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Ventless propane heater?

Soccer918843

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I have a 28x52 with 10’ ceilings I’m thinking of putting a ventless mr heater 30k btu in just during the construction process to finish the interior during the cold winter months here in ny. Do you think that size will even touch the cold and warm it up at all while I’m insulating and finishing ect. Are they safe to use? I would consider one that goes on a propane tank but read u have to leave the door open wouldn’t that defeat the purpose of using a heater and they don’t sound the most safe to me
 
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TractorJeff

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I had a 15K tank mounted in my 30 by 32 while finishing the inside I would turn it on low on Friday night, then turn it up at 5am Saturday morning. It would be about 45 degrees which is OK if you are moving around. I also put a fan behind mine to blow the heat. It helps!
I ended up putting a dehumidifier in there to keep it dry though because it got quite damp.
I ran an electric space heater all the time to keep the dehumidifier warm after the insulation was up. It actually helped and lessened the tank mounted heater usage!
In a big building I would not open a door for ventilation.
 

Randy in Maine

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I did the same thing you are thinking of. The building was up, but the concrete floor and my radiant floor were not poured and installed. I had the propane company drop off a 50 gallon tank outside of my shop. I got a 25 extension hose to hook up to my little 35-70 BTU Mr. Heater.

It worked OK, but was kind of loud and a little stinky. Some moisture from the heat, but that was before my tools and table saw were there. I put a CO monitor out there, but I was SUPER CAUTIOUS about using it.

It allowed me to do my radiant floor and stay warm until the floor got poured in January. I still have the little heater but have not used it since.
 

farmtool

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I have had a couple ventless natgas and propane heaters over the years and every one of them, I thought, made me feel like I needed a vent. I never wanted to fall asleep in the room with one. But I'm more of a wood stove guy anyway so I'm sure my opinion is probably a little biased.
 
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TractorJeff

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Not really farmtool. I was going in and out the doors quite a bit to bring in materials or tools plus taking out debris. I don't understand how ice fishermen can sit in little enclosed spaces with propane heaters all day but they do. One thing I have noticed since finishing my shop (have a Bigg Maxx hanging heater now) is that with Garage doors, you are never truly air tight!
 

Jackfre

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I have sold, trained, operated and supported a few ten of thousand VF htrs over the years. VF heaters are intended as supplemental and are not to be used as a sole source of heat. In USNY, you will be undersized at 30k btu in 1500sq ft. Looking at the Empire sizing guidelines for VF they put you in Zone 5 and give a 750 sq ft capacity on the 30's. Empire makes the best Infra-red and blue flame heaters today. Rinnai makes the finest VF made anywhere in the 824, but it too is undersized for you and you pay for the features.
In your case, during construction you will certainly have ample make-up air. Be aware that if you are doing any painting or refinishing whatever odors are airborne are going to go through the flame and I guarantee that they will come out smelling worse than they went in, much worse.
Are they safe? Yes, when operated properly. You will put moisture in the space when running them. In the cold NY months that is usually not a problem unless they are run in a confined space without proper ventilation. As dry as it get in NY this time of the year you likely will not notice the moisture in that sized space. Another key to success is to keep them clean. Many people get odors out of them due to dust/debris which accumulates on the burner surfaces and especially the pilot assembly. A can of compressed air with the tiny tube blowing straight down the pilot tube will clean the ODS pilot.
 

Rabbit929

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I heat my two stall uninsulated ceiling exclusively with a 60k propane unvented heater. Not all the time, just when I’m using it.
$100 tin can lookin thing from menards.

It works good, but it will make your floors wet by the time it’s 60 degrees F.

Unvented PUMPS a lot of water in the air, I swear every gallon of propane creates 2 gallons of humidity.
If it gets too stinky I burp the door. If we are drinking in the garage I will “prenuke” really good with the unvented heater to get everything in the garage warm an hour ahead of time, dump the stink and heat out the garage door, and run 4 1500watt $10 mill house heaters. Seems to work good but you will notice a bump in the electric bill for that night.

Before everyone burns my on a cross for this, it is temporary as well. Lol
 

wasfuzz

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As Rabbit929 said - LOTS of moisture in the air with unvented!
 
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