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martell06

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I'm picking up this tire machine on Friday for $60. It's the blue one. I plan on fixing it up and repainting it. Another guy is asking 375 for the red one. Anybody know anything about these? Year? Make?? Any help would be appreciated.
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I'll second Bishman as well. A good deal for $60.
Operation is similar to Coats and other center-post machines. Coats made a similar model in the 50s-60s.
 

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That is really nothing more than a powered bead breaker. You still have to fight a set of tire irons to get the tire dismounted.
 

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I had one of the coats models in red in the early '80's. It was a PITA to get the tie on / off the rim. Just a powered bead breaker like JBullfrog said.

I wouldn't use it for other than factory painted steel rims, it is rough on the rim to break the bead.
 

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The one in the photo has a powered center post...just like a 20/20 or 30/30 without the extra shrouding and inflation blaster.

It is not a manual machine.
 
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that's what i thought. the seller said it works w/ no leaks. i'll post up some better pics this weekend after i pick it up.

do any of you guys know which are the correct colors? i'd like to clean it up and repaint it. the one i'm getting is the blue one and i can't find any pics other than the red one. thanks for the info guys, really appreciate it.
 
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wilbilt said:
The one in the photo has a powered center post...just like a 20/20 or 30/30 without the extra shrouding and inflation blaster.

It is not a manual machine.

I would bet it is more like the 10/10 which only has 1 stage of center shaft rotation. The later models can be feathered. We have an old 10/10 that used to change 10 hay rack tires every day. It will break your arm when the dismount iron snaps around if you don't know enough to not hold on to it.

WATCH YOUR TEETH AND DO NOT REACH ACROSS THE MACHINE EVER!
 

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Jbullfrog said:
I would bet it is more like the 10/10 which only has 1 stage of center shaft rotation. The later models can be feathered.
That may be true. One can learn to "tap-dance" on the pedal, but safety is always a concern.

Knowing when to hold the bar and when not to is an acquired skill.
 

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Mine was blue, but it might be the kind of thing that was made in a few colors. Paint it the color you like....... it is yours to do with as you please, and I will say for certain that the authenticity police won't be visiting your garage any time soon:bounce: .
 

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martell06 said:
can someone enlighten me as to what the numbers mean?
Hell, I worked in tire shops for 20 years and I don't know what the numbers mean. They progressively got higher as the years went on and the features grew.

As far as the "tap dance" goes...most "modern" center post changers incorporate a "feathering" feature, where the post can be controlled via foot pedal pressure. If you are halfway through the cycle, you can hold the bar in position, by releasing some pressure from the pedal. It won't advance, and it won't return as long as that level of pedal pressure is maintained.

On older models, the pedal control was more of an off/on control. It either cycled forward full speed, or it was in the return mode. Some level of control can be obtained by rapidly pressing the pedal on/off ("dancing"). Every machine has a different "feel", and familiarity with any given machine requires some warmup or practice time.

Holding the bar...this can go both ways. If one holds the bar tightly, any sudden rotation can cause painful results. On the other hand, setting the bar on the post, letting go of it, and mashing the pedal is just as bad, if not worse. I have transported at least three noob tire guys to the ER as a result. Head injuries, as I recall. Big eggs on their foreheads and shiners for weeks.

Knowing when to hold the bar or let go is a result of experience. Your hand can feel the tension, and it should communicate this through your brain to the foot on the pedal. Hard to explain, but it works.
 
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