VISE Jackpot!

[1982fxr]

Maybe snap one threshold of of quality is lower than the brand that you say your vise is, but your vise says snap on, I’m confused.

What??

Wilton has been a Snap-on vise supplier for many years including the Tradesman line. The part numbers even start with WIL.

Snap-on doesn't make everything it sells. They also use suppliers and are upfront about it. This is not a secret or new news.

I've never seen what he's talking about and I've owned over 50 tradesmans. If the paint sucked then I would put that on wilton because I'd bet money wolton painted them, not Snap-on.

 

[1982fxr]

After getting a new snap on vise,which is a Wilton 1750 rebrand,I'm seriously disappointed with the quality and finish.the casting had flashing everywhere and was painted over with the thinnest coat imaginable.now,all I think about is how super nice these Doyle vises are.if you have not personally seen one,you won't believe how nice they are.they seem like every operation was done under super strict qc.like an $1100 Wilton should be

Get back to us in 10 or 20 years on that.

 

[WoodenDisasterMaster]

What??

Wilton has been a Snap-on vise supplier for many years including the Tradesman line. The part numbers even start with WIL.

Snap-on doesn't make everything it sells. They also use suppliers and are upfront about it. This is not a secret or new news.

I've never seen what he's talking about and I've owned over 50 tradesmans. If the paint sucked then I would put that on wilton because I'd bet money wolton painted them, not Snap-on.

 

[WoodenDisasterMaster]

Just so I understand, that vise says Wilton NOWHERE on it? And you bought it from snap on?

 

[mike93lx]

Just so I understand, that vise says Wilton NOWHERE on it? And you bought it from snap on?

There is an edit button on each post...

 

[WoodenDisasterMaster]

the supplier of the snap on vise will give snap on what they ask for. I’m guessing SNAPON isn’t real easy going. So, that being said, if the supplier is making thier product to snap ons spec. The issue you have is with snap on.

 

[1982fxr]

Yes if there was a problem he should have gone back to Snap-on since they sold it to him.

The only difference between a wilton 1750 and the Snap-on version is the color of paint and the decal. They were not made to any special "specs ".

It's a ****** vise, don't over think it.

 

[WoodenDisasterMaster]

I’ll explain it differently. If you eat at my restaurant and you order a steak. And the cut I serve you is awful, do u bring me the complaint? Or do you call my steak supplier? The processor ? The rancher? No you complain to me, because I’m the one who sold you the steak and it’s my responsibility to make sure I give you a quality product. The real question I’d ask is this, why in gods name, knowing what you do about where the vises come from, buy a vise from snap on knowing damn well it’s a nameplate on a vise you can handily procure 40% cheaper directly from the manufacturer?

 

[WoodenDisasterMaster]

Yes if there was a problem he should have gone back to Snap-on since they sold it to him.

The only difference between a wilton 1750 and the Snap-on version is the color of paint and the decal. They were not made to any special "specs ".

It's a ****** vise, don't over think it.

Somebody is overthinking it. It’s not me.

 

[WoodenDisasterMaster]

Somebody is overthinking it. It’s not me.

Easy on the language telephone tough guy. I’m not cussing at you.

 

[Shiftless]

One reason guys buy SnapOn vises from a dealer is that you can get instant financing.

 

[WoodenDisasterMaster]

Yes if there was a problem he should have gone back to Snap-on since they sold it to him.

The only difference between a wilton 1750 and the Snap-on version is the color of paint and the decal. They were not made to any special "specs ".

It's a ****** vise, don't over think it.

Have you ever sold any kind of product whatsoever to a company the size of snap on. I assure you there’s a 200 page document detailing exactly what is and is not an acceptable example of a vise from Wilton.

 

[mike93lx]

Have you ever sold any kind of product whatsoever to a company the size of snap on. I assure you there’s a 200 page document detailing exactly what is and is not an acceptable example of a vise from Wilton.

Lol. No chance. Waste of time. They pick a model and rely on the manufacturer's quality specs

 

[1982fxr]

Lol. No chance. Waste of time. They pick a model and rely on the manufacturer's quality specs

Exactly.

Nonetheless, this thread has officially become awesome.

 

[1982fxr]

Have you ever sold any kind of product whatsoever to a company the size of snap on. I assure you there’s a 200 page document detailing exactly what is and is not an acceptable example of a vise from Wilton.

I have not. I have,, however, talked with Snap-on about the vises and part numbers supplied by Wilton. At one time I was even given a guys number at Wilton to get the Snap-on side badges from..

These companies are not making special vises for Snap-on. Whether it's from Wilton or anybody else, the only difference will be the color of paint and sticker on the side.

 

[rdenney]

Have you ever sold any kind of product whatsoever to a company the size of snap on. I assure you there’s a 200 page document detailing exactly what is and is not an acceptable example of a vise from Wilton.

Did it really take a dozen or more posts to make your point?

Rick “or is that really the point you are aiming for?” Denney

 

[BlackHorseSaga]

I’ll explain it differently. If you eat at my restaurant and you order a steak. And the cut I serve you is awful, do u bring me the complaint? Or do you call my steak supplier? The processor ? The rancher? No you complain to me, because I’m the one who sold you the steak and it’s my responsibility to make sure I give you a quality product. The real question I’d ask is this, why in gods name, knowing what you do about where the vises come from, buy a vise from snap on knowing damn well it’s a nameplate on a vise you can handily procure 40% cheaper directly from the manufacturer?

