watch the shipping on ebay
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hammergodthor
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Just report him! Ebay will be all over it so fast it'll make your head spin. Those greedy so-and-so's (Ebay) hate losing money. 
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warmpancakes
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already done
2chipped
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I left a message with him in case it was a mistake
or trying to get out of fees
or trying to get out of fees
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warmpancakes
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it wasnt a mistake look at his other items he has a few that way almost got me
knobby
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That's pretty typical if he was shipping to Canada well slight exaggeration but not that much seriously.
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warmpancakes
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wows they screw you guys usually its 2-3 bucks more you guys are the 51st state
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He does that to save on ebay final value fees. Not right but people do it
Cool. Report him. And then watch the minimum bid price go up as sellers try to recover their fees the more 'legitimate' way. The only reason you have sellers pull **** like that is because eBay fees are unreasonable.
Likewise, I've stopped listing stuff on eBay because I'm not about to absorb paypal fees to receive money, more fees to get real cash, and then hope they decide I can keep my money.
Likewise, I've stopped listing stuff on eBay because I'm not about to absorb paypal fees to receive money, more fees to get real cash, and then hope they decide I can keep my money.
scott37300
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I sent him a message asking if that was for overnight express shipping and he already replied saying "no sir, regular priority"
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Well, I think it's a lousy thing to do, but in all honesty... shame on you if you don't check EVERYTHING before bidding on e-bay. Feedback, shipping, other auctions, zoom in on pics, etc.
Howells
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ask him, if you win can you pick it up and save the shipping fees
Joe From NY
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i just sent him this message: "is this absurd shipping charge a typo, or are you just trying to avoid paying ebay fees?", then i reported his listing!
Have any of you sold anything on ebay lately? The fees are killing it. eBay makes more in fees than I do off the items I sell sometimes. If you charge high shipping but low actual purchase price, you lower the fee amount paid to ebay thereby lowering the total amount you can/will charge. This isn't done to trick people it's done to keep costs lower.
If you owned a shop and your rent was $500 vs. $5,000, you could charge customers less and still make the same money. Everyone wins (except the landlord). This is what guys are doing.
Why you people feel the need to report this stuff is beyond me, it's called being a narc and nobody likes a narc. Do you have a badge that says "ebay police" on it? If not mind your own business.
If you owned a shop and your rent was $500 vs. $5,000, you could charge customers less and still make the same money. Everyone wins (except the landlord). This is what guys are doing.
Why you people feel the need to report this stuff is beyond me, it's called being a narc and nobody likes a narc. Do you have a badge that says "ebay police" on it? If not mind your own business.
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truckdriver
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If you don't like the fees ebay charges, then don't use ebay. I reported the listing. If that makes me a "narc" then fine. It also makes people who pull this **** thieves.
**** like that is part of the reason why I don't Ebay much. Agree that you gotta look at shipping costs, but an auction like that is just a scam. If he doesn't scam you, he's scamming ebay. I have no love for the Ebay corporation but it's their game and you know the rules.
Part of the draw of an Ebay auction is that you as a buyer might pay what the item is really worth but if you are saavy, you might get a good deal. This type of scam ensures that you won't get a good deal. You'll pay exactly what the seller wants you to pay or is he's lucky, he might get more than it's worth. There's no risk for him. He's assuring himself of the price he wants.
To those that think he's only trying to get over on Ebay, why not sell a hundred dollar item for a $10 buy it now with $90 shipping? Because he's also hoping that someone won't notice the shipping and pay more. He's not just trying to scam Ebay, he's trying to scam the buyer too. It's a transparent scam, but a scam none the less.
Treat people honestly not like a **** and you won't get narced on. I personally love it when people on CL create posts to out sellers that are trying to scam others. It's a form of self police.
Part of the draw of an Ebay auction is that you as a buyer might pay what the item is really worth but if you are saavy, you might get a good deal. This type of scam ensures that you won't get a good deal. You'll pay exactly what the seller wants you to pay or is he's lucky, he might get more than it's worth. There's no risk for him. He's assuring himself of the price he wants.
To those that think he's only trying to get over on Ebay, why not sell a hundred dollar item for a $10 buy it now with $90 shipping? Because he's also hoping that someone won't notice the shipping and pay more. He's not just trying to scam Ebay, he's trying to scam the buyer too. It's a transparent scam, but a scam none the less.
