Vice grips without slop?
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Parrothead
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That's a long nose Vise Grip...good luck!
I've used a lot of those by different brands and they all have some degree of slop. Even my Peterson USA Vise Grips...so...
I've used a lot of those by different brands and they all have some degree of slop. Even my Peterson USA Vise Grips...so...
ineedtools
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Never seen a long nose without slop, ever.
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Timberjock
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my proto-branded pliers made by gripon I bought recently were very disappointing in that regard.
Timberjock
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That's interesting. Most of mine are older and some are blue with the NAPA insignia and are super tight. Well. SsHhiitte happens.
vssjim
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all my locking pliers are like that especially the long nose ones. they will never be made with a joint that doesn't allow it to be like that.i have never had it cause a problem.
i have all US made vise grips and some other brand US locking pliers and they are all about the same.
i have all US made vise grips and some other brand US locking pliers and they are all about the same.
Wamsutta
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The best locking pliers ever made were the Crescent brand before Danaher bought Cooper Tools. I mean they were absolutely perfect.
Are these from the correct era?
https://frogmantools.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=353
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https://frogmantools.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=353
Mohawk Dave
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Me too...hammer the rivets and body down like Thor.
DerekV
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The Milwaukee ones are really good. Check em out the next time you're at HD.
They certainly do have slop. Not much but it's there.
Wamsutta
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Are these from the correct era?
https://frogmantools.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=353
YES! THOSE ARE AWESOME!
The key feature is the lock and unlock mechanism. The design is leaps and bounds better than ViceGrip and the overall quality is superior.
The issue I had, and it wasn't only on the needle nose type is that under pressure, the body starts to rotate. Now instead of having pressure perfectly aligned, it is offset and can cause all kinds of headaches.
If there was a legit hinge/bearing option instead of folded metal and a pin, I'd buy it.
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Parrothead
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Given the precision you require, I wonder if something other than locking pliers would be a better solution
My favorite locking pliers. I'm glad I was able to get a nice set of them put together before they got hard to find.
HoosierBuddy
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I remember 30 years ago when Car and Driver had their infamous "10 BEST TOOLS" article, Vise Grips were listed as "The only tool designed to fix something that has been FUed beyond repair". But hey...they made the 10 best tool list. Also included were "Big rock by the side of the road" and "2 quarters and a phone booth"...which kind of dates the list now.
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Parrothead
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Don’t get me wrong, I love my Vise Grips and wouldn’t be without them. I probably have a dozen or so in different flavors and varieties.
That said, the OP is talking about twisting them when they are already fastened to the object.
Parrothead
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They’re not any better than the old Peterson Vise Grips, so I don’t think that’s going to do it.
Parrothead
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I know exactly what you’re talking about because I’ve had that same problem, though I can’t remember where or why.
Honestly, I think you’re just SOL.
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Grip-On longnose, a bit off
Facom longnose, Chinese mfr, slightly better
Facom, but not a long nose, French mfr, forged jaws, almost no play whatsoever.
Also having seen the black Taiwanese Stanleys longnose, they're pretty good, maybe even less slop than in the Chinese Facoms.
Another note: the Chinese Facoms are almost exact Grip-On clones, frame-wise, except with nickel plating.
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DerekV
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Milwaukee Torque-lock
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I have 3 pairs and none of them are like that, but congrats?
nynexit
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Thanks, I'll take a look at some of those brands, but also I'll see about examining tools off the shelf to find ones with tighter tolerances.
Even the cheap HF side cutters and needle nose pliers have no slop due to the type of hinge these tools have. I'm curious why there isn't a line of locking pliers that has this kind of joint.
Even the cheap HF side cutters and needle nose pliers have no slop due to the type of hinge these tools have. I'm curious why there isn't a line of locking pliers that has this kind of joint.
Precivilization
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Knipex grip pliers are really good and high quality, but the ones I have all seem to have that slop, not much, but it's there. That never bother me.
The only ones I have with no slop are the French made Facom, and some of the German made Gedore.
Chad toolbox is a good place to start, but it is not cheap.
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The only ones I have with no slop are the French made Facom, and some of the German made Gedore.
Chad toolbox is a good place to start, but it is not cheap.
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ryan20021982
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Proto long nose, rebranded gripon
Not much at all, and there was none the other direction
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Not much at all, and there was none the other direction
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The Facom 500 series is made in France
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=hAnKxGJhEA0
The German company Bollmann churn out grip pliers for many companies including Knipex
http://www.bollmann-selzer.de/produkte/gripzangen/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=hAnKxGJhEA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=hAnKxGJhEA0
The German company Bollmann churn out grip pliers for many companies including Knipex
http://www.bollmann-selzer.de/produkte/gripzangen/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=hAnKxGJhEA0
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Judging by the dent in his thumb it looks like he is pushing on the pliers to create the slop. I like my Milwaukees too
Precivilization
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Judging by the dent in his thumb it looks like he is pushing on the pliers to create the slop. I like my Milwaukees too
Are those US made or chinese?
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Judging by the dent in his thumb it looks like he is pushing on the pliers to create the slop. I like my Milwaukees too
Any pressure you can put on it with your thumb is going to be nothing compared to when it's hanging onto a bolt. I don't think he's trying to make it look worse than it actually is.
Are you doing something that may be done better by a different tool? Like a Kant-twist http://clampmfg.com/kant-twist/ ?
I don't think any locking plier with a sheet metal frame is going to be without slop vs. pliers with a machined frame/hinge. If the locking plier was made with a machined frame and jaws the cost would skyrocket. It may start out tight but the design will loosen up over time.
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I don't think any locking plier with a sheet metal frame is going to be without slop vs. pliers with a machined frame/hinge. If the locking plier was made with a machined frame and jaws the cost would skyrocket. It may start out tight but the design will loosen up over time.
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Grip-on are top-o-the-line for sure.
I don't think they are made by Bahco. Grip-on is in Spain and locking pliers are all they make. Doesn't Bahco make wrenches and some other tools?