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Vise Recommendation for under $100

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davethorik, thanks!!!!!!

I'm only going to work on cars, eg u-joints, at home, but somewhere between a pro mechanic and hobbyist (my cars always have lots of issues, so I don't want homeowner grade). Which of these would be best for me?

DeWalt DXCMWSV4

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BSWQDMR/?tag=atomicindus08-20

DeWalt DXCMMPV5, 5” $124

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QG3NLRZ/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Tekton 4":

https://www.tekton.com/swivel-bench-vises?size=4-in

And are these vise jaws good (or necessary)?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018QNM7V2/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 
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I have had a few cheap vices. My advice is spen more money or get a used usa made vice even if it looks beat up and ugly. Theres a red craftsman vice that looks like a wilton tradesman and i hear that’s pretty good.
 

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davethorik, thanks!!!!!!

I'm only going to work on cars, eg u-joints, at home, but somewhere between a pro mechanic and hobbyist (my cars always have lots of issues, so I don't want homeowner grade). Which of these would be best for me?

DeWalt DXCMWSV4

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BSWQDMR/?tag=atomicindus08-20

DeWalt DXCMMPV5, 5” $124

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QG3NLRZ/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Tekton 4":

https://www.tekton.com/swivel-bench-vises?size=4-in

And are these vise jaws good (or necessary)?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018QNM7V2/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Are the nylon inserts/covers necessary? Probably not. I’ve been beating on vises and using them inappropriately for years. Old inner tube, furring strips, flattened copper pipe, pvc, and duct tape solve your problems for much less money and you can adapt it to the situation. Are replaceable jaws and covers nice? Sure, but there are lots of things in the garage that will accomplish the same goal for little or zero money.
 

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I have had a few cheap vices. My advice is spen more money or get a used usa made vice even if it looks beat up and ugly. Theres a red craftsman vice that looks like a wilton tradesman and i hear that’s pretty good.

That red Craftsman vise that you hear is pretty good, was good. It was the Craftsman Professional and it had 60,000 PSI iron construction. They don’t make them anymore however. Cripe sold what they had left about a year ago. If you can find one, buy it.
 

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Not really :lol_hitti

Thread title says..."Vise Recommendation for under $100" :spit:

Is a really nice vise though and the quick adjust a neat feature

Maybe I'll buy one :thumbup:

Fair point. This thread is really two people searching for a vise. Giants posted a different DeWalt vise for the same price ($124) so I went with that same price...not realizing he wasn’t the OP.
 
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Fair point. This thread is really two people searching for a vise. Giants posted a different DeWalt vise for the same price ($124) so I went with that same price...not realizing he wasn’t the OP.

No problem--I'm not the only one here scouting around for a vise. But if someone recommends a vise > $100, it helps if they explain *why* it's worth the additional price. Thanks.
 

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No problem--I'm not the only one here scouting around for a vise. But if someone recommends a vise > $100, it helps if they explain *why* it's worth the additional price. Thanks.

The best argument I could make for the price increase was in the YouTube video. That said, the Harbor Freight did surprisingly well considering it’s price point. I’d still go with the $85 Yost from Home Depot if trying to stay under $100. Or build the Fireball vise ($200+ just in materials, lol)
 

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Fair point. This thread is really two people searching for a vise. Giants posted a different DeWalt vise for the same price ($124) so I went with that same price...not realizing he wasn’t the OP.

Ya it is getting confusing now :D

No problem--I'm not the only one here scouting around for a vise. But if someone recommends a vise > $100, it helps if they explain *why* it's worth the additional price. Thanks.

BrandoJames did you watch the video link Parrothead posted?

The $124 Dewalt vise was in there the main features being the quick slide release and the parallel height of the jaw top and rear anvil, held up well enough to the hammering abuse though the slide messed up.

The 5" Yost was in there also again it held up to some extreme hammering for a $75 vise the only issue was the flat bar underneath for the swivel locks got a little bent (and you could easily see how that happened as he continued to hammer on it knowing the swivel base had already vibrated loose. In my opinion if it had been retightened for such abusive hammering it may not have bent at all either.

Perusing the HD webpage though and out stock thru them the Dewalt DXCMWSV5, though Chinese not and Taiwan looks a lot an older Craftsman design vise to me. $70 @ Amazon....decent reviews.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BSZRZWS/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Just another option I guess :dunno: Or fuel for the fire :lol_hitti


Once again that Dewalt you originally posted to start this thread (the one with the big flat anvil) that basic style can be found under many brands Tecton, Wilton, Bessy etc. even Yost I think maybe.
 

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Are the nylon inserts/covers necessary? Probably not. I’ve been beating on vises and using them inappropriately for years. Old inner tube, furring strips, flattened copper pipe, pvc, and duct tape solve your problems for much less money and you can adapt it to the situation. Are replaceable jaws and covers nice? Sure, but there are lots of things in the garage that will accomplish the same goal for little or zero money.


