Water coming in under door
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PelicanPines
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You need to remove the row of pavers closest to the house. Install a drainage system the pulls the water away. Look at driveway drains. Might need to fill the gap with 3/4 stone to fill in... giving some additional drainage before it gets to your door.
b-boy
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Sounds like your patio is the issue. Is it sloped away from the door?
PelicanPines
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so... in a layered view... after removing the first row of pavers.
House
3/4" Stone
Driveway drain
Existing patio pavers...
House
3/4" Stone
Driveway drain
Existing patio pavers...
pattenp
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I have the identical problem with a man door. It's not so much the paver bricks but it's the fact I have no roof or overhang protecting the door and rain hitting on top of the metal threshold leaks in around the jams. I have had to cut off about 6 inches or so of the bottom of the jambs and brick molds and replace with PVC molding that doesn't soak up water and rot.
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TriumphFan
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Yes.
It's not coming from a flow of water per se but rather the dripping from the 2nd story eaves and rain drops. If that makes sense...
Kevin54
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It looks like your caulking has gave out under the door.
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TriumphFan
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That is probably what has happened with mine. Water drips and splashes on the aluminum threshold because the bottom five or six inches of the door will be wet. The only overhang I have is from the 2nd story eaves and gutters.
Sevenhills1952
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Could you make or buy an awning? We have them on doors just above them. Nice putting key in lock during rain, no rot, no snow.
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pattenp
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The problem with those prehung doors is the jamb ends aren't usually sealed/painted and the end grain soaks up the water and the swelling and contraction makes the caulking fail.
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TriumphFan
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Could you make or buy an awning? We have them on doors just above them. Nice putting key in lock during rain, no rot, no snow.
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I think that would be one solution. It would have to fit the design of the house though so probably something custom/expensive.
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TriumphFan
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Not a prehung door and I did have the repairman seal the wood before he replaced the bottom six inches.
I think an overhang of some sort maybe the only solution.
PelicanPines
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When I redid my lower foot of door rot... I sealed the back like it was a flat roof... rubber etc... it's more solid there than the rest of the door.
Water... keep it away from the house, doors, window edges... as best you can.
MetalBuildingFun
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A storm door will keep the rain off the door.
nadogail
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I added a bent piece of metal at the bottom of the door to deflect the water away.
Leaflessshadetree
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I looks like the pavers are sloping toward the door. They have probably settled from being stepped on. I'd raise them within 2-3 ft from the door. It might require lowering the rest.
This is where I would start as well. Had a similar issue on my french door on my build, and realized I had never gotten around to caulking the bottom. Hasn't leaked since.
Sureshot
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I had a spot I was concerned about in the past and I milled my own bottom from solid composite.
Sevenhills1952
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Years ago I had awnings made for the house. House white/black trim so they made white with black bands. Easy to install, best thing I ever did. Always dry under doors, great while unlocking or groceries, no snow, door mats last. They weren't that expensive. Garage I made to match (beige & white trim steel).
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Bretny
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Cawlk shouldn't be a primary source of waterproofing.
If your getting splashing on the walls from the lack of gutters I would be putting on gutters. It also looks like your patio is to high and the sand between them has been filled with dirt this dosnt allow for much drainage...gutters first however.
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TriumphFan
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There are gutters on the 2nd story. The sand is polymeric.
I had the same problem with a cement pad that was lower than the patio.
I really think it is just the splash from the threshold.
Joemctag
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Yeah, it should have had a storm door with the door opening inward like that. A generous canopy is good also. I’d keep an eye on your siding and be thinking about your sheathing under it. It’s best to keep your exterior surface well below (like 6”) anything that can rot. Even if you had concrete patio, a driving rain wets the bottom edge of the siding and with some clearance , it can dry out faster. Water is the great destroyer: with both rust and rot, the damage depends on the time something stays wet. If it dries out fast, that’s better than staying wet a long time. You probably can’t easily lower your whole patio. But just be aware that it’s not ideal having the pavers right below the siding.
Joemctag
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Hey, everybody. I just noticed that the thread that I replied to is 2 1/2 months old. Sorry.
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TriumphFan
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No worries Joe. I appreciate the insight.
No way to lower the patio. I cleaned the gutters above the door (Leafguard so the surface needs to be squeaky clean) and that has helped. I also refinished the door and replaced the last inch of wood that was rotting. I should probably re-caulk the threshold.
Worsedog
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How about an out swing door?