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BreeStephany

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Over the last couple of years, I have started acquiring a variety of older / vintage Skil tools. My first tool was a blue label Skil 127 12" wormdrive saw which I picked up more as a conversation piece originally due to its massive saw, but once it was in my hands, I truly admired the beauty and craftsmanship of old tools. From there, I stumbled upon a Skil 100 planer, which got me hooked on vintage tools and got me started on tool restoration. I have since acquired a Skil 67,77,825 and 127 wormdrive saw, as well as a Rockwell 653 versa plane for my personal collection, as well as a Skil 107 and 127 which I restored for a friend.

I am still on the lookout for an original, unmodified Skil 117 wormdrive dado saw and am also looking for a Skil 107 10" wormdrive, but I have found both of these saws very difficult to come by. The Skil 117 and modified equivalents were banned by OSHA in the late 70's / early 80's because of their design and their tendency of kick back and skating out of cuts.

The Skil 107 was the in-between of the common 8-1/4" wormdrive and Skil's 127 and I don't really think the size really caught on enough for it to become 'common'. Many of those that were out there were often modified into wide dado saws for gang cutting rafters, due to their power and smaller frame.

Below is an overview of my current collection.

View media item 61323From left to right is a soon to be restored Rockwell 653 Versa Plane, a restored Skil 100 7.5A planer, a Skil 67 6-1/2" wormdrive, a restored Skil 77 7-1/4" wormdrive, a Skil 1/2" impact wrench, a original Skil 77 7-1/4" wormdrive, a original Skil 825 8-1/4" wormdrive and a Skil 127 12" wormdrive.

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View media item 61325My most recent of projects, a restored Skil 77 7-1/4" wormdrive. At the time of taking this picture, I was still working on the painting the side plate, but beyond that, its done. I ripped it down, gave it a VERY thorough cleaning (it was absolutely PACKED in sawdust to the point that I had to take scrub the field with mild solvent and a toothbrush just to get the inside of the field clean, replaced the bearings & seals, brushes and cord and gave it a new coat of paint. The hardware was in pretty decent shape and a lot of it I couldn't readily find stainless replacements for, so I decided against completely replacing all of the hardware with stainless.

View media item 61326The tool that got my restoration work started. A fully restored Skil 100 Type 4 7.5A 3" plane. I replaced all of bearings, belt and brushes, powder coated the body, repainted the label, replaced all of the screws & hardware with new stainless hardware, sharpened the blades and put a new cord on it. A bit of an investment, but pretty sure it will last my lifetime and hopefully someone else's.

View media item 61327My most recent of finds. A Rockwell 653 10A Versa Plane. I picked this one up the day before I took the picture, so I haven't done much with it yet, but the plan is to do a thorough cleaning on it, put in new bearings, belt and brushes, replace all of the hardware with stainless steel hardware, polish of the body, replace the cord and sharpen the blade a bit. The labels are in great shape, so there is no reason to touch them.

View media item 61328A Skil 67 6-1/2" wormdrive saw. I am a bit on the fence about what to do with this one besides using it. Its in great shape and has seen little use compared to some of my other saws. At this point, all I have done with it is gave it a good cleaning, inside and out, and tuned the brushes. It runs great and is actually a great balance of weight and size. Its not great as a stud saw, but I love it for cutting sheeting in the field.

View media item 61329A restored Skil 77

View media item 61330Another Skil 77. This one is in rough shape on the outside, but is extremely mechanically sound. I ripped it down, cleaned it out, put a new cord on it, replaced the brushes and started using it. I am in the process of matching color for the side label and will paint the side label, but beyond that, I don't think I will do much with it. The previous owner definitely abused the saw as guard had a bit of a wobble in it, which caused it to contact the blade, and it was run until it literally wore right through the front corner of the guard.

Because of its overall condition, I likely will keep it around as a backup saw / future parts saw and will use it as a stone saw out in the field every once and a while, but beyond that, don't really see any reason for improvements beyond eventually replacing the bearings and seals when they get close to going out.

View media item 61331A Skil 825 8-1/4" wormdrive saw. This is likely going to be my next project after I restore my versa plane. I have cleaned it up and put new brushes and a new cord on it and put it back into use, but I will likely do a full restoration on it eventually.

View media item 61332My first vintage handheld power tool. A monsterous Skil 127 12" 20A wormdrive saw. Out of all of the old wormdrive saws I have bought, this one is by far the best in regard to condition. When I bought it, I feared it would need a massive amount of restoration, as it was practically black, but as soon as I got it home, I found out that it was nothing more than just a bit of oil and dirt coating an almost 'mint' saw. Most of the paint is in great shape and mechanically its in excellent condition.

Its not my go-to saw unless I am cutting large dimensional lumber for 2 reasons, the first being that it weighs in at over 40lbs and the second that I have to use a CNC mill to cut out a diamond in the blades, as there are no common 12" blades with a diamond knockout.