Because I bought a $4.00 badge from my Snap-on guy, he warrantied out a spindle for me off the truck free of charge.

The reason is Wilton's lifetime warranty doesn't exist (it's 3 or 5 years total), and Snap-on will make it right.

 

[WoodenDisasterMaster]

Did it really take a dozen or more posts to make your point?

Rick “or is that really the point you are aiming for?” Denney

Apparently it may take more since clearly some folks are still confused. I have dealt with companies as large as and larger and I promise you anything they put thier name on has an iron clad contract as to what they expect. If you think they just accept delivery of 1000’s of vises with out spot checking them, Your just plain naive. There’s a documentary about Costco that shows the rigors of trying to get into a major retailer with your product. It can take years. Quality control, packaging, marketing people. If you believe snap on just slaps their sticker, figuratively on any bs someone sends them. Well I don’t know what to tell you other than. Your wrong. And do I expect your tool truck guy to know the ins and outs of what takes place at snap on corporate? I do not. They are glorified multi level marketing people.

 

[WoodenDisasterMaster]

What??

Wilton has been a Snap-on vise supplier for many years including the Tradesman line. The part numbers even start with WIL.

Snap-on doesn't make everything it sells. They also use suppliers and are upfront about it. This is not a secret or new news.

I've never seen what he's talking about and I've owned over 50 tradesmans. If the paint sucked then I would put that on wilton because I'd bet money wolton painted them, not Snap-on.

50 huh? Maybe start buying a different vise? What are doing with them? Having vise melting competitions? I’m sure Wilton painted them. To snap ons specs. I’m sure Wilton delivers exactly what they are contracted to deliver, if the quality of your snap on vise is sub par, the fault lies with snap on, they are snap ons vises. Do you blame the actual tool mfr for any other low quality snap on product? No , you blame snap on. Just because you happen to know who makes this product doesn’t change this fact. Period. And, if you called to complain to snap on, they would accept full responsibility. They took the money, they handed the product over. The responsibility is theirs. If you called and they told you to complain to Wilton, you would be livid.

 

[WoodenDisasterMaster]

I have not. I have,, however, talked with Snap-on about the vises and part numbers supplied by Wilton. At one time I was even given a guys number at Wilton to get the Snap-on side badges from..

These companies are not making special vises for Snap-on. Whether it's from Wilton or anybody else, the only difference will be the color of paint and sticker on the side.

I did not say they were special. I said snap on has quality standards that are clearly outlined. (Spec)

 

[1982fxr]

50 huh? Maybe start buying a different vise? What are doing with them? Having vise melting competitions? I’m sure Wilton painted them. To snap ons specs. I’m sure Wilton delivers exactly what they are contracted to deliver, if the quality of your snap on vise is sub par, the fault lies with snap on, they are snap ons vises. Do you blame the actual tool mfr for any other low quality snap on product? No , you blame snap on. Just because you happen to know who makes this product doesn’t change this fact. Period. And, if you called to complain to snap on, they would accept full responsibility. They took the money, they handed the product over. The responsibility is theirs. If you called and they told you to complain to Wilton, you would be livid.

I already said up thread if there is a problem with a Snap-on badged wilton it would be taken up with Snap-on.

Yes, I'm paying money for wiltons to melt them down. Because that would be intelligent.

 

[1982fxr]

Apparently it may take more since clearly some folks are still confused. I have dealt with companies as large as and larger and I promise you anything they put thier name on has an iron clad contract as to what they expect. If you think they just accept delivery of 1000’s of vises with out spot checking them, Your just plain naive. There’s a documentary about Costco that shows the rigors of trying to get into a major retailer with your product. It can take years. Quality control, packaging, marketing people. If you believe snap on just slaps their sticker, figuratively on any bs someone sends them. Well I don’t know what to tell you other than. Your wrong. And do I expect your tool truck guy to know the ins and outs of what takes place at snap on corporate? I do not. They are glorified multi level marketing people.

Dang turns out you're right! I googled it and in 1980 wilton built a foundry and assembly plant just to supply Snap-on.

I don't have a link but it goes into detail about the specified PSI of the cast iron, the slide machining, clamping force and a whole bunch of other stuff.

It's actually in the same state as the original Craftsman factory and research lab--the place that built all Craftsman tools from the 1920s/1930's (excluding modern Asian imports) up until the sale to Stanley Black & Decker a few years ago.

 

[Gidge]

You just earned a first-class "you ****".

+1

 

[WoodenDisasterMaster]

I don’t even know what to say . Thank you.

 

[WoodenDisasterMaster]

I already said up thread if there is a problem with a Snap-on badged wilton it would be taken up with Snap-on.

Yes, I'm paying money for wiltons to melt them down. Because that would be intelligent.

Hey ya never know, the junior college in my town has a competition every year to see who can melt a Webber grill the fastest. The record is like 2.2 seconds. Oxygen and hydrogen I think.