Treat people honestly not like a **** and you won't get narced on. I personally love it when people on CL create posts to out sellers that are trying to scam others. It's a form of self police.
I don't anymore. Lots of folks have stopped selling. You can't find near the quantity of goods on it as you once could.
+1 Lhorn
I don't think it is right. Am I going to report it? No, I got better things to do than police ebay. Thats their job. Am I going to buy from that seller? NO! I understand people wanting to save a buck, but to me that practice is shady and makes me feel that they are a shady seller.
I don't think it is right. Am I going to report it? No, I got better things to do than police ebay. Thats their job. Am I going to buy from that seller? NO! I understand people wanting to save a buck, but to me that practice is shady and makes me feel that they are a shady seller.
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How is it a scam? The seller's shipping rates are clearly listed. How is this any more of a scam than listing a price as $0.99 instead of $1.00? How is this any more of a scam than setting a ridiculously high buy it now fee and/or a high reserve? eBay fees are way out of line, and there haven't been good deals on there for years now. Not liking the price does not a scam make.
I guess we have different definitions of scam. If you are presenting the item is such a way that naive buyer might pay more than it's worth, that's a scam to me.
Put it this way: some loser comes to the door of your elderly parents or grandparents. He sells them an $800 carport and then charges them $5000 for the 4 hours of labor it takes to assemble it. Is that a scam? Are you gonna be personally cool with a person treating your parents in this manner or are you pissed that they were taken advantage of? After all, they should have known better right?
It's a scam because they are creating a situation where a naive buyer might pay a lot more for shipping than it's worth. They are also scamming Ebay. Period. Don't come back to me with some ******** about Ebay's fees. You know the rules going in. It's a scam and you know it. It doesn't matter that it's a faceless corporation. It's not Ok to scam someone just because you don't know them or because they weren't saavy enough to catch on. There are a lot of people out there with fairly marginal intelligence that are trying to survive on their own and live a regular life. It's Ok that they didn't notice you charged $50 to send an item that cost $3.25 to ship? That's cool right? That's honorable?
What do those other things have to do with anything? Not liking ebay's fees isn't a scam and no one said it is and you know it. Setting an ultra high shipping fee to get maximize your profit at the expense of Ebay is a scam. It's not even debatable. Many people don't like Ebay and therefore have no problem with it, but it's a scam and you know it. You can rationalize it, sure, but if you are being honest, you know it's trying to get over on someone. It's a scam.
Frankly, it's not a huge deal to me. Although I do consider it a bit of a scam, it's a pretty obvious one that I'm not likely to fall for. The only way it really bugs me is that I have to wade through the dozens of losers trying to sell HF trash for 50% more than it costs new telling you what a great deal it is.
Put it this way: some loser comes to the door of your elderly parents or grandparents. He sells them an $800 carport and then charges them $5000 for the 4 hours of labor it takes to assemble it. Is that a scam? Are you gonna be personally cool with a person treating your parents in this manner or are you pissed that they were taken advantage of? After all, they should have known better right?
It's a scam because they are creating a situation where a naive buyer might pay a lot more for shipping than it's worth. They are also scamming Ebay. Period. Don't come back to me with some ******** about Ebay's fees. You know the rules going in. It's a scam and you know it. It doesn't matter that it's a faceless corporation. It's not Ok to scam someone just because you don't know them or because they weren't saavy enough to catch on. There are a lot of people out there with fairly marginal intelligence that are trying to survive on their own and live a regular life. It's Ok that they didn't notice you charged $50 to send an item that cost $3.25 to ship? That's cool right? That's honorable?
What do those other things have to do with anything? Not liking ebay's fees isn't a scam and no one said it is and you know it. Setting an ultra high shipping fee to get maximize your profit at the expense of Ebay is a scam. It's not even debatable. Many people don't like Ebay and therefore have no problem with it, but it's a scam and you know it. You can rationalize it, sure, but if you are being honest, you know it's trying to get over on someone. It's a scam.
Frankly, it's not a huge deal to me. Although I do consider it a bit of a scam, it's a pretty obvious one that I'm not likely to fall for. The only way it really bugs me is that I have to wade through the dozens of losers trying to sell HF trash for 50% more than it costs new telling you what a great deal it is.
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supertooljunkie
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I refuse to bid on an item if the shipping is more than the item will ever sell for. Especially something like the shipping charges on that listing. True, the shipping charges are outrageous, but if someone is so careless as to bid on it without checking the shipping charges before bidding, or contacting the seller about them, oh whoa is them! That is stupidity on the bidders part.
