Ceramic Carpet (400) but still within the range of acceptability.

Thanks much for reading and any assistance that can be offered.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

We only carrier industrial grade products. Contact us for more info regarding coatings of all types .

The 650 is a 100 percent solids SL.
We have an equivalent, the installation procedures are the same., coverage too.
These products do require a topcoat.

Why do you need this? Is your floor shot?

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[Garage Flooring]

Finished building a 2k sq/ft garage mahal. I'm an extreme DIY kinda guy.

SW is giving me a hard time on buying their commercial Ceramic Carpet product to give you an idea of how serious I am about this garage floor.

Looking for a high solids epoxy coating that is self leveling. Roll-on products are a no go. Multi-step, multi-layer, traction aggregate with a poly top coat for some sheen is what we are looking to install.

The chemistry of this all is quite simple. Follow the instructions regarding pot life, re-coat times and application thickness and all is well.

Not my first time at the rodeo for flooring.

The concrete is 45+ days old at this point. One week ago it was diamond grinded to be equivalent of CSP3. I can go more than that if need be.

Looking to see what some of the vendors here may be able to offer that compares? In terms of a retail consumer grade,the SW 650 series is a similar product to what I am looking to install. Less thickness than the Ceramic Carpet (400) but still within the range of acceptability.

Thanks much for reading and any assistance that can be offered.

I am very happy to hep as are many here. I see a lot about the products you have considered, but what I would like a better feel for is how are you using the floor and also where you are located.

 

[benwah]

Nice to see someone knowing what they want!

CSP 3 should be fine. Do you have an email address?

 

[Armorpoxy]

Send us your email address and we will quite the appropriate Job on a Pallet kit. Thanks!

 

[EricVonHa]

To answer a few questions, the floor is new. After roughly 45 days, it was diamond cut to CSP3. It was pressure washed a few days after the initial diamond coating and will be final cleaned/pressure washed again. Enough time will pass between the final sterilization to the application of the flooring coating to ensure that the concrete is not emitting any further moisture.

The building is a high-end hobbyist garage with commercial qualities. Although the building is not intended to be used as a service business, the attributes of a commercial shop have been incorporated.

Roughly 3/4 of the 2000sq/ft space will be used for car storage. The rest is working space. The floor is virgin and un-used till this point. The floor coating will be installed in the coming weeks as the humidity of the Philadelphia region wanes.

Looking to buy a commercial grade flooring system to:

* Withstand moderate auto/truck traffic. High wear resistance qualities should be considered.

* High solids epoxy, no roll-on solutions, bonding primer? Probably, does your system require it?

*Aggregate for added traction/slip/fall prevention is a must.

* Color tinting to a blue-ish base is preferred with a dark contrasting aggregate.

* Top coat to add sheen and include commercial wearability and durability

* Roll-on products are obviously eliminated. Self-leveling high-solids epoxy is a must.

* Proposal to include rakes, depth gauges, spiked shoes and INCLUDE factory recommendations in writing for strain relief of applied coatings during installation.

* Think "wow" factor. That is being installed here. If you've walked into a airplane hangar or a class-A office space with a concrete floor and were amazed at the floor finish and color-- this is what I'd like to do.

* 2-3 highly qualified people will be doing the install. Don't worry about us blaming the product. The floor prep is and installation procedures and timing will be to manufacturer spec.

*If I haven't mentioned it before, think "commercial grade".

Thanks very much for working through this with me. I hope there is enough information above to start to formulate a basic proposal.

 

[Garage Flooring]

To answer a few questions, the floor is new. After roughly 45 days, it was diamond cut to CSP3. It was pressure washed a few days after the initial diamond coating and will be final cleaned/pressure washed again. Enough time will pass between the final sterilization to the application of the flooring coating to ensure that the concrete is not emitting any further moisture.

The building is a high-end hobbyist garage with commercial qualities. Although the building is not intended to be used as a service business, the attributes of a commercial shop have been incorporated.