For full sized images, you can go to http://imgur.com/a/aMCsN
 
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Those are some beautiful tools. Thanks for sharing.

Post plenty of before - during - after pics of your upcoming projects. That's an order btw. ;)
 

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Its not my go-to saw unless I am cutting large dimensional lumber for 2 reasons, the first being that it weighs in at over 40lbs...

:shocking: Holy ****!

Very cool collection.

Too bad the Skil name has been so devalued; in Canada it's now used at Crappy Tire to sell the shittiest quality of hand tools - screwdrivers, tape measures, pliers, etc.! :mad:

Just look at this "tool box"!

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BreeStephany

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just another sad example of what's happened to so many of the once-great brands.
It definitely does sadden me to see how far Skil has slipped from the once quality brand over the years.

The only thing Skil has going for them anymore, and pretty much the only reason the name remains in the construction industry is that they have done little to change the Skil 77 mechanically in the past 77 years.
 

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The only thing Skil has going for them anymore, and pretty much the only reason the name remains in the construction industry is that they have done little to change the Skil 77 mechanically in the past 77 years.


Very true. And very odd!

The Skil wormdrive is still the best such tool available; the rest of the line is lower-end even for DIY stuff...
 
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BreeStephany

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The Skil wormdrive is still the best such tool available...

I actually prefer my Bosch wormdrive over the Skil 77, as its handle seems to be a lot more comfortable to hold, comes standard with a rafter hook and has direct connect, so you can connect your extension cord directly into the saw, but the only reason I chose Bosch's comfort and features over Skil is because they are essentially the same saw with a different handle.

Bosch acquired Skil in 1991 and developed upon the Skil 77 design to make their wormdrive. They use the same shoe, gear case, worm gears, bearings, motor, brushes, switch and motor housing. The only parts they use that aren't essentially Skil are the upper blade guard assembly, the rafter hook, the handle and the forward handle.
 
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Where did you get a blade for your 67 ? I thought it was supposed to take a 6 inch with a diamond knock out.

Here is mine....
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BreeStephany

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Where did you get a blade for your 67 ? I thought it was supposed to take a 6 inch with a diamond knock out.

The 67 will fit a 6-1/2" blade. I have a Freud Diablo 6-1/2" 40 tooth that I use for plywood and a 20 tooth that I use for studs, both of which have diamond knockouts .
 
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The Skil 100 planer is favored by surfboard shapers and very valuable.
 

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Its not my go-to saw unless I am cutting large dimensional lumber for 2 reasons, the first being that it weighs in at over 40lbs and the second that I have to use a CNC mill to cut out a diamond in the blades, as there are no common 12" blades with a diamond knockout.
Is it heavy? Yes. Then it must be expensive... put it down.
 

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Nice collection and nice resto work, Bree. Please tell us about it and where you got parts. I am especially interested in the cords and rewiring, but did you know someone in interwebzland makes OEM-look three-prong cords. I saw their site a long time ago but you'd have to search for them as I don't have that bookmark anymore.

I just bought this ca early 80s Milwaukee 6373 wormdrive. I spent some time going through it and I think since it is in such great shape I'll leave it mostly as is. The shoe was warped a (very) little bit, and so with trying to bend it back with no luck and nothing found in searches for shoe repair, I did some minor grinding. I didn't even go down 1/32" at the deepest. The cord was nicked so I put some liquid tape as filler and used self-seal lectric tape to repair. Probably sacrilege leaving it that way to you!
 

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Nice collection for sure. Pure coincidence, but I saw a 127 in a pawnshop today. I didn't pull it off the shelf (it just looks heavy!) so I don't know how it runs, etc. I know it's not much to go on, but what would be a ballpark value? I might go back and look closer at it.
 
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BreeStephany

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Nice collection for sure. Pure coincidence, but I saw a 127 in a pawnshop today. I didn't pull it off the shelf (it just looks heavy!) so I don't know how it runs, etc. I know it's not much to go on, but what would be a ballpark value? I might go back and look closer at it.

The price of the Skil 127, or any vintage tool all depends on condition, completeness and originality. For a running Skil 127 which is complete, original and in marginal / decent condition (paint can be trashed but no cracks, dents or MAJOR dings & table is almost true or true) can go anywhere from $200 ~ $300 locally. I have seen them go as low as $150 on ebay, but that is usually because the shipping for the saw is generally between $50 ~ $70.

Great condition - $350 ~ $450

Ignore the condition of the cord, paint, screws, etc. as these are all easily replaced. The most important thing is that the gears are strong, the motor is strong (quick starting and consistent speed) and the switch is in good condition (when the switch feels soft, doesn't click hard, or doesn't click at all, its a good sign of excess wear on the switch) as these are difficult, if not next to impossible to find replacements for.