"Sure, but there are lots of things in the garage that will accomplish the same goal for little or zero money."

Can you give me a few examples? Thanks!
 

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I would skip the DeWalt models. You would be paying more for the same cast-iron imports that other brands (Irwin, light duty Wilton, new Craftsman) are selling. I also cannot find information on DeWalts' website when entering model numbers for their vises. They seem to only exist on retail sites which makes me think it is a re-badge of some other common imported vise.

I think that 4.5" Forward brand on Amazon has all of the features I would want in a starter vise. https://www.amazon.com/Forward-1745A-4-5-Inch-Degree-Swivel/dp/B07G57P2QL

Made from ductile iron (Like old USA vises) instead of cast (Imports) or gray (HF) iron. Sloping curves/V to the jaws instead of a T-shape, replaceable jaw faces, pipe jaw inserts, and a round slide that covers the screw from dust/dirt/debris. The anvil section at the back is really just a flat surface to lightly tap soft metals into shape. If the rotating base shows signs of slipping under your use, then just remove and bolt it in a fixed position.

It also looks eerily similar to this Craftsman Pro vise. https://toolguyd.com/craftsman-professional-bench-vise/

I would start with that 4.5" Forward model and use it until you find a good deal on a used USA vise. Buy some magnetic soft jaws if you wish. I usually keep sets of the aluminum/rubber ones and the rubber special feature jaws from eBay.

Aluminum soft face: https://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-OF-MAGNETIC-ALUMINIUM-RUBBER-SOFT-PAD-JAWS-FOR-METAL-VISE-3-1-2-LONG-PADS/281447788095?hash=item4187986e3f:g:fGsAAOxy86RSZyrc

Specialty/round/small parts holding jaws: https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-5-Vise-Soft-Jaws-Vice-Jaw-Magnetic-Reversible-Pads-Universal-2-Sets-in-1/233329654880?hash=item365387fc60:g:Ld4AAOSwFRtdbLe4
 
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I would skip the DeWalt models. You would be paying more for the same cast-iron imports that other brands (Irwin, light duty Wilton, new Craftsman) are selling. I also cannot find information on DeWalts' website when entering model numbers for their vises. They seem to only exist on retail sites which makes me think it is a re-badge of some other common imported vise.

I think that 4.5" Forward brand on Amazon has all of the features I would want in a starter vise. https://www.amazon.com/Forward-1745A-4-5-Inch-Degree-Swivel/dp/B07G57P2QL

Made from ductile iron (Like old USA vises) instead of cast (Imports) or gray (HF) iron. Sloping curves/V to the jaws instead of a T-shape, replaceable jaw faces, pipe jaw inserts, and a round slide that covers the screw from dust/dirt/debris. The anvil section at the back is really just a flat surface to lightly tap soft metals into shape. If the rotating base shows signs of slipping under your use, then just remove and bolt it in a fixed position.

It also looks eerily similar to this Craftsman Pro vise. https://toolguyd.com/craftsman-professional-bench-vise/

I would start with that 4.5" Forward model and use it until you find a good deal on a used USA vise. Buy some magnetic soft jaws if you wish. I usually keep sets of the aluminum/rubber ones and the rubber special feature jaws from eBay.

Aluminum soft face: https://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-OF-MAGNETIC-ALUMINIUM-RUBBER-SOFT-PAD-JAWS-FOR-METAL-VISE-3-1-2-LONG-PADS/281447788095?hash=item4187986e3f:g:fGsAAOxy86RSZyrc

Specialty/round/small parts holding jaws: https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-5-Vise-Soft-Jaws-Vice-Jaw-Magnetic-Reversible-Pads-Universal-2-Sets-in-1/233329654880?hash=item365387fc60:g:Ld4AAOSwFRtdbLe4


Thanks. What would be specs on a good deal for a used US-made vise?
 

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Are the nylon inserts/covers necessary? Probably not. I’ve been beating on vises and using them inappropriately for years. Old inner tube, furring strips, flattened copper pipe, pvc, and duct tape solve your problems for much less money and you can adapt it to the situation. Are replaceable jaws and covers nice? Sure, but there are lots of things in the garage that will accomplish the same goal for little or zero money.

"Sure, but there are lots of things in the garage that will accomplish the same goal for little or zero money."

Can you give me a few examples? Thanks!

Seriously? The part you quoted has all the items you can use to protect different items from the steel jaws. That’s the goal, enough clamping force to hold the item, but in some cases not damage the surface of the item. Cut up, melt, hammer, bend, etc to get them to cover the jaws
 
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BrandoJames did you watch the video link Parrothead posted?

I finally watched the video this afternoon. Honestly dudes, I'm thinking more along the lines of using a vise to sharpen mower blades. I understand the purpose of a torture test. But if I started swinging a hammer like that in my garage, I think my wife would call the police.
 

