Vessel screwdriver bits

[n8n]

Is there anywhere that I can buy Vessel bits inexpensively?

I have the ratcheting screwdriver and the JIS #2 has gone missing of course, but it seems that it's cheaper to buy another whole screwdriver kit from Amazon because shipping is free. Is there anywhere I could buy them? vesseltools.com is $15 minimum shipping to where I am.

 

[ToolPolisher]

I bought a multi pack from Amazon of just JIS #2 and keep two with my Snappy ratcheting screwdriver, two with my 1/4" bit driver(s) and one permanently lives in a Tekton 1/4" adapter. For $10 delivered I don't think you can go wrong.

https://www.amazon.com/VESSEL-Torsion-Insert-PH2X25-4-Carded/dp/B07P9W57FP/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[dnschmidt]

Which explains why Bezos rules the world. Shipping costs have skyrocketed and with Prime there is none. I end up buying stuff from Amazon that's more expensive than other suppliers for the stuff in question simply because the total cost is lower with Prime.

 

[KnurledNut]

@n8n
Is this the Crystaline driver? I didn't think those bits were anything special. They just look like generic S2 bits. Are they marked Vessel?

 

[Max]

@n8n
Is this the Crystaline driver? I didn't think those bits were anything special. They just look like generic S2 bits. Are they marked Vessel?

I have two crystalline drivers and I _think_ that the bits are JIS, or JIS compatible. I’m traveling so I can’t just go in the shop and look at them...

 

[KnurledNut]

I believe the standard Crystaline ratcheting driver is made in Thailand, not Japan. I’m not sure where those bits are sourced. I have never seen them sold individually.
There are three Japanese Vessel bits in a C6.3 insert format that I’m aware of:
-Impact Ball version which is slightly longer at 30mm.
-Neck Torsion version which has their highest 62HRC.
-Standard version with no torsion zone and a little softer HRC to reduce breakage.

 

[n8n]

@n8n
Is this the Crystaline driver? I didn't think those bits were anything special. They just look like generic S2 bits. Are they marked Vessel?

They are marked Vessel P2 but I believe they are JIS, or at least they're superior to any other bit.

 

[n8n]

I bought a multi pack from Amazon of just JIS #2 and keep two with my Snappy ratcheting screwdriver, two with my 1/4" bit driver(s) and one permanently lives in a Tekton 1/4" adapter. For $10 delivered I don't think you can go wrong.

https://www.amazon.com/VESSEL-Torsion-Insert-PH2X25-4-Carded/dp/B07P9W57FP/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I saw those, they just don't have the standard one - what's the point of the "neck torsion" feature and are they functionally equivalent to the standard bits?

 

[American Locomotive]

I saw those, they just don't have the standard one - what's the point of the "neck torsion" feature and are they functionally equivalent to the standard bits?

It looks like it's a feature for impact drivers so they don't beat the screws up as much.

 

[n8n]

It looks like it's a feature for impact drivers so they don't beat the screws up as much.

Should I just buy those then? No downside for hand use?

 

[KnurledNut]

I saw those, they just don't have the standard one - what's the point of the "neck torsion" feature and are they functionally equivalent to the standard bits?

The torsion zone acts as a shock absorber so the bit is less likely to break from repeated blows from powered impact drivers, which in Vessels case allows them to used harder steel to increase tip life.
They aren't completely equivalent to standard bits, but will function just fine for manual use.

 

[four.cycle]

Should I just buy those then? No downside for hand use?

Yes.
and
No.

Currently the best deal on the Vessel bits is from Harry Epstein or Harry Epstein

 

[KnurledNut]

Yes.
and
No.

Currently the best deal on the Vessel bits is from Harry Epstein or Harry Epstein

I personally wouldnt recommend the impact ball bits for the OP's use because they are longer.