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Now I know there is going to be some people that disagree with this and want to argue their point....that's fine and I understand that but I enjoyed watching this video and found it to be spot on...at least with me. Except with the crowsfoot thing, but I only own 2 of them which I got for a specific job and never bothered to buy a whole set


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Don't have time to watch all 17 minutes, but I get the gist...

I don't disagree, but I think some people just like tools... like a hobby. They collect many styles, sizes, duplicates, whatever. Is it "needed", probably not. There's a good many threads on here with people showing off their "collections".

One guy has more hammers than I'd know what to do with. Other have DRAWS full of screwdrivers. And so on.

Personally I have other hobbies, so I can't spend all my money on tools and I love tools. I try to keep what I need and don't have many duplicates. Anything I don't use for a while or cheaper tools that get upgraded I toss or sell. I look at the tools my father has, in the business for 30+ yrs wrenching on MBs and sometimes it pails in comparison to what some post here.
 
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No time to watch the whole thing, but skimming through I'd say I definitely agree on the too many sockets issue......I've been making my living off my tools for 20 years and only just now buying some 1/2 drive chrome sockets based on the "just 'cause I want 'em" thing - got by fine with only impacts, one set of shorts and deeps, six point only up till now. Yes, I built up a pretty wide selection of 3/8 and 1/4 drive as needed, but even then I've kept it to only the basics plus specialty stuff required for specific jobs.

I heard him mention wasted space in a tool box, too. I'm the type that likes to be well organized for speed of the work, but I also want to pack as much in as possible - I don't buy a new tool box till stuff is getting stacked / piled up to the point it's costing me time to find what I need. I can't stand digging through loose piles of tools to find what I need in the middle of a job.
At the same time, I think the tool MFR's conspire agains ust to use up as much space as possible in eth tool box.....if you've been around a while you'll notice the trays stuff comes in now are significantly larger with more dead space than they where 15 /20 years ago.....all to get the techs money, IMO.
 

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It's his opinion. While I agree with some of his points. organization of a box is key. years ago I would spend too much time looking for something when I wasn't organized. The plastic tray comment is dead on. I use two. one for my pry bars and one for my torx drivers.
 

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Now I know there is going to be some people that disagree with this and want to argue their point....that's fine and I understand that but I enjoyed watching this video and found it to be spot on...at least with me. Except with the crowsfoot thing, but I only own 2 of them which I got for a specific job and never bothered to buy a whole set


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I'd say he spent more money on mind altering substances and tattoos than I have sockets. I can make money with sockets.
 

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Listening to it while I work. Guy is annoying. How can you say that someone doesn't need something when you don't know what they work on. His tone is that having SAE is unnecessary. Guess that is true when you only work on modern metric cars but if you tinker like a bunch of us do, then you need a big variety.
 

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I lasted 20 seconds

Why, why, why do I have some much ****??.......cause I can.
 

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I've watched a few of his videos when I was researching what to buy or watching something else & it got suggested. Seems like he caters to guys starting out in auto repair. Usually good advice for someone trying to get started with limited funds. I don't agree with everything but almost every new tech buys stuff like nut drivers or a bunch of sae then never use them. I know I have some **** I wish someone told me not to get. I do have more tools than I need & lay things out in trays (mostly thanks to you guys) but I know where everything is without digging around. Also he works at a dealership & probably doesn't need nearly as many specialty tools as the rest of us.


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It is a silly video. Of course he's right that no one needs every tool - but I know that.
 

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Too hard to watch that guy, I didn't it make than half a dozen F words. I don't mind a little swearing but...

On his point of too many specialty tools, if I wanted a guy to work on my stuff that made do with the wrong tools for the job, I'd do it myself!
 

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It seems like only the dealer and brand specific techs preach this kind of mentality.

I do agree with the nutdrivers, just a few for hose clamps. A whole set of metric and standard nutdrivers is just silly.
 
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I lasted 20 seconds

Why, why, why do I have some much ****??.......cause I can.

Bingo... Sounds like I don't even need to watch that nonsense...don't need that type of negativity in my life :lol_hitti

My dad is a tool a holic, as am I. Growing up I used to hear him say all the time "I don't drink, I don't smoke, I buy Tools"...and my mom was completely fine with that.