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Again, just buy a cheap new import vise and get on with life. For u joints, get a ball joint press like astro or OTC
 

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Seriously? The part you quoted has all the items you can use to protect different items from the steel jaws. That’s the goal, enough clamping force to hold the item, but in some cases not damage the surface of the item. Cut up, melt, hammer, bend, etc to get them to cover the jaws

I like old motorcycle tire innertubes :beer:

Though I have often done block of wood, and did buy some cheapo aluminum magnetic jaw covers with rubber strips thru HF years ago. Rubber fell off in short time I used some goop glue to put them back on :lol_hitti
 

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"Sure, but there are lots of things in the garage that will accomplish the same goal for little or zero money."

Can you give me a few examples? Thanks!

I use leather as soft jaws.
Start at 7:12 in This video to see my leather soft jaws and my humble 4” MIT vise in action.
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Thanks. What would be specs on a good deal for a used US-made vise?

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--I just paid $60 for an old Athol (Starrett) 4" jaw vise that opens to almost 6". It is a monster compared to the ones I have seen in most stores and at work.
--Most will print USA, or a town where they were made. Some will have a brand and model number. A lot of old Sears/Craftsman were made by companies like Columbian under license.
--Jaw width is not as important for most work and will be smaller than the newer offerings. 4-5" width jaws will be found on fairly large USA vises.
--The jaws and body exterior should also have more smooth, sloping curves. Jaws should have a wide V shape out to the edges of the jaw faces. Straight angles should only be on machined surfaces. Hard angles could not be reliably cast with older technology without causing a stress point in the material.
--Jaws should also meet parallel without binding the screw. Otherwise it may have been over-torqued creating a bend or bow somewhere.
--Ductile iron is the strongest material next to steel. Easiest way to check is to look for a lack of mold type lines on the jaws that are used when cast iron is poured.
--Ductile Iron will also make it heavy. My fixed base 4.5" Monarch ($100 + shipping) was considered homeowner duty and weighs ~42lbs. The Heavy Duty Prentiss version was ~57lbs. Both are built more to today's industrial standards.
--Check for any signs of cracks or repairs in the jaws and base. Recent repairs may be more questionable, but many vises have old repairs that have held for decades. Cracks in the slides are usually a non-issue and common on some brands.
--Square acme threads on the screw. These are stronger than the sharp edge bolt threads. More threads per inch will provide higher clamping force. Fewer threads per inch allow faster movement.
--Covered screw threads. Either a square or round slide that covers the entire length of the screw is needed to deter dirt. Fully enclosed bullet style are best, but command higher prices for it.
--The screw should also be using a washer or clip to hold it to the dynamic jaw. As you can see in the video, any one that has a hole/pin design in the screw will fail at that point.
--Fixed base is stronger than swivel base, but some need the added adjustment for holding work correctly.
--I can also move any vise screw with a single finger. If it binds alot, then it is either damaged or full of dirt.
--Minor cuts from hacksaws on the jaws are not a concern either. Sometimes people fill them with silver solder, but I just leave them as is.

There is a list of all the known USA brands at the beginning of the Vise repair 101 thread so you can keep an eye out for them while looking online or at used tool places.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830&highlight=vise+makers


I finally watched the video this afternoon. Honestly dudes, I'm thinking more along the lines of using a vise to sharpen mower blades. I understand the purpose of a torture test. But if I started swinging a hammer like that in my garage, I think my wife would call the police.

Brando:
All you need there is good clamping force, so it doesn't come loose while grinding. Any old 3-3.5" jaw width vise will do this well for around $30-60 off eBay. That 4.5" Forward on Amazon is the best designed new vise I can find for under $100. Put some quality grease on the screw and it should last far longer than needed and handle any other odd jobs you find for it. I've found that you don't realize how many times you can use a tool for something until you have it. I just used my little 1920s Columbian No 143 to hold a sharpie with fishing line spool to add line to my reel. It also has the clamping strength for most of my quick jobs.
 

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I finally watched the video this afternoon. Honestly dudes, I'm thinking more along the lines of using a vise to sharpen mower blades. I understand the purpose of a torture test. But if I started swinging a hammer like that in my garage, I think my wife would call the police.

If your needs are really just for sharpening lawnmower blades and other typical home owner types of uses then any homeowner grade vise will do just fine. Just go buy one at a big box store, or amazon. The $65 foward 4.5” industrial grade vise that Redragoon pointed out looks like it would outlast your great grandkids. Forward 1745A 4.5 Inch Heavy Duty Bench Vise with Built-in Pipe Jaws, Anvil and 360 Degree Swivel Base (4 1/2", Industrial Grade) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G57P2QL/?tag=atomicindus08-20


Unless you enjoy going to flea markets and yard sales, I don’t think it will be worth your time to spend the next dozen weekends driving to every flea market and yard sale in a 100 mile radius in the hopes of scoring a deal on an old American made vise that you will have to take apart and repair or restore before you can even use it. Do you want a vise or another project?
 
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