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amolaver

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I've been an audi fan for nearly 15 years. Both Audi and VW's are very nice cars in my book, but not for the faint of heart. In my experience the failure rates are 3-4X's higher with them compared to the Honda/Acura's I've owned. And the parts prices are often very high as well. That said, a well-sorted 5 year old German car (or Mexican as the case may be) feels a lot more solid to me than a brand new japanese car off the line. But, it takes a special kind of person (patience and money) to keep that german car "well-sorted"! :) I put up with them, and they certainly test my patience, but when my family, who love the reliability of Toyota's and Honda's, ask about a VW and Audi, I steer them away. Even my wife has no tolerance for it. She rolls her eyes every time I tell her I found another issue with the Audi. ("why don't you buy a new car?")

That said, here are my thoughts.
If it has the 1.8T engine, in the A4's, those engines threw timing belts as early as 60K, even though Audi recommended 90K. The tensioners would **** out. If it's a 1.8T, I would do the TB now and every 60K thereafter. Water pump and thermostat as well while you're in there.

Skip the triple squares until you need them. CV job or anything that requires removing an axle will require them. For now just get that metric 3/8" allen head socket set. You will use those everywhere.

Brake tool - yes. 13mm ratcheting wrench and a super thin 15 mm wrench to counterhold the brake slide. Cycle shops usually sell that later, which works quite well. Vag.com - yes. Not just useful for electrical stuff. These cars have sensors everywhere, so being able to pull the codes, read the measuring blocks, etc. is very helpful. Can't own an older Audi/VW without these imho.

Start thinking about replacing the shocks. By 75K they start to deteriorate rapidly.

If that engine has coilpacks on it, keep at least one on the shelf for emergencies. Or for $100, replace all 4 and leave the originals on the shelf for emergencies.

If you have a turbo motor on that car, do 2 oil changes at 500 mile intervals with regular dino oil. If there is sludge in the system, you'll see it start to flush out, if not, great! Then switch to the recommended weight synthetic and stay on that. You should be fine at 5K intervals.

Watch out for plastic bits in the engine bay. If you touch them, fully expect them to disintegrate in your hands. If you don't touch them, consider them suspect anyway. When the car throws a code, there is a 50% chance it's one of those plastic bits under the hood.

Replace vacuum hoses. They will likely be brittle and ready to go. If the car has a diverter valve, replace that too.

Check for coolant leaks. The reservoir cap and hoses are likely suspects, get a visual on the end tanks of the radiator (probably plastic - remember what I said about plastic bits).

Wheel bearings - throw it around some on and off ramps and listen for the tell tale sounds. If you're doing the suspension and one of the wheel bearings are bad, may as well do them together. Do the wheel bearings in pairs. Usually the other side is within a few K of going bad anyway.

That's the stuff that comes to mind. If you have a good basic collection of tools, I wouldn't go crazy buying tools until the need arises.

+1 to all of this. i had a 99.5 vr6 jetta and have never been happier to get rid of a car. ate window regulators like a mofo (later recalled, vw wouldn't reimburse me). aux (elec) water pump failed, took out HVAC control module - neither covered by the powertrain warranty (ITS A WATER PUMP!). manual trans was terrible. 2nd and third both were crunchy very early on in life (<30K miles) - VW would not replace.

i maintained an AVG (i think) jetta for a friend - coil packs, all the plastic tubing under the hood (even the damn dipstick tube!) crumbled if touched. some sort of vacuum pump if memory serves. ate rear pads (~30K/set) again, a LOW mileage car - less than 60K as of last year.

the only 'special tools' you need are pockets full of cash and the patience of a monk.

ahm
 
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RKA

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All these rants, it seems people either have a great VW or a lemon. I had my 00 mk4 2.0 for 8 years (bought it used), drove it every day. Only left me stranded once when the alternator went out at 180,000ish. Other than normal wear and tear she was a great car. Hated to see her go.

One piece of advice, if the AC needs to be serviced both cooling fans will surge on and off if the ignition is on. I never traced the schematic through to figure out why that was/is.