I'm the same way...and I do ALL my own work, so I justify it in terms of even if I spend I save...to do a head gasket job on a modern car would cost what? I can hop on the SO truck, buy myself a nice Techangle, AND the parts to do the job, have less money invested in the job AND have a tool in my toolbox for the next time.

Its my thing. My neighbor goes camping with his money, that's his thing...I think that's a complete waste. I should go post a 15 min YouTube rant on how going on vacations and camping is a complete waste of money.
 

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Vacations a waste of money.... that's a new one. I like working, but not all the time.
 

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Bingo... Sounds like I don't even need to watch that nonsense...don't need that type of negativity in my life :lol_hitti

My dad is a tool a holic, as am I. Growing up I used to hear him say all the time "I don't drink, I don't smoke, I buy Tools"...and my mom was completely fine with that.

I'm the same way...and I do ALL my own work, so I justify it in terms of even if I spend I save...to do a head gasket job on a modern car would cost what? I can hop on the SO truck, buy myself a nice Techangle, AND the parts to do the job, have less money invested in the job AND have a tool in my toolbox for the next time.

Its my thing. My neighbor goes camping with his money, that's his thing...I think that's a complete waste. I should go post a 15 min YouTube rant on how going on vacations and camping is a complete waste of money.
this is how i see it as well! :beer::beer:
 

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Most of my tool purchases, believe it or not, were AFTER I could have used them. For instance, I might struggle getting a job done with some tool I already have. Then when I am browsing some random tool aisle or catalog I see something that would have made that job easier, I buy it. Then I'll be ready for next time.

Now I do have what a non-GJ-member would consider "an inordinate amount of sockets". But, I have used something off each rack at some point. Have I used every size on every rack? No. I roll my eyes though when somebody condescendingly says "what do you need all this stuff for?". That just means that they have so little experience that they haven't needed that SPECIFIC tool, when no other would do. Where in my case, most of my tools were bought, not for the hell of it, but for a specific job (that I usually already did with the wrong tool once, lol).

For instance, I got tired of using a 3/8 socket + swivel adapter to get at a certain car's distributor hold-down. The socket was just a little too tall. I could engage the bolt and turn it, but it sure felt iffy (like I could round it off). So I bought a set of swivel sockets. Now it fits down on there nice, with full contact to the bolt. I have used the heck out of that swivel set.

My point, I guess is this- as long as you aren't going into debt or taking food out of your families mouth, buy whatever you want. Sure, you can fix 75% of the stuff out there with the Big Lots tool kit set in your mother's trunk, but the other 25% of the stuff calls for the other 99% of the tools in the world. If you don't know that, you just haven't tried to fix enough stuff ;)
 

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99% of the mechanic tool info on the web is for guys working on late model cars. I'm sure he is right for that market. However, there is a whole other world out there that he probably doesn't know about.

I work on heavy equipment, diesel engines, and large machine tools. Some days I might use one hex key and a multi meter. Other days it's all 3/4 and 1 drive tools. I mostly work with inch size fasteners.

I also use things like hook spanners and dial indicators frequently.


Lots of guys have tons of sockets. I'm not sure why. I had a set of 3/8 drive sockets up to 1". Most of the sockets over 3/4 I have never used. I finally go rid of them. For 1/2 drive, I just have impact sockets. I have some 12 points for 12 point head bolts.

Nut drivers are really handy for electricians. For mechanics they are a waste of space. Pick up a simple 4 way reversible screw driver. When you pull the screw driver bits out of either end you have a 1/4 and 5/16 nut driver. That will cover 90% of what I would want a nut driver for.

I also don't understand the multiple screwdriver sets. You need one and a set of stubbies. Some guys on here have 20+ screw drivers.

An air hammer is a must have tool IMO. I don't know how anyone works on drivetrain, brakes, or suspension without one.

I still can't figure out who needs semi deep sockets.

You need a good set of snap ring pliers.
 

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Vacations a waste of money.... that's a new one. I like working, but not all the time.

