Vise Info Thread

[KMScott]

Added, Thanks Rusty.

 

[KMScott]

Charles Parker #92. 3" jaws that opens to 3-1/8 and weights 25lbs. Thomas Hall design.

 

[KMScott]

Rigid 80S. 8: jaws and weights 170lbs. This one is in great shape.

 

[SkyPuncher]

Not sure if it has been posted, but there is some vise info in this old sale brochure from 1914 starting on page 208.

https://archive.org/details/railwaysuppliesc19crer/page/208

 

[KMScott]

Not sure if it has been posted, but there is some vise info in this old sale brochure from 1914 starting on page 208.

https://archive.org/details/railwaysuppliesc19crer/page/208

Great stuff, thanks for sharing SkyPuncher. More homework. Kevin

 

[454ragtop]

Armstrong combo vise, pics here https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8137458&highlight=Armstrong#post8137458
and here https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8137565&highlight=Armstrong#post8137565
3-1/4" jaws, opens 4-1/2", weighs 30 lbs without a handle, maybe add a pound or 2 for a handles.

 

[Fierljeppen]

Thanks everyone for the info!

Guess now I have another question... I just lucked upon this vise and started to take it apart to strip and repaint. After I cleaned off most of the gray rattle-can spray paint the orange started coming through and now it has a nice patina. I think I'll just give it a shot of matte clear-coat and let it be.

My question is, is this vise rare at all? I didn't see any 3.5" cadet vises on E-bay to compare with and all the other cadets were 4" Schiller ones while this one is a Chicago... Is there a production data set for Wilton vises that show how many were made year by year?

I had planned on putting it down in the old tractor shed but if it's sorta rare then I might re-think it but I'll probably still put it down there.

Nothing quite feels like an old Wilton...

I shiver when I walk past some of the vises in the hardware stores that they now slap the Wilton name on. What a shame...

Thanks again, you guys are great!--Chopsaw84

The Wilton Cadet vise was first advertised in 1954. That model was produced at least to the mid-1970's, while they dropped the 3-1/2" vise around 1971.

I wouldn't call them rare, but I wouldn't say that they're common either. Being that they came out in 1954, the "Chicago" castings would be a lot harder to find than a "Schiller Park".

The few Cadets that I've seen looked to be very high quality vises, just a lighter version of the machinist model.

 

[bastel]

I posted some Heuer vise 1938 catalogue pictures here: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8103496&postcount=56
Also translated them.

 

[Fierljeppen]

bastel...It's nice to see the German vises!

 

[va.grouseman]

Can still get a new Heuer vise setup for a nominal fee.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Heuer-Forg...435764&hash=item51ef029d91:g:AY0AAOSwq7JT67La


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Heuer-Benc...hash=item360382cb8c:m:mJV2I_bAUZ7fFtBcJqygaXQ


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brockhaus-...143123?hash=item3d87034393:g:yI8AAOxyRhBSuHv3


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brockhaus-...053812?hash=item3d5db38f74:g:L8UAAOSw17patCIK

 

[FMC1959]

Can still get a new Heuer vise setup for a nominal fee.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Heuer-Forg...435764&hash=item51ef029d91:g:AY0AAOSwq7JT67La


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Heuer-Benc...hash=item360382cb8c:m:mJV2I_bAUZ7fFtBcJqygaXQ


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brockhaus-...143123?hash=item3d87034393:g:yI8AAOxyRhBSuHv3


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brockhaus-...053812?hash=item3d5db38f74:g:L8UAAOSw17patCIK

VA, you can get them for much less through fellow GJ member Jens Putzier...the 7 incher over $1100 on ebay, just over $400 on Jen's website...and I believe he has something like a 10% discount for GJ members, but don't quote me on that.
https://www.jensputzier.com/brockhaus-heuer-vise-with-fixed-jaws-3605.html?number=BR10018029 Kg

 

[va.grouseman]

FMC, that is incredible discount.---Just proves the mark-up that people will try to get by with.---Thanks for the link.

 

[bastel]

The old Heuers look way better, though. The vintage Fronts don't use the Heuer I beam thing but a solid round bar. The vintage 5" can be had for little money, a 6" costs 60 - 90 euros (rare, but pop up now and then), and if the seller is willing to ship, shipping. Still beats the prices for a new one. Vintage back opening ones are a bit cheaper and if a modern I beam Front is acceptable (sometimes with visible nut and tube for the screw, looks nicer), getting a used one is really the cheaper way.

 

[flan]

i picked up a Parker for 20 bucks at a tag sale, it has the bevel like the photo here, what was the purpose of it? I removed it nicely with a grinder so it bolted up tight to the face of my workbench.

 

[Smitty]

Prentiss vise no. 353 1/2
3 1/2” jaws
55 lbs
5 1/4” opening
Custom handle (cough)


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[KMScott]

Thanks Smitty, does the 353-1/2 have replaceable jaws?

 

[Smitty]

You’re welcome, always happy to help. Yes the jaws are replaceable.

 

[Smitty]

Starrett vise no. 924 1/2-C
4 1/2” jaws
7” opening
85 lbs


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[KMScott]

Starrett vise no. 924 1/2-C
4 1/2” jaws
7” opening
85 lbs

Got Smitty, thanks again.

