Vise / bench Grinder Mounting

[Cudajas]

I have a 10 x20 garage, yes its small, and only a 4x2 bench, yes its small, but I did not want to go bigger in my small space.

I want to be able to use a bench grinder and vice from time to time, but I do not want to mount either to the bench permanently (remember its small).

I saw this pic and thought the idea would work out well:



Do you think I am nuts, or could this work. Will the bench grinder vibrate the bench and make it unusable.

My plan to store both the vice and grinder when not in use, is to mount either a doubled up 3/4 inch piece of plywood (or a 2x4) to the wall (in the studs) and mount 3/8 inch bolts in that to hang the mounting boards from.

Do you see any issues with this. What size screws should I use to attach the hanging mount to the wall?

Thanks,

Jason

 

[MFolks]

If you can mount the grinder on a sheet of rubber, it will greatly reduce the vibration during use. Perhaps long bolts through grommets would work.

 

[Garage Dog]

I have a 10 x20 garage, yes its small, and only a 4x2 bench, yes its small, but I did not want to go bigger in my small space.

I want to be able to use a bench grinder and vice from time to time, but I do not want to mount either to the bench permanently (remember its small).

Do you think I am nuts, or could this work. Will the bench grinder vibrate the bench and make it unusable.

Yes - the set-up in the picture could certainly work. Some grinders vibrate a lot, others very, very little - you should be fine - the grinder certainly won't walk away with that set-up. If you had little washers or screws sitting on the bench they could vibrate off depending on a number of variables.

Not really certain what you mean by making the bench "unusable"?

My plan to store both the vice and grinder when not in use, is to mount either a doubled up 3/4 inch piece of plywood (or a 2x4) to the wall (in the studs) and mount 3/8 inch bolts in that to hang the mounting boards from.

Do you see any issues with this.

So your plan is to mount a board or plywood to the stud wall first to put the 3/8" bolts thru - then hang the plywood holding the grinder or vise from that?

If so even using a single layer of 3/4" plywood should be more than sufficient as a mounting board on your wall to hold the 3/8" bolts shown in the picture.

What size screws should I use to attach the hanging mount to the wall?

In general - a screw should be at least 1" longer than the thickness of whatever you are screwing down to get a good bite. So to screw a 3/4" thick piece of plywood to a stud wall: I would use a construction screw at least 1 3/4" long - 2" maybe better depending on how many screws you use.

Hope that helps a little.

GD

 

[Always_Thinkin]

I would say okay for the grinder but recommend buying a hitch receiver mount for the vise. Unless you don't plan to get rough with hammering or wrenching on work pieces in your vise.

 

[rsanter]

Will work fine
Hell I have a baldor that I use by setting it on the bench and plugging it in. If you are doing a little sharpening then you really aren't pushing on it much



Bob

 

[exmaxima1]

I have a similar situation when I sharpen knives on a grinder with a cardboard wheel (doped with polish). There is a slightly vibration that buzzes my bench and annoys me. I use a shallow box clamped to the table with a sheet of high density foam stuffed in it. The grinder sits on the foam and does not transmit any vibration to the table.

 

[shooting4life]

I ended up putting strut into my bench top like T track then use strut nuts and a threaded rod to bolt the grinder to the bench top with a plastic wheel type thing to screw it down.

When I am done the studs/strut nuts come out easy from the strut and I have a flat bench.

I also have the hitch set up and it is sturdier than the strut thing above but it is more expensive and not really needed for the type of work I do.

 

[Cudajas]

Hope that helps a little.

GD

That helps a lot actually.

Just the confidence in knowing that I am not crazy for giving it a try.

For mounting the plywood to the studs, would you suggest construction screws ( I would use 2 or 3 screws per stud) or lag bolts. There is going to be a fair amount of weight hanging off the mounts, so I am not sure what is best to use.

Jason

 

[Cudajas]

I would say okay for the grinder but recommend buying a hitch receiver mount for the vise. Unless you don't plan to get rough with hammering or wrenching on work pieces in your vise.

I thought of that. I have no immediate plans of getting overly rough on the vise...but will keep it in mind if I do.

Jason

 

[Slednut]

Once you make the mount for the vise, use it for your grinder.

This can also be a back saver.

