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Vessel Dual tone screwdrivers, COO

barrybeefburger

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So, Ive just bought the above because of mention on here, and I was looking for some screwdrivers anyway. I was looking at the COO and on the packaging it is listed as Japan but imprinted on the handle is marked Thailand, what gives?
 
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Sine Swept

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Get the Megadora set (They are Japanese made).

I own the set you're talking about too. Still not bad for the price I ended up paying.
 

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Is the "made in Japan" a sticker added for sale in the US?

I can't comment on the country of origin labeling in other countries, but I can tell you about how it works in the US.

Imported items must be listed with a country of origin. That country of origin can be the place where the last substantial transformation took place.

In your case, blades and handles could be assembled in Japan, then listed as "made in Japan" because that's where the last significant process took place. A Thailand handle and a Japanese blade (or even a blade from another country) could be assembled in Japan and meet the U.S. labeling requirement to be marked as "made in Japan."

It's significantly different when an item is marked "made in the USA." That's regulated by a separate agency and the requirements are much more strict.

Here's some info on the Customs and Boarder Patrol website. They regulate COO markings on imported items:
http://www.cbp.gov/trade/rulings/in...and-methods-marking-country-origin-us-imports
What is the country of origin?

The country of manufacture, production, or growth of the article.

Does altering the article in a second country change the country of origin?


The country of origin of an article may be changed in a secondary country if one of the following occurs:

If the further work or material added to an article in the second country constitutes a substantial transformation. A substantial transformation occurs if a new article with a different name, character, and use is created.
 
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Just got a set at Princess. I thought they were Japan too, but Thailand is stamped on the package and handle.

Cant go wrong for the $10 they were asking though. I didnt need them but I heard they fit JIS better than NA drivers so I figured WTH. First time Ive seen Vessels in PA. Must have been a failure at the $40 they were asking. I wouldnt have paid $40 for them.
 
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My guess is that it's assembled in Japan. Similar to how something can be labeled as "Made in US" when, in reality, it was merely assembled in the US, and they got the parts from different places around the world.
 

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My guess is that it's assembled in Japan. Similar to how something can be labeled as "Made in US" when, in reality, it was merely assembled in the US, and they got the parts from different places around the world.

Your comment isn't accurate.

If an item was "merely assembled in the US, and they got the parts from different places around the world" it would be in violation of the regulations regarding marking an item "made in the USA."

In your scenario, the item would fail the "all or virtually all" test to determine if an item is really made in the USA.

https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/complying-made-usa-standard
What is the standard for a product to be called Made in USA without qualification?

For a product to be called Made in USA, or claimed to be of domestic origin without qualifications or limits on the claim, the product must be "all or virtually all" made in the U.S. The term "United States," as referred to in the Enforcement Policy Statement, includes the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. territories and possessions.

What does "all or virtually all" mean?

"All or virtually all" means that all significant parts and processing that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. That is, the product should contain no — or negligible — foreign content.
 

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My guess is that it's assembled in Japan. Similar to how something can be labeled as "Made in US" when, in reality, it was merely assembled in the US, and they got the parts from different places around the world.

WRONG !

Your comment isn't accurate.

If an item was "merely assembled in the US, and they got the parts from different places around the world" it would be in violation of the regulations regarding marking an item "made in the USA."

In your scenario, the item would fail the "all or virtually all" test to determine if an item is really made in the USA.

https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/complying-made-usa-standard

Thank you for taking the time to try and straighten this guy out.
 
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