I don't mean not taking & using my vacation time, I mean going places to burn money. When I'm on vacation from work I and we like to say home, or at most go for a 300 mile ride north to see our parents, etc...
Spending 10k on a cruise or flying somewhere is a waste...get back home and only have a handful of pics and a sunburn to show for it... We didn't even do a honeymoon...used the money we got at our wedding to buy a nice new family vehicle and then got to work on filling it up with rug rats :pimpflash
 
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To answer his comment "Why do you buy the whole set when you only need a few sizes"? Well sometimes the price of 1 or 2 pieces is more than 1/2 the price of a full set. So the way I see it, buy the set and if you need the other size sometime down the line, you have it and have not paid a fortune for it.
 

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didn't watch but get the gist. on one hand he is right. I used that logic with my wife in her kitchen. too many gadgets she never uses, not organized properly, etc. then she said how many ratchets do you have? why do you have more than one tool box full of tools you never use? I no longer criticize anyone (especially SWBO) on their choice of hobby/tool/whatever they want to spend their money on lest my glass house get pelted with stones...I just went to lunch a few minutes ago and bought the last dusty old stock kobalt Taiwan 3/8 ratchet/socket set at lowes for $19, knowing full well I have 11 complete sets of sockets in cases already...whatever floats your boat (or fills your shop)...
 

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I couldn't handle more then 10 seconds of that guy. I also love it when people tell me I have too many tools or "why do you need that?". Makes it easier to tell them no when they ask to borrow.
 

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My dad is a tool a holic, as am I. Growing up I used to hear him say all the time "I don't drink, I don't smoke, I buy Tools"...and my mom was completely fine with that.

When my wife gets on my case about being in the garage for long periods I tell her something similar.
"I'm not at a bar getting drunk or causing problems, I'm here at home, just in the garage"

BTW, aren't you supposed to own tools you don't really need if you are a member on GJ?:thumbup:
 

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99% of the mechanic tool info on the web is for guys working on late model cars. I'm sure he is right for that market. However, there is a whole other world out there that he probably doesn't know about.

I work on heavy equipment, diesel engines, and large machine tools. Some days I might use one hex key and a multi meter. Other days it's all 3/4 and 1 drive tools. I mostly work with inch size fasteners.

I also use things like hook spanners and dial indicators frequently.


Lots of guys have tons of sockets. I'm not sure why. I had a set of 3/8 drive sockets up to 1". Most of the sockets over 3/4 I have never used. I finally go rid of them. For 1/2 drive, I just have impact sockets. I have some 12 points for 12 point head bolts.

Nut drivers are really handy for electricians. For mechanics they are a waste of space. Pick up a simple 4 way reversible screw driver. When you pull the screw driver bits out of either end you have a 1/4 and 5/16 nut driver. That will cover 90% of what I would want a nut driver for.

I also don't understand the multiple screwdriver sets. You need one and a set of stubbies. Some guys on here have 20+ screw drivers.

An air hammer is a must have tool IMO. I don't know how anyone works on drivetrain, brakes, or suspension without one.

I still can't figure out who needs semi deep sockets.

You need a good set of snap ring pliers.

Semi deep sockets are usefull for outdoor power equipment, you can do without but they are nice to fit in some places. A guy gave me a snap on semi deep set and I use them more then expected.
 

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I still remember when I was working in the garage (1962) and one of the other mechanics had an inexpensive set of 3/8" drive 12 point sockets. When he encountered a rounded nut he had to borrow a 6 point from someone. He finally got religion and traded in his junk for Snap on 6 point set. The next vehicle he worked on was a Studebaker V 8 which had all fasteners with 12 point heads.

The moral is, what you don't have you will need on the next job.
 

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Like someone already said, if you work only on a certain brand of vehicle or equipment then sure I can understand his points. However I maintain/repair an entire fleet and need to fix anything from a weed wacker to a backhoe.
 

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I'd rather waste my money than my time listening to that burned out :rocker: hard ***. What a loser!!! :lol_hitti
He's a tool
 

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Guy in the video speaks the truth.

The people on this forum don't like hearing what their wives have been telling them for years.

A lot of the people I work with think that there's a correlation between the price of the tool they are using and their craftsmanship.

So likewise, having a lot of tools must have some correlation to feeling like you're more capable.

