Vise Info Thread

[KMScott]

Thanks again Fierljeppen with the Yost 99. Awesome vise isn't it.

 

[KMScott]

Charles Parker #200. 4-1/8" jaws that opens to 5-1/2" and weights over 41lbs.

 

[wrenchguy]

Yost 99. Revised thanks to Fierljeppen. 8-1/2" jaws that opens to 12" and weights 275 lbs.

Photos show 2 different vise own by 2 guys that know each other? So theres at least 2 of those clampers out there?

 

[KMScott]

Photos show 2 different vise own by 2 guys that know each other? So theres at least 2 of those clampers out there?

No, sorry wrench. One is for sale and the other is in Kansas. They do not know each other.

 

[va.grouseman]

PRICE, no don't tell me, yea do tell me, no don't tell me, yea do tell me.

 

[KMScott]

PRICE, no don't tell me, yea do tell me, no don't tell me, yea do tell me.

I have no idea, seen it on Facebook va, person was wanting to know what size it is, how heavy and how much is it worth. Fierljeppen set us straight.

 

[KMScott]

Rock Island 172. 4" jaws and weights only 37lbs. Owner did a great job in making the new meatball.

 

[mikeswrenches]

chopsaw84

The patent of 22 Sept 1914 is #1111103, granted to C. E. Shields of Rock Island Illinois and licensed to Rock Island.

There is an earlier patent that I have not yet found. There are at least of seventy patents for Vise / Anvil / Drill combinations.

Patent can be viewed here:
https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageN...1=1111103.PN.%26OS=pn/1111103%26RS=PN/1111103


JKB

The earlier Shields patent you wanted to find is 1036155. In addition there is 1266724 & a design patent USD46268.

Mike

 

[davethorik]

Keystone no. 700 combo vise, thru-bench swivel base
3.5" jaws, opens 5", weighs 35 lbs as seen without pipe jaws and broken wingnut.

 

[KMScott]

Reed 415 Filers Swivel Jaw. 5" jaws that opens to 6-1/2" and weights 98lbs.

 

[KMScott]

Reed 303 Swivel Jaw. 3" jaws that opens to 6" and weights 25lbs.

 

[tool_scrounge]

Rock Island 172. 4" jaws and weights only 37lbs. Owner did a great job in making the new meatball.

Very interesting. I have a 30 lb Rock Island model 192 (also 4" jaws) that has the same general lines but has mounting tabs since there is no swivel base.

Has anyone ever seen a catalog listing for the 17X/19X series? The jaws are cast in place so it probably is early? I see some 3" and 5" sizes listed in the vise info spread sheet but was curious if the made any other sizes.

 

[Fierljeppen]

tool_scrounge...The catalog scan is from 1914 and the only one I have of these Rock Island models.

For a generic medium priced vise, it sure looks good for being 100+ years old.

 

[tool_scrounge]

Fierljeppen - thanks for posting the catalog page. The 19X and 17X series is an interesting model series in that they are designed to be lower cost compared to the normally 30% heavier machinist vises (57X series for example). But they still retain the desirable characteristics of a machinist vise compared to homeowner vises like the later columbian D44 or wilton 744 series. In today's dollars the 192 would cost $218.

 

[bl00]

Here's an ACCO 12. No info on the size, though.

 

[bl00]

Here's a new one for the list. No specs or other info avail.

 

[bl00]

Found info for the Detroit on google books. There were two sizes: https://tinyurl.com/rkh6yfo

 

[KMScott]

Thanks Fierljeppen, tool_scrounge and bl00 for your posts today. On my retirement vacation in Savannah GA taking a break today and catching up on my work. Don't miss the cold and snow out West.

 

[va.grouseman]

Yep, never seen that one before Fred.---Like I said last week, "when you're sure you've seen them all, BOOM, somebody drags out an unknown".

 

[geomagno]

I've got a Rigid 45FCPN which I didn't see on your list. This has the pipe vise where the 45CPN in your list does not.

 

[KMScott]

I've got a Rigid 45FCPN which I didn't see on your list. This has the pipe vise where the 45CPN in your list does not.

Thanks Geomagna, the 45CPN does have a pocket for pipe jaws. I added your vise and if you could weight and with the vise closed let me know how much of the square slider is then I can finish up the spec:s. Thanks for your help.

