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Water base vs solvent

Lew W

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The eternal question. I have a six month old clean concrete floor. Called Rustoleum and they said that for residential use the water base is just as good as the solent base. What do you experienced guys say? Lew W:eyecrazy:
 
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cooljw

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What Rustoleum probably meant was that for residential use, your floor won't experience the kind of wear and tear that would make using the stronger solvent-based formula beneficial.

From what I understand, the solvent-based stuff is always more durable and long lasting. It is also able to penetrate into the concrete more than water-based.

Rustoleum themselves calls their solvent-based formula the "Professional" version, for industrial use.
 

bmwpower

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Go with solvent based. What's the price delta? Like $20-30 per kit?

The solvent based stuff will outlast the water based stuff. The solvent based stuff will smell more, though, so kick your family out of the house for the weekend if you plan to coat an attached garage.

For the "typical" homeowner, the residential kit may do. Less smell, easy cleanup, cheaper. Garage junkies demand the best you can get - and that's solvent based stuff.
 

bjo

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I just used the Rustoleum solvent based kit a few weeks ago. Man, that stuff smells real bad. You will need a good respirator or you will have some dead brain cells. I'd rather kill mine with alcohol than with paint.
 

bjo

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btw, www.hardwareworld.com has the rustoleum professional for $89+shipping for a 2gal kit! Lowe's and HD sell the water based version for the same price. It says it does 3-400 sq ft, but I covered a little over 500 sq ft. The Rust-o' professional is great stuff!
 
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89vert

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I am an industrial sales rep for Rust-oleum.The water based kits are designed for the consumer / home-owner market and they typically satisfy the needs of most of the the intended users.The water based product has low odor and sells at a price point that is acceptable for the average person.
But .. the majority of people on this site are looking for a more durable finish and for those applications the Industrial / Commercial solvent-based product is vastly supe
rior.
 

oldgoat

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I put the kerosene and tung oil on my garage floor and will be doing the final buffing and cleaning tomorrow. The smell is kind of strong if you leave it closed up like I had to the week or so, but this week I was able to leave it open 24/7. Will find out what it is like when I have to leave it closed.
 

sjsfire

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oldgoat said:
I put the kerosene and tung oil on my garage floor and will be doing the final buffing and cleaning tomorrow. The smell is kind of strong if you leave it closed up like I had to the week or so, but this week I was able to leave it open 24/7. Will find out what it is like when I have to leave it closed.


Thats the second time I've heard of this. You may have posted earlier about the kerosene-tung oil mixture. Please give us more information, kerosene to tung oil ratio, prep, your experiences, likes-dislikes, etc. Thanks
 

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It was probably me. The mixture was a 50/50 mix. It was applied over new concrete that was cured with no spills on it yet. Cleaned with TSP and then rinsed with fresh water. After drying put the mix down with a 1/4in nap paint roller and then buffed it in with a scotch brite pad. Waited a week and redid it. 2 days later did a final buffing. The floor came out looking just a little darker, but it was a time consuming effort which probably rules it out for many. I know that it has been put down in maintenance buildings so it should be effective. I didn't want the paint because I have seen it here at work and I don't like how it gets slick when something gets spilled on it and if it gets damaged it looks ugly and I don't think that it would be easy to patch and have it look right. I'm not interested in a show garage, but more into one that is one I can work in and not have to mess with that much. The odor is the worst dislike of it other than the buffing because you are on a slick surface so it is a little dangerous. I don't know what the issues might be with welding in it, but I don't have a welder yet and the kerosene is just a carrier and will evaporate after a while.
 
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