If you don't need it and it doesn't make you work more efficiently, you shouldn't buy it IMO.
 
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I guess Im the only one that truly enjoyed this video, I couldnt stop laughing and this guy is right on the money in my opinion.....unless of course your a collector and collecting tools is your hobby.

Thanks for posting this, absolutely hilarious.

17 minutes was not enough, I need to hear more. The dim lighting set the mood for sure.
 

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This guy needs to do stand-up, I watched it again, Jerry Seinfeld better watch out.

The guys obviously a hack but Im pretty sure he is having a good time here, he gets it. Its funny cause its true, crowsfeet, seriously, never had to use one.

What a hack :)
 
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I disagree on a few points especially nut drivers I use my 1/4 and 5/16 everyday on hose clamps and screwdriver sets i always keep an extra set for backup

And 1/4 I use a lot and can get into places a 3/8 cannot

And if he ever worked on and Audi/vw made in the past 10 years you will have all types of sockets and specialty tools

And lastly organization is key for me to know where it is and when you need it instead of digging thru drawer for 5 minutes

And if you work on Asian and American a basic tool set will get you by but it's easier with nice tools
 

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I disagree on a few points especially nut drivers I use my 1/4 and 5/16 everyday on hose clamps and screwdriver sets i always keep an extra set for backup

Get one of these. https://www.grainger.com/product/GREENLEE-Multi-Bit-Screwdriver-5KPJ1?functionCode=P2IDP2PCP

Now you have the only two nut drivers any mechanic needs and a back up set of screw drivers.

5KPJ1_AS01
 

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Since he mentions he is back at Yucca and I checked out another video of his, I'm guessing he is in Yucca Valley, the hi-desert area of the Mojave. I see things evidently haven't changed much since I was stationed at 29 Palms.

Even if you only buy the tools you need to do the job, over the years you'll have a box full of tools if you keep them.
 

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I went back and listened to the whole thing while I was doing something else. The guy is an idiot. Most of what I heard was "blah blah blah, I'm a brokedick" with the F word tossed in a couple dozen times for good measure. It's obvious he doesn't have much experience working on a variety of vehicles. Just sounds like a knuckle dragger.

So I was curious and looked at a few other videos on his channel. For someone that spends most of this video talking about wasting money, he sure has plenty of rebranded tool truck tools he could have got much cheaper elsewhere. A little hypocritical. Then one of his comments in a video says "my shop foreman has every tool for every job and when needed for a certain job I go and ask" ...... hmmm

Only thing I agree with is the nut driver deal, but not for the reasons he stated. My reasoning is that if there is room for your hand and a nut driver, there is room for a battery impact driver. And crows foot and semi deeps get plenty of use in my day to day...
 

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Is that dude drunk? I understand him trying to pass on his experience to hopefully benefit someone else, but if having a tool makes me happy I'm getting the tool. Had the video on in the background and in the end he does pull up his beer! Drink on and fix on!
 

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I only watched about 10 sec. of his video, after the 50th f word I shut him down.
I have a had time with a guy who is living in his parent's basement, wearing a good will shirt trying to tell me what I need and don't need.
 

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This is what I thought. Maybe if you do Hondas oil changes all day or do 6.0 head gaskets one after another you won't need many tools but when you never know what's coming through the door you need to be prepared for the worst.

I went back and listened to the whole thing while I was doing something else. The guy is an idiot. Most of what I heard was "blah blah blah, I'm a brokedick" with the F word tossed in a couple dozen times for good measure. It's obvious he doesn't have much experience working on a variety of vehicles.Just sounds like a knuckle dragger.

So I was curious and looked at a few other videos on his channel. For someone that spends most of this video talking about wasting money, he sure has plenty of rebranded tool truck tools he could have got much cheaper elsewhere. A little hypocritical. Then one of his comments in a video says "my shop foreman has every tool for every job and when needed for a certain job I go and ask" ...... hmmm

Only thing I agree with is the nut driver deal, but not for the reasons he stated. My reasoning is that if there is room for your hand and a nut driver, there is room for a battery impact driver. And crows foot and semi deeps get plenty of use in my day to day...
 
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