 

[rusty65]

Bonney rapid vise co.
I believe this is on the spread sheet but without the information to go with it.
Jaws are 2 1/4 wide opens 2 3/4in weighs 4lbs 4.5oz model is no 120.



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[KMScott]

Got it, Thanks Rusty. Pretty awesome vise.

 

[KMScott]

Samson 5208. No other spec;s.

 

[KMScott]

Samson 1142. No Spec:s on this Combination vise.

 

[chopsaw84]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the earlier info on the Wilton Cadet 9135 vise. Appreciate it Fierljeppen...

---

Here is another one I have that I'm curious to see what you guys can tell me about. Didn't wipe it down but it looks nice when cleaned up.

It's about 28" long closed and about 36" extended. Only stamping on it is "Patented Sept 22 1914". 3.5" jaws.

The lead screw is hollow and the handle turns a shaft that has a "bit holder?" inside the jaws.

I can get better pictures later in the week if needed.

--Chopsaw84

 

[davethorik]

I'm pretty sure that is like a drill press. A 3-in-1 instead of a 2 -in-1.

 

[KMScott]

Athol #83. 5" jaws that opens to 7" and weights 80lbs. Swivel releases under the bench, old one.

 

[Fierljeppen]

chopsaw84...Congratulations! You've got a spreadsheet vise. It's a Rock Island No. 390 in nice condition, not missing a lot of parts.

KMScott...Yeah, that Athol is really old.

 

[KMScott]

Thanks to both chopsaw84 and Fierljeppen, everything added to the Spreadsheet.

 

[PghJKB]

chopsaw84

The patent of 22 Sept 1914 is #1111103, granted to C. E. Shields of Rock Island Illinois and licensed to Rock Island.

There is an earlier patent that I have not yet found. There are at least of seventy patents for Vise / Anvil / Drill combinations.

Patent can be viewed here:
https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageN...1=1111103.PN.%26OS=pn/1111103%26RS=PN/1111103


JKB

 

[chopsaw84]

I had replied a few days ago but I don't see my reply showing so I must have screwed it up somehow....

Anyways, just wanted to make sure I said thank you very much for all the info and especially for the catalog page picture.

That's awesome, the patent info is also very cool and I may end up getting nice prints made of both and framing them.

Much more info than I expected to get so again, thank you guys!

--Chopsaw84

 

[Mark in Indiana]

All:
I believe I have some vise pictures & information to share. Who should I send my entries to? Please pardon my question.

Thanks in advance.

 

[KMScott]

All:
I believe I have some vise pictures & information to share. Who should I send my entries to? Please pardon my question.

Thanks in advance.

Mark, if for the Spreadsheet then add them here in the Vise Info Thread, I am keeping a eye out for vises not on the Spreadsheet and updating when I can.

Kevin

 

[Mark in Indiana]

KM,
Thanks for the reply.

Here is a Reed 23-1/2 Utility vise that's different from what I saw on the spreadsheet. I found it interesting because I didn't know that Reed made a light duty vise. Although it looks like a homeowner's vise, it's just as robust as their heavier duty models.

Details:
* Make/Model: Reed 23 1/2.
* Manufactured by: Reed Manufacturing Co. Erie, PA. USA.
* Estimated manufacture date: Circa 1960s.
* Jaw measurement information;
Width = 3-1/2".
Opening = Over 4-1/2".
Depth = 2-1/2".
* Features lightly serrated, removable jaw faces and cast in pipe jaws.
* Anvil surface measurements; 2-1/2" x 2".
* 3 hole swivel mount with 360° rotation and 2 lock handles.
* Overall measurements of vise;
Height = 6".
Length = 11".
Width = 7".
* Weight; 23#.

 

[bastel]

Found these, Leinen and offset vises. No idea who the maker of the offset vises is but maybe one might pop up in real life some day.

 

[KMScott]

Yost 108. 8-1/2" jaws that opens to 12-1/2" and weights 265lbs.

 

[KMScott]

Athol 612-1/2. 2-1/2" jaws.

 

[va.grouseman]

KMS, that's only the second #99 I've ever seen, the other was on the big thread.

 

[rusty65]

Athol 612-1/2. 2-1/2" jaws.

It’s to bad Athol really did some what of a poor casting job on the markings. I’m wondering if it could also be a 613 1/2 also.



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[KMScott]

KMS, that's only the second #99 I've ever seen, the other was on the big thread.

This one has replaceable Jaws va, trying to figure out if they were factory installed.

It’s to bad Athol really did some what of a poor casting job on the markings. I’m wondering if it could also be a 613 1/2 also.

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Rusty, you could be right, all I can do is find the images and try my best to verify them. Thanks for the catalog page, later I will update the Spreadsheet. Thanks. Kevin

 

[chopsaw84]

Hi guys,

When I was digging through my vise collection to get out the Rock Island 390 (thanks again for all the info) I pushed this one aside.

Now that I'm re-organizing I remember buying it for $30 and still think it's a very cool vise. I should do something with it...

Didn't see it in the catalog, Simplex/Ridge 42CPSN sheet metal workers vise, 4.5" jaws and 24" in length closed.







--Chopsaw84