Vise restoration - hopefully easy question!

[mark-NJ]

Hi All,

I have two older vises that I'm going to restore. They work fine, but they're pretty beat up and can benefit from a ride in the degreaser at work followed by some bead blasting & some fresh paint.

Disassembly is straightforward, with one exception: the ring that holds the screw in....how does it come out so the screw can be removed?

This is a Dunlop 5244 (which I believe is a Sears brand from the late '50s). The ring appears to be pressed on:

This is a Columbian 43 and it was a friend's grandfathers. My friend is 60, so I suspect this might be old. The ring rides in a groove:

I surely don't want to break anything, and if it's wiser to end my disassembly here & leave the screws in, I could live with that.

So what's the trick to getting these rings out? Or do I leave well enough alone?

Thanks!

 

[drivesitfar]

Mark: is that 2 different vises or ?

if you can clean up the screw and it works great as is then my advice is to just regrease it.

it looks like the red one has a sleeve so turn the screw and see if there is a set screw.

i'm not sure what to say on the open screw vise so i'll wait and see what others say.

good luck

 

[mark-NJ]

Thank you for your response! yes, these are two different vises.

The black one....a Columbian 43...I figured out. And the answer is right there in the photo, but I didn't notice it until just this evening: See that little split in the ring? It turns out on closer inspection that the ring isn't continuous, it's just sort of "wrapped" around the screw in a raceway and closed tight on itself. Couple of wedges to open the split, and the ID became big enough to slide the ring off. When I'm done, it should be an easy task to "close it" back on the screw.

The red one....an old Dunlap...no set screw, no set pins, nothing. Unless someone knows the secret, I've decided to leave well enough alone and do the restoration with the screw in place.

 

[drivesitfar]

MARK: this type of question seems to come up a lot so maybe your answer is on the vise repair 101 thread I started maybe 5 years ago. it's pretty big so post up your pics with your comments over there and while you are doing your search maybe somebody that owns a vise like yours will have an answer.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830

good luck!!

 

[lis2323]

Drives. Thanks for posting that pic of my coffee machine. Think I’ll make a cup now...[emoji23]

 

[mark-NJ]

Before posting, I scoured that and another vise thread (hundreds of pages!) and used the search function for every term I could think of. Couldn't find anything...

 

[drivesitfar]

MARK: one tip to know is if you tried your best to search for your answer on a big thread you can post up your pics and questions on it and maybe others will help you. either they can refer you to a post not easily found or maybe they have the same vise.

before I was a member I used to GOOGLE old vises and tools and more than not it would direct me here so maybe try a GOOGLE search that might get you to the post on a thread here.

good luck

also these old open screw vises are light duty and not super valuable in most cases so while you are trying to maybe improve it for yourself you might spend that time looking for something a little bigger, older and spend your time and money on it.