Vice
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drivesitfar
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X: hard to say worth when you don't put in location and there isn't a name on the vise. it could be a Chinese import knock off of a Record, Paramo or a few other brands. it looks like it might have a 5 inch wide jaw, but you'd need to measure for us across the top. also what is the weight might help determine if a REAL English vise or a knock off.
it looks like it's in fairly decent shape so could be a nice vise to mount to a stand or bench if you need one.
welcome to GJ and hope you stick around to learn and teach us what you know or have learned.
good luck
it looks like it's in fairly decent shape so could be a nice vise to mount to a stand or bench if you need one.
welcome to GJ and hope you stick around to learn and teach us what you know or have learned.
good luck
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Thank you for your quick responses. I have other photos and will post. I got out the scales and it weighs in at 50lbs. It is 5" across. On the other side it is marked Made in England. I am located in Ontario, Canada.
My Dad cleaned it up and painted it to keep from rusting. It was given to him by an older gentleman so I'm assuming it's an older vise.
Thank you for your quick responses. I have other photos and will post. I got out the scales and it weighs in at 50lbs. It is 5" across. On the other side it is marked Made in England. I am located in Ontario, Canada.
My Dad cleaned it up and painted it to keep from rusting. It was given to him by an older gentleman so I'm assuming it's an older vise.
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drivesitfar
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X: made in England and 50 pounds means that your vise is a solid and older vise. hard to say what it would be worth in your area because I usually only see prices of members bragging how they got such a great deal on this vice or that. down in the US that vice would be worth about $50-100 depending on which part of the U.S.
i'm guessing it is a Record vice, but other makers had a very similar design so without a name on it i'm not sure.
if you don't own a vise that would be a very solid vise to clean up, grease and put to work on your work bench. you can either wire wheel off the old paint and put on BLO (boiled linseed oil) or just paint over it with your favorite color or a Record blue that was fairly common for most of their vices.
good luck
i'm guessing it is a Record vice, but other makers had a very similar design so without a name on it i'm not sure.
if you don't own a vise that would be a very solid vise to clean up, grease and put to work on your work bench. you can either wire wheel off the old paint and put on BLO (boiled linseed oil) or just paint over it with your favorite color or a Record blue that was fairly common for most of their vices.
good luck
My Dad is certain he saw Record on it somewhere. I will take a good look tomorrow. I have a small vise on my workbench in the garage so will most likely try and sell this one. With all the research I have done it looks like most have raised names. Where you would think the name would be on this one has a raised outline but smooth centre. I think I will take your advice about cleaning it and painting.maybe there's a name hiding under the current paint. Thank you again for all your help. 
drivesitfar
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X: post a picture of the other vice and just guessing, but this vice will probably be better and last you a lifetime.
usually Record or the vice company's name is inside that little circle so maybe it was ground off or beat off in the past.
made in England vices are some of the best made vices you can buy usually so if you aren't going to get much money for it i'd also say mount it and keep the other vise because i'm positive there is always a need for more than one vice in a garage or shop. plus if you clean it up and it was your dad's he might smile more than you'll know.
good luck and you're welcome.
usually Record or the vice company's name is inside that little circle so maybe it was ground off or beat off in the past.
made in England vices are some of the best made vices you can buy usually so if you aren't going to get much money for it i'd also say mount it and keep the other vise because i'm positive there is always a need for more than one vice in a garage or shop. plus if you clean it up and it was your dad's he might smile more than you'll know.
good luck and you're welcome.
drivesitfar
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X: over in the general section I just noticed another member is asking for value on his 5 inch Record so check out this thread. also compare your vice to his and you'll see they look the same.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=327002
cheers
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=327002
cheers
drivesitfar
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X: you are very welcome. some of us here at GJ really like vises (vices) and own more than a few. if you want to keep looking for more information about your vise you might want to clean it up and post it on the main vise thread and here's the link.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44782
I read it from start to the first 500 pages a couple times before I joined and I might be the member that posts the most on it. it might be 1500 pages now so unless you LOVE vises reading it all might take you a while. some great vises and information in there though.
also if you ever need to restore or fix a vise I started a thread called Vise Repair 101 that is in the vintage section where a lot of the members have posted their knowledge.
ask questions if you have any and we'll usually try to help if we see it and best of luck with this vise and any others you happen to find.
cheers
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44782
I read it from start to the first 500 pages a couple times before I joined and I might be the member that posts the most on it. it might be 1500 pages now so unless you LOVE vises reading it all might take you a while. some great vises and information in there though.
also if you ever need to restore or fix a vise I started a thread called Vise Repair 101 that is in the vintage section where a lot of the members have posted their knowledge.
ask questions if you have any and we'll usually try to help if we see it and best of luck with this vise and any others you happen to find.
cheers
Wabash
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Wabash
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Thank you for all your interest and help. I have looked at lots of vises online and have seen a few that look like mine. I found two photos of vises like mine (raised circle but no name). The one that's painted said it is a Woden. I believe the other one said it was a Record. I don't think either are correct. I plan to take the old paint off and see what's underneath. One thing for certain, at 50 lbs I won't be moving it around much.
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I finally took photos of the vice I have in my garage. It needs some cleaning as well. While the paint is still good there are areas that are rusted. I'm sorry to say it's been neglected.
Once again, thank you all for your help and input. Hoping to get my garage sorted, peg board up and tools in place. Over the coming months I will be getting my Dad's tools as he no longer uses them. I know he would really be pleased to see my garage in order and tools in their place.
As I am learning about vices I can see the unknown one is a keeper.
Once again, thank you all for your help and input. Hoping to get my garage sorted, peg board up and tools in place. Over the coming months I will be getting my Dad's tools as he no longer uses them. I know he would really be pleased to see my garage in order and tools in their place.
As I am learning about vices I can see the unknown one is a keeper.
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drivesitfar
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X: Dad's vise is superior to your Mastercraft vise. the mastercraft is an import and can't recall if its from Japan, Taiwan or Chinese, but it's not nearly as well made. use it outside or as your welding or vise for tough dirty jobs. the English vise will do maybe 90% of the jobs you have for a vise and just don't use it as an ANVIL or a PRESS. ok?
take all the paint off the English vice and put a few coats of BLO on it. one coat of BLO, let dry, and repeat until you have it covered and not sticky before use. then apply a coat of BLO as needed in a few months or however often you need to.
cheers
take all the paint off the English vice and put a few coats of BLO on it. one coat of BLO, let dry, and repeat until you have it covered and not sticky before use. then apply a coat of BLO as needed in a few months or however often you need to.
cheers
diagnosis
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I'd second the Woden guess, but it's really only based on my own research without any hard evidence as well. I owned a #2 with the same empty oval on it's side, but there wasn't a legible decal left on the front of the dynamic jaw to prove anything. 