Roughly 3/4 of the 2000sq/ft space will be used for car storage. The rest is working space. The floor is virgin and un-used till this point. The floor coating will be installed in the coming weeks as the humidity of the Philadelphia region wanes.

Looking to buy a commercial grade flooring system to:

* Withstand moderate auto/truck traffic. High wear resistance qualities should be considered.

* High solids epoxy, no roll-on solutions, bonding primer? Probably, does your system require it?

*Aggregate for added traction/slip/fall prevention is a must.

* Color tinting to a blue-ish base is preferred with a dark contrasting aggregate.

* Top coat to add sheen and include commercial wearability and durability

* Roll-on products are obviously eliminated. Self-leveling high-solids epoxy is a must.

* Proposal to include rakes, depth gauges, spiked shoes and INCLUDE factory recommendations in writing for strain relief of applied coatings during installation.

* Think "wow" factor. That is being installed here. If you've walked into a airplane hangar or a class-A office space with a concrete floor and were amazed at the floor finish and color-- this is what I'd like to do.

* 2-3 highly qualified people will be doing the install. Don't worry about us blaming the product. The floor prep is and installation procedures and timing will be to manufacturer spec.

*If I haven't mentioned it before, think "commercial grade".

Thanks very much for working through this with me. I hope there is enough information above to start to formulate a basic proposal.

When you say aggregate, are you looking fro a full broadcast quartz system? Some of the description sounds like a flake system with anti-skid but elsewhere it looks like you are speaking more of quartz -- in which case the base color becomes irrelevant and often would be clear.

 

[noweare]

Why do you keep saying no "roll-on" products? 100% solids epoxies & polyurethanes are rolled on.
Unless you want a troweled on aggregate filled epoxy, which is overkill for what your
using the floor for.

What you need is a good primer followed 100% solids build coat and a top coat of polyurethane with some anti slip and you would be fine. All are "rolled on"

I have nothing to sell but just offering this recommendation, so you'll have a nice looking, long lasting floor without going broke. We did a 2 coat 100% solids epoxy system a few weeks ago and there are heavily loaded fork lifts running around on it and it looks great.
That's more traffic than your floor will see.

Good luck

 

[Armorpoxy]

Our 100% solids commercial Job on Pallet kits come with calibrated notched squeegees to assure thickness and spread rate so while the primer and topcoat is rolled, the epoxy mid layer is squeegeed. Just rolling on the epoxy has been reported to result in uneven results so we encourage squeegee use. Backrolling lightly after squeegee eliminates any marks from the squeegee.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

What he wants is a true SL epoxy. It is 100% solids with a fortifying silica additive. As the others have mentioned this is likely overkill and not a job for first timers .

It requires gauge rakes or at least notched squeegees as armor mentioned. It also has to be spike rolled to release air, coating is super thick 1/16" and will bubble like nuts if not spike rolled.

It also must be topcoated with more epoxy or urethane , it is not light stable.

This looks like a reverse auction to me, good luck fellas.




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[EricVonHa]

What he wants is a true SL epoxy. It is 100% solids with a fortifying silica additive. As the others have mentioned this is likely overkill and not a job for first timers .

I did it and turned out to be absolutely amazing. I was lucky enough to find a local quartz/silica supplier that did a custom mix for me to create what I would call a "Blue Granite" broadcast. The floor is predominately blue. Though, there is roughly a 10% tea-size black granule in there with it.

This job definitely required an advanced knowledge and skillset of epoxy based systems. I did a ton of research and spoke with a couple contractors as well.

From the grinding surface prep, cleaning, chemical mixing, epoxy application, quartz broadcast and chemical resistant surface coat-- I did it all myself. Well, I did have one helper. 2000sq/ft is a lot to do and definitely required a 2nd set of hands between mixing and prep/clean-up. Brooming off the extra quartz was expedited with a 2nd set of hands as well. We did the whole thing over several weekends.

All-in, it turned out awesome. Photos will be in another thread soon. Floor was done roughly 4 months ago and has seen car/truck traffic over the last 30+ days. Very durable and looks amazing.

 

[Armorpoxy]

Can't wait to see the pics!