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archtimb

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I acquired this old compressor about five years ago. Finally got tired of moving it and tripping over it. Decided to rig it up (don't look too closely!) to see if it was worth saving. Originally I was going to restore it and put into service in my hobby shop, but then the place we bought came with a compressor.

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It did not come with a motor so, I was thinking of putting a five horse motor on it originally. But I have a 2 hp Dayton motor with a QD twin pulley already. Myself, I said, good enough to see if it works enough to go further. Adapted that to it for testing it out. It must have sat outside some time before I owned it as the pressure switch and a couple other things are rusty. Got some new belts, rigged up some power and turned it on. Runs quiet. Builds pressure. I replaced the pressure gauge that was broken. As I suspected the pressure switch did not open so it needs that. The switch was rated for 100psi off/80psi on. Also tried to lower the cut out/in pressure but it still did not cycle. I let it build to 110psi before killing the power as it does not have a pressure relief valve (yet). The 2hp motor turns it effortlessly and it even restarts it at working load. I'm impressed as I really expected the 2hp to bog on restart.

Here is where I'm confused. When the motor is de-energized, what I think is the unloader system vents continuously. I have opened the end of the compressor facing the above photo. I can find no information about the company, M&E, nor much information about the unloader system. I think it is a mechanical centrifugal switch. When the compressor is turning it throws out and a pin on the unloader extends and shuts off the air flow. I tested this on the bench with compressed air and it seems to work correctly. In fact, if I power the motor up the air flow stops immediately. This is the unloader vent on the bottom of the round section.

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Now I am lost in the weeds. There are two 1/4"OD lines coming off the head to this contraption. Should one of those have a check valve? I see nothing externally. Would a check valve be part of the head internally? Or am I not even in the right forest, let alone barking up the wrong tree? Anybody familiar with these systems? Modern compressors seem to have taken a different approach to the unloading valve so info seems scarce. If anyone knows more about this system and can make a guess as to the age of this beast I'm all ears.

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At this point the unit seems worth resurrecting. Runs cool and smooth. Low power needs. No leaks evident at this time. And yes, Safety Sam, I do have the belt guard, just not installed while I test things. Yes, wiring will be done properly. I don't want to invest more until it shows that it can be saved. Thanks for reading and I'm looking forward to your feedback.

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mikedodge

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Is there a check valve on the tank? On the last used compressor I got that was gummed up and letting pressure out after it shut down.

Is that a red heeler checking it out?
 

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Disconnect the discharge tube from the tank and inspect the check valve for failure or debris like broken valve springs.
 

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The unloaded is a centrifugal unloaded that unloads the head when the pumps spins down. It continues leaking because the tank check valve is leaking back into the pump. Remove the tank check valve at the inlet to the tank and clean it out or order a replacement.
 

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Have you opened the points and cleaned them with an abrasive stick? Being that long on the shelf, they might simply be welded closed.
 
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archtimb

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Is there a check valve on the tank? On the last used compressor I got that was gummed up and letting pressure out after it shut down.

Is that a red heeler checking it out?
Yep. You nailed it. That check valve had not been off there since 1964! Cleaned it up and it works great now. Thanks.

Also, yes, that's my pain in the a$$ little shadow. Red Heeler. She seems obsessed with machinery. I was afraid she would get into that flywheel pulley. It's scary when she thinks she can take on a backhoe. Anyway, she keeps me smiling. Mostly...
 
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archtimb

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age-wise, likely early 60's. note the postal zone instead of zip code on the address.

that's a weird setup for sure, is it a 2 stage? looking at those discharge tubes on the head.
With researching that unloader I learned more about 1 stage vs. 2 stage. I always thought if it had 2 heads it was a 2 stage. Not true. In fact this is a 2 stage. Piping comes out of one cylinder in a cooling line before going into a smaller 2nd piston to be raised even higher. It then exits into the tank. Pretty cool and makes me want to keep this old beast.

You are correct on the age. I found 2 references to age looking deeper today. The tank was certified in 1964, and the pump casting also has a date of Sept. 1964.
 
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archtimb

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Have you opened the points and cleaned them with an abrasive stick? Being that long on the shelf, they might simply be welded closed.
Yep. Before I fired it up I dug up my old points file and cleaned 'em up. Thanks.

And thanks to all for your help if I did not directly respond to you. Much appreciated! Now it looks like I have another project to finish, instead of a run to the scrap yard!
 
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archtimb

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I have no idea. There is not really any makers mark on the thing. Lot's of numbers and such, and the attached plate. How would I find out?

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Well, damn! I plugged Kellogg American Model 321 into a search engine and this is the first result, top of the page.
This beast is worth more than I thought!
 

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Yea its a Kellogg 321. Good unit but they went outta business years ago. Everything now is a India or Chinese replacement part. The valves are a bear to do, it requires special tools. They aren't really nice enough to rebuild in my opinion once you open them up and see.

I had a 331tv and loved it. But once it needed an overhaul I scrapped it for a Westinghouse.
 

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Yep. You nailed it. That check valve had not been off there since 1964! Cleaned it up and it works great now. Thanks.

Also, yes, that's my pain in the a$$ little shadow. Red Heeler. She seems obsessed with machinery. I was afraid she would get into that flywheel pulley. It's scary when she thinks she can take on a backhoe. Anyway, she keeps me smiling. Mostly...
At least it was a simple fix :)

I know that feeling. I have a blue one.
 

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Just a bit of info, you can run that compressor around 600 RPM with a 2HP motor at 175 PSI. My guess you are running it less than half that right now just by eye balling the pulley sizes and motor RPM. Also many compressors have a minimum recommended RPM, probably for splash lube. Run them too slow and the don't fling enough oil to keep them happy.
 
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