It's interesting, once in a blue moon I find an owner that has stumbled on the elusive german unicorn. Dead reliable with rarely more than fluid and filter changes. I have a friend that bought an A4 new off the dealer lot. At 65K he put a larger turbo in it, doubled the horsepower and ran that car up to 200K before he sold it. 90% of the work was normal maintenance, and the remaining 10% was related to something he modded on the car (not Audi's fault). The current owner still has it on the road at 220K and even takes it to the track. That car is still more reliable than my 6 year newer Audi which has less than half the miles on the odo.

Congratulations on finding that unicorn! I dare you to try again! :)
 

CJKaz

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Drop me an email or PM. I have a VCDS cable that I will likely be parting with (along with the Audi).
 

Mstrfxit12

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My girl has a 2006 jetta 2.5 and its at 205,000 and climbing. Its been a good car with only minimal issues. Ive had to do a front hub, the master window switch( twice, she drives witht he windows open) some electronic bits here and there but so far nothing really exceeding typical maintenance. I had to buy a calliper wind back tool and a triple square set, and a service manual. Thats been it for me so far.
Oh and these cars must be built for girls because she has to change headlight bulbs herself because I cant get my hand in the bucket to get to the lamp.
 

RKA

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Drop me an email or PM. I have a VCDS cable that I will likely be parting with (along with the Audi).

That's a nice opportunity for the OP. Just one added thought that hasn't been mentioned. VCDS also has a generic OBDII function built in. Although ross-tech doesn't guarantee 100% compatibility with all OBDII vehicles, I would say I've found >90% compatibility on other cars I've tried (for friends, neighbors, coworkers, etc.). This feature will allow you to read and clear basic OBDII codes and read some other basic sensor data that relates to emissions. That list of basic stuff is pretty extensive though. So you may find it useful beyond just that VW if you don't have another similar tool.
 
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zakmartin

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My sister owned a 2001 Jetta. Back in 2003, she needed a brake job and I couldn't do it with the tools I owned, which were otherwise just fine for servicing almost every other car on the planet. I was dumbfounded that VW would use bolt patterns that were incompatable with a standard tool set. The dealership wanted $800 for a simple brake job. Then the lightbulb went off in my head. Of course! They use weird hardware so that you're forced to take the car to the dealership and get scalped on the cost.

She was constantly having problems with the car and sold it after it was paid off in 2004. She never did fix her brakes either. She just bought a new Honda Odyssey instead.

My favorite memory of that car was how the interior lighting matched the neon colors of the stage at the local **********. The purple and pink gauge cluster looked tacky as hell and it hurt your eyes at night.

My only other experience with VW was a 1970 bus with a Westfalia camper package that me and a buddy of mine restored and drove from Seattle to Tiajuana, Mexico... mostly at 50 mph.
 

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I think everyone's pretty well covered it. You'll need a set of triple squares for sure, not sure when they changed but the 4 piece set I bought back in the 90s now is not sufficient, you need the COMPLETE set of triple square/XZN bits to do brakes on newer VWs as the rear caliper carrier bolts are larger than whatever the big size in my set is (12mm? not sure) You'll need a set of Allen sockets as well. Also a good set of thinnish open end wrenches is sometimes useful as it seems that German tools (Hazet et. al.) are thinner typically than the usual US-market tools and sometimes a German wrench will work on a German car where an American wrench will not. (however, I've also found American applications where a German wrench is helpful, e.g. holding the slider pins on a GM truck rear caliper carrier while bolting up the caliper.)

Personally I like VWs, back a few years I drove nothing but 80's watercooled VWs and also bought a new '02 GTI 1.8T which my mom is driving today although it's rather rusty now after living in PA since '04ish. Then I migrated to RWD which is why I don't drive VW today. Unfortunately Porsche and BMW parts prices are a little bit higher than VW but you gotta pay to play.
 
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signcrafter

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Thanks for all the advice guys. She still hasn't found a car but is looking and her ****** is sitting in my garage with a cracked thermostat housing so hopefully she finds something soon because I'm sick of fixing this POS every week!

Looks like I have most tools. Need a few things like triple square bits and the tensioner wrench. I always buy a factory repair manual on disc off ebay for new vehicles I work on.
 
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