The seals and bearings for many of the Skil wormdrives are easily sourced through bearing shops, as they are fairly common sizes.

A great place to source brushes is through Eurton Electric.
 
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I know a few people on here have asked about brush and cap sizes for the older Skil saws.

For Skil 67 - 6-1/2" worm drive saws, the replacement brush caps are Eurton 1430-CAP and the replacement brushes are Eurton 668 brushes.

For Skil 77 & 825 - 7-1/4" & 8-1/4" worm drive saws, the replacement brush caps are Eurton 700-CAP and the replacement brushes are Eurton 281 brushes.

For Skil 107 & 127 - 10" & 12" worm drive saws, the replacement brush caps are Eurton 840-CAP and the replacement brushes are Eurton 419 brushes.
 

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This still runs very strong.
 

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Are you vaporblasting the aluminum housings or painting them? Whatever it sure looks good!

I completely disassemble the tools to bare components, mask all interior and joining surfaces and then work on removing all oil, dirt, debris, etc. that have collected on the tools over the years.

I generally use Rustoleum 7271 metallic silver enamel paint, you can get it in a rattle can or by the quart for spraying. I start with a deep cleaning to remove all grease and other contaminants, then strip the old paint off with a wire wheel, spraying with 2 ~ 3 coats of automotive primer to give a good smooth base, lightly sand if necessary and then spray with 2 ~ 3 lighter coats of paint and then finish it with a light coat or two of Rustoleum enamel automotive clear coat.
 
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HEY friend > I collect old electric saws too ........ Here are a few of mine
 

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DMR,

Are some of your saws restored or are they all in original condition? Really nice collection. I have always eyed Black & Decker's 8" lectro-saw... they are truly a gorgeous tool.
 
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Heres a few more pics
 

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All 100% originals , un-restored and all operational .... Just did some light cleaning to a few of them ..... Quite a rare bunch of saws in my collection
 

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Nice tools!

I had a bad day with ebay and feel like passing along some good karma to you folks who restore old Skill saws. I have a (probably) 70s era Skill 534 6-1/2 circular saw. It weighs about 9 lbs. Nothing really special except that it was my dad's so I keep it around. Just plugged it in and it still runs, pretty good, actually. I think it's missing a return spring on the blade guard. Looked on ebay and there is a couple with asking prices of between $50 and $125. If any of you folks who restore old Skil saws wants it, I'll send it to you free if you agree to post up a pic after its restored. I'll even cover shipping!

Send me a pm with your address if interested. Thanks!
 

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I've got this old Skil circular saw that's a pukey off-pink color. Still cuts wood well. had to replace all the bronze bushings some years ago. Were still available and fairly easy to replace - except the back end press in. :mad:
Also have a Skil corded drill in 3/8" drive. Grey polycarbonate case. Still has the original sticker on the handle, "Lifetime "No time limit" guarantee". Gotta love it.

If I can get some pics I'll post them.
 

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@ Bree - Thanks for taking the time to do the write up. I am in a similar position to you in that I am collecting the blue label Skilsaw line and using them on the modern jobsite.

I have two questions. 1) How do you deal with the lack of a blade guard retraction handle on the early skilsaws. I can get by but I do find it annoying. I am contemplating having something fabricated in order to get around it. 2) Have you considered bringing the the finish to a high shine instead of painting. Thanks!
 

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Wow, good for you guys. Think anyone will show off their vintage cordless tools someday ?
 

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Nice tools!

I had a bad day with ebay and feel like passing along some good karma to you folks who restore old Skill saws. I have a (probably) 70s era Skill 534 6-1/2 circular saw. It weighs about 9 lbs. Nothing really special except that it was my dad's so I keep it around. Just plugged it in and it still runs, pretty good, actually. I think it's missing a return spring on the blade guard. QUOTE]

The 7 1/4 version is my favourite saw. It's balance is perfect for plywood. The guard always bends, so yours might just need a straightening.
 

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Nice tools!

I had a bad day with ebay and feel like passing along some good karma to you folks who restore old Skill saws. I have a (probably) 70s era Skill 534 6-1/2 circular saw. It weighs about 9 lbs. Nothing really special except that it was my dad's so I keep it around. Just plugged it in and it still runs, pretty good, actually. I think it's missing a return spring on the blade guard. QUOTE]

The 7 1/4 version is my favourite saw. It's balance is perfect for plywood. The guard always bends, so yours might just need a straightening.

Are you referring to the 537?

I love the gold old 6 1/2 534, it sounds mean! Don't know about the 537, never run one before
 

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I wonder if this will work. (Just registered.) I wonder if anyone is still alive on this thread. If so, anybody seen a Skilsaw Model 107? Old as the hills and 30 pounds without its 10'' blade. Doesn't run and a superficial repair attempt didn't help. Anyone got parts?

thanks!
gary
 
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