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Vintage bead roller help

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I can't figure out what make this is. But I want to get some dies going.

-Throat depth is 12" in the frame.
-Shaft diameter is 28.25 mm

Questions
-Anyone know the make?
-Im assuming this will not fit Pexto dies, or any of the other Popular brands (shafts seem too large from I've read)?
-assuming I can't really purchase other dies, thoughts on turning the shafts down to the same size as pexto? Is that 22mm?
 

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I hate not closing a loop.

Per someone on another forum, this rotary machine is probably a Peck Smith, pre 1867.

I bought it in 2017 b/c I'd researched all the cheap plate steel Bead roller options (like from Eastwood), and then between time and materials to strengthen the frame, and options to put a motor on it (which weren't as prevalent seven years ago), I thought this was worth the effort, especially since anything comparable was thousands of dollars (a Pexto 622 with a 7" throat is $1450)

I was too busy to deal with this at the time, and stashed it in storage. Recently, I had a lull in projects, and coincidentally had to move to a new secondary storage garage, so I decided I might as well finish this project.

  1. I researched and got a Dayton motor
  2. Same, I got a variable speed foot pedal
  3. Found a lovejoy coupling and welded that to the handle (I had to cut the handle off for motorized use, but drilled holes and a welded studs so it can be reattache)
  4. I made a motor bracket out of 1/4" plate, which worked out well from a spacing and existing holes perspective.
  5. When it came to dies, I had zero idea, but I bought an Amazon set for 22mm shafts (thinking this is the least amount of material to remove from each die), and 2.5" centers. What I didn't realize (which is a major advantage) is they sell you a sleeve for the shaft, and all the dies use a set screw on that sleeve.
  6. That was huge, because I only had to machine 2 sleeves to fit my machine, and then all the dies slide on said sleeve.
  7. End result-Works awesome.
  8. Fence is there if I want it for an edge, otherwise remove it.
  9. Throat depth is 14+ inches
  10. The only thing I wish I'd done different is a reverse switch (but I may add that after the fact: probably easy).
My 11 yr daughter even made this, with zero experience.
 
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Very nice! What's your total cost, not including labor?
I think I paid like 100 for the machine +stand (which is why I bought it in the first place), maybe another 100 for the foot pedal and motor, the 110 on the dies. 1/4" plate to mount the motor was a few bucks, but mainly because I didn't feel like cutting up scrap. Hardware was nominal. So, maybe $400? Regardless, anything close to comparable is what, $1500 to $10000?

That said, I couldn't have done the job without a bunch of other tools, like a lathe, drill press/mill, tooling, grinder, etc.
 
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