Vintage Craftsman Table Saw

[1973AD]

Good Morning,

So I'm browsing CL this morning and found this CM table saw:

http://hanford.craigslist.org/tls/4014207263.html

I text the guy and he wants $900 and said he paid $1500 and that it's in good shape. Anyone recognize it? I searched Vintage Machinery and the closest I found was a CM 471 Bench Saw.

I've got a Vintage CM drill press (103.23130) and a band saw (103.24280) and was looking to add to my collection.

Am I missing something? Is this really worth $900?

Thanks

 

[Lightfoot]

wow, is he dreaming. If he gave 1500, i've got a lot of tools he needs.

 

[rsanter]

Worth $100 tops IMO

Bob

 

[1973AD]

That's what I was thinking, or it's a total scam, but running a scam on vintage table saws would be odd.

I was going to offer $40, but didn't bother when he mentioned $900.

 

[Voi]

Even if it had the original stand I wouldn't pay anywhere near that. Maybe $150 if I was really stuck on having a Craftsman TS of the same vintage as some of my other tools.

You have a very nice drill press and a solid, light duty band saw. I don't believe the particular TS in your link is as good on a relative scale.

 

[mmack66]

"I'm not sure if it works."

He probably picked it up somewhere for $25.

 

[1973AD]

Voi, thanks for the info.

Collecting these has been more fun than I ever thought.

 

[skippy24]

I was thinking $75 if you just have to have an older Craftsman just for the sake of nostalgia. In my opinion table saws that you plan to use are better off getting a newer model. Newer models include a lot of safety features like riving knives, blade guards, etc. Nothing like having your fingers a few inches away from a spinning blade to keep you honest.

 

[Voi]

Voi, thanks for the info.

Collecting these has been more fun than I ever thought.

LOL. I hear you. I broke my toe last fall and filled my time by buying and selling on Craigslist. Now I have a table saw, drill press, radial arm saw, two vises and three grinders all older than me or even than any living family member in some cases.

 

[d.mcfarland]

I don't believe that table saw was a 103 model. King-Seely was the 103 manufacturer and theirs look a little different than that one..

 

[zkling]

I text the guy and he wants $900 and said he paid $1500 and that it's in good shape. Anyone recognize it? I searched Vintage Machinery and the closest I found was a CM 471 Bench Saw.

Are you sure you have the correct number of 0's behind those numbers? Because that would be the only logical explanation.

If he really paid $1500 for that saw, then well, I weep for the intelligence of humanity. He is either a.) Extremely stupid or b.) A liar. Not sure which is worse, but neither I would want to deal with.

IF he is really asking $900. That is just flat out hilarious. Lord help us if he actually (I really doubt) paid $1500 for it. Did he mention when he paid $1500 for it?

P.S. I love the "not sure if it works"

 

[neophyte]

There was a company in Switzerland that made small stationary power tools under the INCA brand. The tools are still sought after by some woodworkers because they were the top of line or smaller more portable equipment when they were sold in the USA. The first tablesaws they manufactured had tilt tops and were very similar to some older USA made tablesaws, and the INCA design may have been based on the older USA design. The saw I've seen showing the similarities was branded Companion. The design on that craftsman saw is different, but it does appear to function similarly. Maybe the Craigslist seller thinks there's collectible value for the saw. I do think his price is high, especially with the work needed to get in good functional shape. This is what the Companion Table Saw looks like. The Ebay Seller has a slightly lower price on his saw.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ind...ble-Saw-Model-103-2-Rustic-Tool-/370546859505

 

[dlehman604]

Some of the older craftsman table saws are a great value. That looks like a tilt top, which I would avoid. He's definitely got at least one extra zero in his asking price. For getting a good solid saw at bargain prices, I would go for a Craftsman 10" tilting arbor model for the '60s. I would stay away from most of the '70s and later models due to Sears' crapification initiative. You will need to do cleanup, bearings, and adjustments.

 

[neophyte]

Good Morning,

So I'm browsing CL this morning and found this CM table saw:

http://hanford.craigslist.org/tls/4014207263.html

I text the guy and he wants $900 and said he paid $1500 and that it's in good shape. Anyone recognize it? I searched Vintage Machinery and the closest I found was a CM 471 Bench Saw.

I've got a Vintage CM drill press (103.23130) and a band saw (103.24280) and was looking to add to my collection.

Am I missing something? Is this really worth $900?

Thanks

I said it sort of looked like a Companion branded saw. Sears currently uses, or at least has used, the Companion brand for one of its tool lines.

I found a listing on VintageMachinery.org that shows a Companion branded Table Saw that has a Sears Roebuck and Co.-USA plate on it. The model is listed as 103.0205.

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/classifieds/detail.aspx?id=251&p=4

I'm guessing the Craigslist saw would have been a different model 103 model number. The seller on VintageMachinery.org is also asking less than the Craigslist seller.

 

[1973AD]

Thanks for all the info guys. If I could have got it for $40 it would have been worth it, just to have it. By chance someone gave me a Ryobi BT3000 (needs a good cleaning and a couple of parts) which I was going to use for actual wood working until I could afford a decent hybrid saw.

 

[mmack66]

Thanks for all the info guys. If I could have got it for $40 it would have been worth it, just to have it. By chance someone gave me a Ryobi BT3000 (needs a good cleaning and a couple of parts) which I was going to use for actual wood working until I could afford a decent hybrid saw.

That's a pretty good saw, with a large following. They even have their own forum.

http://www.bt3central.com/

 

[toolslinger]

That tiny little craftsman is a toy... I have the Companion badged version in my living room as a side table. If you want a table saw, get one that is bigger than a circular saw turned upside down. Mine cost $25 at an antique store, with a nice little motor. They're nothing special, Sears sold them under a few different nameplates for a heck of a long time.

 

[d.mcfarland]

Keep looking though .. the 1950s and 60s Craftsman machines are abundant and the people that own them are getting rid of them as they get older. The old ones are cheaper and better than a brand new one from the big box stores.

 

[softailgarage]

The guy is smoking crack if he wants that kind of money. I buy and restore Craftsman table saws, in Calif. that would go for no more than 75.00, I wouldn't pay that, but thats as high as I've seen them listed. Stick with the 103.xxxxx or 115.xxxxx models (King Seeley & Emerson) they're bullet proof, will last forever, great for home use and small& portable, but big enough to getr done.

 

[scw1991]

$50 on a good day just because it's got a fence and miter gauge. Perhaps it's pesos instead of USD $

 

[Outlawmws]

It's not quite a toy, but it is a tilting table saw which adds a whole new level of entertainment when using them.

I have one similar to that one and for simple ripping of long thin boards, and for making small parts/cuts in some ways its a handier size of saw, BUT it has virtually NO safety features so you'd best be on your game using it. We just used mine (late 30's; 8" blade tops; TINY table) for ripping fence boards into 3/4" strips. It worked but was defiantly a 2 person job. One feeding; one out-feed handling

 

[scw1991]

tilty saws are cumbersome to use as the table raises instead of the blade. Thus trying to use an outfeed table is near impossible. Doing angled cuts is a recipe for disaster unless you are using a jig/fixture. That saw is more of a conversation piece than anything IMHO.

 

[Rifleman61]

Hi. New here. I have a 103.22161 TS, if interested. I'm in Dayton, Ohio.