Vintage Craftsman Table Saws

[Bert_]

Ok here’s some poor photos of my recent $50 pick up. It’s interesting because it is mounted to this stamped base. I haven’t seen this type of base before. You guys seen this before? I’m guessing late 40’s based on the early king seeley logo. Saw is an 8” saw and I am looking for a 10” so this one will get moved along to a new home. I’m not above parting the saw so if someone sees something you need let me know!

Craftsman model 103.23832

I've got the same saw. Picked up 10+ years ago. It's done everything I've asked of it.

Mine does not have those nice table extensions and has a different base.

 

[jbltwin1]

Kind of curious what you use for the greenish tint blue on the main body. I went through my old chip catalogs and time pegged it to a 1953 Studebaker truck, I think. Of course, that's not the name they would have used but the color looks the closest I've seen. Honestly, I thought I'd get a quart of Rust royal blue and some green and tint it. UNLESS you come up with something better. this isn't really a restoration, just painting up dads saw that I got years ago. Great saw and it's still cranking. It's a 113.298240. My basement saw is Craftsman also, but newer. Probably around 1982 or so. Belt drive, but about the time they had those cable driven things.

 

[shoot summ]

Ok here’s some poor photos of my recent $50 pick up. It’s interesting because it is mounted to this stamped base. I haven’t seen this type of base before. You guys seen this before? I’m guessing late 40’s based on the early king seeley logo. Saw is an 8” saw and I am looking for a 10” so this one will get moved along to a new home. I’m not above parting the saw so if someone sees something you need let me know!

Craftsman model 103.23832

Someone always needs the tilt/raise/lower gears...

Very cool setup, there are a couple listed on VM

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=19366

Photo Index - Sears | Craftsman - 103.23832 | VintageMachinery.org

 

[Smokeshow69]

Someone always needs the tilt/raise/lower gears...

Very cool setup, there are a couple listed on VM

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=19366

Photo Index - Sears | Craftsman - 103.23832 | VintageMachinery.org

Thanks for posting those! Cool little saw for sure. I might just see if someone local wants to buy it once I mount the motor correctly and clean the top.

 

[Bert_]

Someone always needs the tilt/raise/lower gears...

Very cool setup, there are a couple listed on VM

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=19366

Photo Index - Sears | Craftsman - 103.23832 | VintageMachinery.org

I could believe that. I try to be careful with mine but the raise/lower/tilt mechanism is often stiff and needs help.

I hung a chunk of iron on the motor to keep more belt tension.

 

[Cruzan80]

I could believe that. I try to be careful with mine but the raise/lower/tilt mechanism is often stiff and needs help.

I hung a chunk of iron on the motor to keep more belt tension.

IIRC, it is more that sawdust tends to build up and get trapped in the gears, based on location, rather than simply stiff by nature. Then people try and "force" it, resulting in the stripped gears.

 

[Bert_]

IIRC, it is more that sawdust tends to build up and get trapped in the gears, based on location, rather than simply stiff by nature. Then people try and "force" it, resulting in the stripped gears.

I've cleaned it. Works better for a little bit, then back to stiff. I just take it easy and help the blade if needed.

 

[shoot summ]

I could believe that. I try to be careful with mine but the raise/lower/tilt mechanism is often stiff and needs help.

I hung a chunk of iron on the motor to keep more belt tension.

The combined setup for tilt/raise/lower was the issue with those saws, and the small arbor size. Still a pretty decent saw though.

 

[Bert_]

The combined setup for tilt/raise/lower was the issue with those saws, and the small arbor size. Still a pretty decent saw though.

I have some spacers for the blades. That has never been a problem.

I had trouble with the arbor pulley. It spun on the shaft and cut a groove in it. I cleaned it up best I could and jb welded the pulley onto the shaft.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Got some light reading material in the mail today! I’m loving the accessories page. Dated 1962

 

[Smokeshow69]

Well I couldnt resist the call of the sirens today. This saw had been listed in an agricultural town about 1/2 hour away from me. It's another 8" saw and I was less than stoked at first. It had a ton of accessories shown in the pictures but today when I went back to look at the photos again I accidently bumped one of the photos and turns out it was a video. Well, it pays to watch until the end of the video because when I saw that it included the era correct articulating tool light, I had to hop on it! Paid $40 but it will tide me over until I find a nice 10" power bronze to match my heritage power bronze dp. Motor is dated L2 53 and based on the colors and other things on the saw I certainly dont doubt this is probably the original set up! The seller said he got it from his father who got it from a family member

Model 103.22160

Includes both wings
optional blade guard- specific only to this size of 80 series saw
square tool stand with roller wheels
owners manual
sanding disks
fence and miter gauge
dado stack
power panl
moulding blade

All in all I'm pretty excited ! It will get some love and get put to work!