 

[AnEv942]

I recently reworked my wooden workbench, needed to remount/ cantilever small vise to clear new drawer faces.


owever when I removed the vice to remount I had a hard time remounting-having access to full top without the vice in middle caused me to look at other options. As handy as the small vise is, as often as not it was in the way.
Seen receiver mount ideas on the forum which would work but my bench is wood. What I finally came up with is a drop in receiver mount thru the top. I simply welded some scrap angle to short piece of 2" tube, bolts to bench face and stringer under top.



I can rotate the vise mount so vise is cantilevered over bench to clear drawers or back out of the way, or remove completely which is really nice.
The idea of receiver mount on wood bench simply never occurred to me as doable. Works pretty slick though, this isn't a reefing vice or anvil. Cut hole in top with top and stringer 2x4s underneath corner, bolted in the receiver tube. Vise is bolted to plate, which I broached to weld both sides. I was going to pin thru the bench face into tubes but ended just running a small thumb screw thru vise plate into another piece of angle underneath. Helps when vise is hanging over edge. I wasn't sure when I did this but vise is as solid as when it was bolted to top. now will accept anything I want to make a mount for.
Receiver Vise No vise

Anyway thats what I did. I don't know why something similar couldn't be done using wood for a drop in verses using clamps? Which would work but seems clamps might be problematic coming loose , more when using vise?
Maybe attach a 2x block underneath the bench top (for thickness), place piece ply on top that will be the drop in mount, bore thru new top plate ply, bench top and block say for (2)1" dowels. Then attach dowels to tool mount ply. Could mount tool directly to the drop in board, though if more than one tool, might use another piece(s) mounted to each tool, so ending up with only one drop in ply base, tools with mounted flat boards would store easier. Just thinking out loud..

Mark

 

[ClintNZ]

I need to take a picture of my setup to save a few words, but...

I took a piece of flat steel & drilled 3 holes in it, 2 bolts are welded into the outer holes & go up through holes drilled in the bench to pick up the bench grinder mount holes. Up through the centre hole in the bit of flat goes a coach screw into the bottom of the benchtop, but with enough shaft exposed so that when the grinder is unbolted the bolt ends drop down to sit flush with the benchtop. There are a also a couple of hooks welded on under this assembly to hang the grinder on. A little hook under the bench next to it makes sure the nuts don't get lost.

I'd really like to make a similar setup for my vice, just need to re-engineer the cabinet under it so it will fit.

It was just about quicker to make it than explain it!

Cheers
Clint

 

[Cudajas]

I need to take a picture of my setup to save a few words, but...

I took a piece of flat steel & drilled 3 holes in it, 2 bolts are welded into the outer holes & go up through holes drilled in the bench to pick up the bench grinder mount holes. Up through the centre hole in the bit of flat goes a coach screw into the bottom of the benchtop, but with enough shaft exposed so that when the grinder is unbolted the bolt ends drop down to sit flush with the benchtop. There are a also a couple of hooks welded on under this assembly to hang the grinder on. A little hook under the bench next to it makes sure the nuts don't get lost.

I'd really like to make a similar setup for my vice, just need to re-engineer the cabinet under it so it will fit.

It was just about quicker to make it than explain it!

Cheers
Clint

That sound interesting. I would love to see some pics.

 

[Cudajas]

Well, I mocked it all up yesterday and put it all together today.

Here is the wall plate...Doubled up 3/4 plywood. I used 3/8 carriage bolts to mount the tools and recessed the nuts into the plate.





Mounted it to the wall with 4 inch construction screws.



Yes I ripped out some crappy drywall to mount this.

Mounted the vice and bench grinder to a doubled up 3/4 plywood and drilled 1/2 inch holes to hang them on the wall.



I tried the bench grinder really quick with out clamping it to the bench and it works great...just sort of vibrates lightly. Odd because it vibrated more on the pedestal it was on!

I like it, keeps my bench clean and the tools out of the way, but very handy when I need them

Jason

 

[ClintNZ]

Looks like you have things under control, in case anyone else was interested here's a few pics of my solution to the same problem:

Have the studs a close fit in the holes & sitting just flush with the benchtop when lowered so the holes don't collect gunk.

Cheers
Clint

 

[ishiboo]

I just got a vice for the barn, the most useful place was my 4x8 work table but I didn't want it getting in the way. Clamped it down for a few projects and that was a pain.

I'm threading some 1/2" holes in 1/4" steel plate and fastening it below the vise, so I can use bolts from the top just dropped in to easily tighten it down. With the plates attached to the bottom, I can just drop the bolts from the top and tighten and not mess with nuts/washers/etc. on the bottom.