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Walker 93632 bleeds off.

Rikert

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Hi folks, New here, first post mainly because I was searching the issue with my floor jack. I have a walker 93632 that I have owned since new about 33 years ago. 2 issues that need attention, 1 which is just annoying is the plunger sticks when I push down to raise the front wheels and i need to pry it back up.. Not always but sometimes. Main issue is it starts bleeding off when raising the car, truck etc. Easy fix?? I have an engine shop, but never rebuilt a jack.. There are no leaks at all. can I just fix the bleed off problem? or do I have to get a complete repair kit.?? Best place to get the parts? Instructions? Thanks again folks.

Randy
Engine Machine Service.
Niles, Ohio
330-505-1804
 
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IMO you are wasting your time just fixing the Leak down problem, More than likely the Problem is with the Main Ram Seal and if your going to go to all the problem to address a 30+ year old Jack you Might as well clean it up, Replace the Ucup, Swap the Tank Seal and then move on to New Valve components, Pump Vee's and Release Oring. The issue with the Pump piston hanging is more than likely a bent Cage that is catching, but Worst case scenario it can be Piston/Cylinder issue, but normally this is followed up with some leakage.

Georgia Hybrid has a Thread that was linked by Mitusa, It will get you started and as always I recommend tear down and inspection prior to dishing out cash for Kits. Ive been sending a lot of members to Lazzar Hydraulics for Kits till I get some shop work caught up. It doesn't hurt to price shop, Be leery of any NOS kits on Ebay as they are OLD.. and will only cause you headaches.
 
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Rikert

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Great write up, I have the bottle assembly off. Lacking tools at the moment, Good thing is I could find no leaks. Before I go further Is sending the bottle assembly out to someone with the tools and experience in fixing these possible?

Randy
 

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Sending it out to repair is certainly possible but it is not cheap as most hydraulic repair shops will charge at least $100-120 on the low side. Consider yourself lucky it lasted 33 years. I have seen "newer" Lincoln 93642 with broken u-cups that lasted maybe 15 to 18 years. But the problem seem to be one were if the jack is used only occasionally, then the u-cup has time to harden and will eventually break up sooner than a jack that is used regularly, as the use seems to keep the u-cup material pliable for a longer time. Still, it will eventually come the day were the u-cup will become worn and/or brittle. At this point, the jack becomes dangerous as a brittle u-cup could break suddenly and drop the car in an instant. And even if you use jack stands, it still can be dangerous as it could drop the moment you are setting the stands under the car or removing them.

So, my recommendation to anyone using a jack with more than 20 years of age, and that has been used on a regular fashion, to replace the seals, just for safety reasons, if nothing else. No one uses their tires for 20 or 30 years nor their brake pads because these wear out. And so do the piston seals and the u-cups, as these are compressed against the cylinder wall when under load and they move out in the cylinder in a compressed state, so to prevent high friction and premature wear, the cylinders have to be well polished instead of having the cross hatching car engine cylinders have. This would wear the seals pretty fast if the jack is used every day, like in tire shop.

Check the links below for an animation of how an u-cup compresses against the cylinder.

http://systemseals.com/fea-animations/R01 Urethane Rod Seal.gif

http://systemseals.com/fea-animations/P27 Urethane Piston Seal.gif

If the jack is used a few times a year, or goes unused for some years because you have more than one jack, for example, consider replacing the seals after 10 to 12 years, even if you think these are in good shape, and save yourself some future grief. It is not too expensive if you can do it yourself. This applies to jacks using urethane u-cups or any other type of main seal made of urethane. Just consider that seals manufacturers have different "shelf life" for urethane u-cups; some state the shelf life as 5 years, others set it at 10 years. This does not necessarily defines or limits the working life of the seals but it gives you an idea that these seals do not last forever.

After all, these seals were meant to be changed at some point in time, just like the seals in any other type of hydraulic equipment but most jack owners want, and expect, the seals to last forever, so when the jack bleeds off, after many years of use, they are baffled as to what can be causing this. And the jack does not has to show an external leak to bleed down as the leak is internal. But yet, many people think that if the main ram seal is broken, or worn out, there must be an external leak, and if there isn't, then they think it is something else and not the main seal.
 
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Rikert

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Thank's to all that posted, just want to say I rebuilt the jack using your advice and information from the forum, Works great! Thank you again.

Randy
 
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