 

[Provincial]

Manufacturer's code 103. is Sarlo Power Mower, Inc.

If this company, which was founded in 1935, is the same, it still exists:

https://www.rurallifestyledealer.com/articles/264-florida-mower-maker-sarlo-celebrating-75-years

 

[Cruzan80]

Manufacturer's code 103. is Sarlo Power Mower, Inc.

If this company, which was founded in 1935, is the same, it still exists:

https://www.rurallifestyledealer.com/articles/264-florida-mower-maker-sarlo-celebrating-75-years

103 code is King Seeley, a major manufacturer of Craftsman power tools...

 

[Provincial]

103 code is King Seeley, a major manufacturer of Craftsman power tools...

I was quoting the list from the Antique Small Engine Collector's Club, and also the one that was posted on Vintage Machinery years ago. Apparently, the VM list has been updated since I copied it! I'll have to delete the pdf on file and just use their link in the future.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I was quoting the list from the Antique Small Engine Collector's Club, and also the one that was posted on Vintage Machinery years ago. Apparently, the VM list has been updated since I copied it! I'll have to delete the pdf on file and just use their link in the future.

No worries. It’s easy to get mixed up. Here is the logo on the first saw I found 2 weeks ago. I think Sears told them to tone it down and then they went to the full heritage badge.

 

[Provincial]

It is interesting that Sears reused the 103 number. I wonder if there is more to the story? Since King-Seeley started supplying Sears a few years before Sarlo was formed, there would have to have been an overlap for the number.

Perhaps someone made a typo when making up the list, and it got disseminated that way? Does anyone know of a Sears mower with a 103.------ tag on it?

 

[Cruzan80]

O is it possible it was the other way around? King Seeley stopped mid 60-70's(?) when it changed into Emerson 113. Maybe the mowers were after that changeover?

 

[RTM]

It is interesting that Sears reused the 103 number. I wonder if there is more to the story?

There are several duplicate numbers on the list, I think Sargent and White share numbers with other companies

Just looked, and lots of duplicates on low numbers, but not in similar categories.

 

[WillyBoy]

Going back to post #24 from January, the miter slots in the table make it look like a 113.27610. Too bad the model number tag on the back is missing. That model lasted less than a year. It wasn't one of Emerson's best ideas. The left miter slot was closer to the blade and could result in the miter gauge getting an inadvertent slot cut in it.

To know more accurately, the 27610's had a pinned on arbor flange and a full and very heavy casting for the cradle. Of all the ones I've worked on from that era, my personal favorite is the 113.27520.

.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Speaking of my recent pickup, of course in my nerdiness I had to find the power tool catalog from that year because of course, reading the 1955 catalog I already have isn’t the same . I found this one on eBay and look what’s on the cover! The exact same saw with a lot of the same accessories! I wonder if my saw was one put together at the store to mimic the cover as a floor display model?

 

[NormWoodworker]

I would like to restore a vintage Craftsman table saw. What are your thoughts on the Facebook marketplace ad below?

craftmans saw

See pictures for details. Cash only Pick up only - Corona 1 horse power

www.facebook.com

 

[Smokeshow69]

Picked up this NOS saw miter stop/ hold down mechanism off ebay for about $25 shipped. Slightly newer than what I would have liked but when I saw it was NOS, I couldnt resist. Booklet is dated '65 so probably could date to '66-'69??

 

[StillTooManyHobbies]

For anybody in the Washington DC area looking for one of the Craftsman pedestal table saws, check this out.

Plumber’s Paradise: Tools, pipes, wood +... starts on 1/4/2025

View information about this sale in Alexandria, VA. The sale starts Saturday, January 4 and runs through Sunday, January 5. It is being run by Sterling Estate Sales.

www.estatesales.net

Not mine, just an ad I saw this morning.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Ohh that’s gonna be good for someone!