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Vintage Tool Tips?

cptzippy

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There are some tools I'd like to upgrade and think of going the vintage route to fill the needs. I have a good idea of where to find them - flea markets, yard sales, pawn shops etc. What I don't know is what to look for. Is there a thread somewhere or can someone tell me what brands, what condition, etc to look for?


My priorities are tool box and pliers but tips on other tools would be appreciated.
 
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Lump

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Shoot, many of us on here have those vintage tools sitting around waiting for you...especially boxes and pliers. There are many, many good brands. But keep in mind that the majority of vintage US tools will be fractional sizes, so when you're looking for sockets, wrenches, etc; older US tools will usually not be metric, which is what you need to work on just about any modern vehicles.

Craftsman and SK are 2 wonderful brands which are still current in the market, fairly cheap to buy, and fairly easy to get replaced under warranty. Wright, Williams, Bonney, Herbrand, Billings, Fleet, Sparta, Wards, Proto, JC Penney (& Penncraft) Walden, Wizard, and literally dozens of "Made in the USA" tools are easy to find out there. And of course, there are the "truck brands" of extreme high quality tools, like Mac, Snap-On, Matco, and Cornwell. They are quite expensive when new, and most technicians buy them on credit from the tool-truck man. Yet they have been produced for many decades, and they can occasionally be found used...but LOTS of guys are shopping for them, so get there early! Then there are fine European tools too, like Hazet, etc.

For pliers, most of us have deep respect for Channellock, Knipex, Klein, Vise Grips (with Petersen logo on the side), and all the brand names listed above.

I must have 15 or 20 extra tool boxes, and at least 100 sets of pliers. And so do lots of other GJ members. What specifically are you looking for, and where are you located? (Shipping cost can be a big part of your investment, so if you are located near a member with lots of extra tools, it can be a big help.)
 
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cptzippy

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I'm in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas for now. As far as what I'm looking for, not sure on the pliers beyond a better set of needle nose. There seems to be so many types and variations. I'm about to medically retire from the Army so don't know where I'll end up - probably back in west Texas/Panhandle. Box I'll probably look for after that and not as picky about form.

ETA: Oh, I'm pretty good on metric wrenches and sockets so good there. Mostly looking at working on out two cars - '07 Acura and '94 Jag.
 

JimDon

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Jes-- Chr---,
You're in Fort Leavenworth? What the heck are you doing looking for vintage used. Why don't you look for Vintage NEW? Head right on over to Harry Epsteins, ask for Jori, tell him I sent you and have him show you around. Pick up some nice new Bonney stuff, some Vise Grips, some Vaco, some brand new Wright off one of the display boards, and don't forget a Kennedy box off the shelf in the front of the store. Then have him show you one of those little flashlights that plug into your cigarette lighter.
There ya go! Get the Wilde pry bars that they sell too.
Cheers,
JimDon

If'n you're really brave, have him show you the dungeon, err, basement where a lot of the boxes haven't even been categorized yet.
 

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You have heard: LOCATION,LOCATION,LOCATION well to a tool collector like myself it is CONDITION,CONDITION,CONDITION. Don't get me wrong rusty tools are great but I want to show & display at least nice looking tools so keep your eyes open for those old tools in nice condition.

People sometimes get caught up in the name of the tool company but some of the best looking collections that I have seen always had a theme keep that in mind.

Sometimes if the tool is very rare and it is rusty don't pass it up because it might be 20 years before you ever run across it again.

Hope that helps you out.
 

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Just remember a few hard-learned lessons:

1. Anything can be anywhere. I was at a yard sale, mostly kid toys, clothes, junk, but there was a new Martin 1-1/2" combination wrench which I picked up for $5. The woman running the sale had no idea how they came to have it.

2. You aren't marrying used tools. You can always trade up later. If it looks interesting, buy it. Later, if you don't use it, don't like it, find a brand you like better, then have your own garage sale.

3. Ask your friends and relatives to watch for tools for you. Many scouts find many opportunities you'd never see.

4. Early and often. Check craigslist three times a day. Have cash on hand and the truck pointed down the driveway. The steal deals go to those who are ready.

5. Buy sets. You'll waste much time and effort and pay more in the end trying to piece together sets of older, less common US brands.

jack vines
 
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Bruce Lancaster

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Very good summary, but I'd put #5 on there several times!
Also, invest in a gallon or two of Evaporust, which will make moderately rusted and chipped tools look like new with NO destruction of anything but rust and practically no effort.
 

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Don't buy anything you don't realistically expect to use. I can't believe some of the complete garbage people buy. Buckets of rusty sockets & cheap **** screwdrivers? give me a break..
 

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Don't buy anything you don't realistically expect to use. I can't believe some of the complete garbage people buy. Buckets of rusty sockets & cheap **** screwdrivers? give me a break..

Yup, I would tend to agree with that. Even when buying a used tool in the "heat of the moment," elbowing and climbing over piles of other garage sale buyers, when I get home and look through the stuff, I often ask myself, "why did I buy that?"

Knowing that other people aren't going to buy something in my online store I am starting a "dollar bucket" reserved for a future garage sale of my own. :)

Steve
 

bobby1

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goin through and reading some of th old tool stuff are there any sites that give online catalogs or such to identify i know i could look but wanted to what some off you use for instance i cleaned some old tool finds the other day one i can remember is marked williams next to the open end and in the middle of the handle is marked mack don't need price guides just so good info
 

MrRocket

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Yard sales and flea markets are the thing around here, and of course Craigslist. Good suggestions and advice.
I grew up in Leavenworth Ks....very curious about Harry Epstein and how a guy could by new vintage tools. Might take a road trip soon. Where is this place located?
 

rusty65

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My only tip not covered yet is don't get involved with ratchets you start with one and end with 40.
 
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