If the installer quotes them $5800, who's being taken advantage? Shipping charges are clearly listed on the auction page. The eBay search will sort items by current bid + shipping by default. In fact, the last time I used eBay it kept requesting my zip code so that it could calculate shipping fees.
And by your logic the percentage that the seller will be paying ebay is known before hand as well...so you'd have to agree that ebay's fees are fair right? So there is no argument to be made that these sellers are just doing this because ebay's fees have gotten out of hand. They are posted for all to see and therefore are fair.
Not at all. That eBay's fees are known ahead of time means that eBay fees are not a scam. By its very definition, a scam requires deceit[1]. Of course you don't really know what the fees are going to be -- eBay sellers are required to accept PayPal, and PayPal has their own fee schedule that (in some cases) varies depending on how the buyer pays you. So you may lose a few percent or you may not.
And, really, if you want to talk about fair, please do consider the variety of sellers offering SnapOn products versus the number of auction houses.
1: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=scam
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My screwdrivers are striking prybars, And I use them with no safety glasses, lol
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My thoughts are this, they guy is trying to make a living. Ebay will get their money some here the other paypal. Most of the guys who sell here ask to get the funds via paypal gift to avoid the high fees. Quit crying, even at a total if 114 dollars they were a good deal. Ebay also says they have "Seller Protection" Thats and outright scam. To all the guys who reported this guy just remember that may be taking food off of someones table. If you don't look at the shipping charges you don't need to be shopping ebay. I guess some of you just get your kicks at other peoples expence when it doesn't concern you. When you see 250 dollars worth of prybars selling that low on a buy it now. you should know. Quit your crying.
kythri
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For all the people defending the eBay losers with exorbitant shipping:
eBay's fee's are higher to compensate for slime like this seller. People like this seller are responsible for eBay "screwing" the honest sellers.
Mind my own business? I am. I sell on eBay and follow the rules while idiots like this ruin it for me. When I see someone violating the rules, I report them. If you're not going to abide by the rules, piss off and sell elsewhere.
I hope the bleeding hearts can forgive me if I'm not going to get too broken up about "taking food" from a thief's table, because that's what someone like this is - a thief, defrauding eBay's system to avoid paying them the money he/she agreed to pay eBay when they signed up and listed the option. A thief that, in essence, is taking money off of MY table when I go to sell, in the form of higher fees.
I find it comical that people that obey the rules and work inside the system get belittled for it, and those that openly violate it are defended as if they're some kind of modern-day Robin Hood. Get a grip on reality, and quit YOUR crying.
eBay's fee's are higher to compensate for slime like this seller. People like this seller are responsible for eBay "screwing" the honest sellers.
Mind my own business? I am. I sell on eBay and follow the rules while idiots like this ruin it for me. When I see someone violating the rules, I report them. If you're not going to abide by the rules, piss off and sell elsewhere.
I hope the bleeding hearts can forgive me if I'm not going to get too broken up about "taking food" from a thief's table, because that's what someone like this is - a thief, defrauding eBay's system to avoid paying them the money he/she agreed to pay eBay when they signed up and listed the option. A thief that, in essence, is taking money off of MY table when I go to sell, in the form of higher fees.
I find it comical that people that obey the rules and work inside the system get belittled for it, and those that openly violate it are defended as if they're some kind of modern-day Robin Hood. Get a grip on reality, and quit YOUR crying.
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warmpancakes
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Its not thats hes trying to avoid ebay fees he also screwing any possible returns he allows returns but ebay does not make you refund shipping charges so when somebody buys them and realizes they arent "striking" prybars and wants to return them they only get the BIN money refunded not the inflated shipping prices
kc-steve
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Good call, Lhorn. If someone scams eBay then who's to say that they won't scam you as well. I'm often leery of scammers on eBay and this example is a BIG RED FLAG to avoid that guy.
And for you honest sellers, this guy is hurting you as well when honest people see this and avoid eBay altogether.
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Let he who is with sin cast the first stone. Judge not yet you be judged. Think about it before you call someone a theif. We all have a few skeletons in the closet.
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That's not true. Ebay will refund you the purchase price plus shipping and all you have to do is pay the return shipping. So you would only lose actual shipping charges to send them back to him.