 

[AngryBeaver]

Thanks Geomagna, the 45CPN does have a pocket for pipe jaws. I added your vise and if you could weight and with the vise closed let me know how much of the square slider is then I can finish up the spec:s. Thanks for your help.

the 45FCPN is the same as a columbian 204-1/2 M3. 4.5" jaws, 61 lbs, opens 5.5". The 45CPN on the spreadsheet is the same vise, but in M2 configuration, its missing the swivel base and the pipe jaws.....

 

[KMScott]

Wilton 925/825. 2-1/2" Jaws that opens to 3" and weights 13lbs. I restored these two.

 

[Smitty]

Beautiful work KMS, they look better than new.

 

[KMScott]

Hollands 47H. 7" jaws opens to 12-1/2" and weights 230lbs.

 

[akasrick]

Possibly for the record.
A Bonney Standard "00" vise?
00 on the anvil
1-1/8" Jaws
Opens 1"
Weighs 1lb.

Has both the typical marks on the wing.
Diamond & Triangle.

The adv. says these aren't made in Bonney Vise, who or where?

Note the export price was the same for west of the Mississippi.
Don't know if that is true for Allentown.
I don't seem to be able to point(qualify) to that statement now.

akasrick

 

[KMScott]

Thanks akasrick, pretty tiny Bonney. Did not have a picture of the model 0 with pretty much the same spec's. I added yours as a model 00. Thanks again for your help on this spreadsheet.

 

[akasrick]

, pretty tiny Bonney. Did not have a picture of the model 0 with pretty much the same spec's. I added yours as a model 00. Thanks again for your help on this spreadsheet.

I don't see an 0 listed anywhere, I'll be on the look out for it.
As usual my pleasure and Thankyou!

akasrick

 

[Productbob]

hi Kevin,
picked this up today (hopefully this will be a trade for something also not on the list next week) and didn't see it on the list. Columbian D45 M3, 37 lbs, replaceable 5 in jaws, pipe jaws, swivel base. thanks

 

[Vise]

Rock Island 68A. 8.5” jaws, and (probably) weighs 286lbs, though unconfirmed.

 

[Filly]

Post 1/2: (the inquiry post)

Theres this Joseph Ware Vise on Craigslist in my area, similar to one posted years ago here by KMScott. Looks like it’s missing the swivel base.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7224296&postcount=463

Very interesting looking vise, question is, is it worth picking up for $75? Are these rare/worth anything? Can’t find anything about them other than the above mention on this forum.

Thanks all!

 

[Filly]

Post 2/2: (my latest score)

Answered an add on Facebook Marketplace yesterday (screen-shot attached of add, I think you’ll all enjoy it)

“Sure I’ll buy your vice grip” almost felt bad about this one, especially when I asked him out of curiosity what his new vise was that he was replacing this one with and he pointed to a harbor freight one... some people just don’t know what they have!

 

[KMScott]

Post 1/2: (the inquiry post)

Theres this Joseph Ware Vise on Craigslist in my area, similar to one posted years ago here by KMScott. Looks like it’s missing the swivel base.

Very interesting looking vise, question is, is it worth picking up for $75? Are these rare/worth anything? Can’t find anything about them other than the above mention on this forum.

Thanks all!

If you are a vise collector then yes the vise is worth $75 in my opinion. They are very old vises that were built in the US and Canada. This one might have a different spindle nut added. Kind of looks different. Nice vises you picked up and maybe share them on the big vise thread. There is more vise collectors visiting that thread.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44782&page=3864

 

[Filly]

Whoops, actually meant to post in the other thread! Thought this one looked light on the number of posts, I’ll share the Athol there now, and thanks for the info on the J. Ware.

 

[KMScott]

Hollands 94-1/2 Coachmakers vise. 4-1/2" jaws. More spec:s will be added.

 

[KMScott]

Reed 103R. 3" jaws that opens to 4" and weights 22-1/2 lbs. This is one I restored and replaced the cast in jaws with toolsteel ones.

 

[KMScott]

Reed 103-1/2R. 3-1/2" jaws that opens to 5-1/2" and weights 30lbs. Another one I restored.

 

[wrenchguy]

most excellent kevin!

 

[KMScott]

Charles Parker 594. Union. 4" jaws.

 

[KMScott]

Athol # 89. 3" jaws that opens to 3-1/2" and weights 16 lbs.