Weaver W-Pro 10 vs Forward DP10an422 ???

[VtecGSR95]

Good morning to all!

Getting close to finishing my home hobby shop, and about to order a lift. Being a dealer tech @ about 6'3" tall, I've always had to squat under a standard Rotary lift just a little.

That said, I have been looking for an extended height lift.......not just for the truck with a ladder rack, but one that actually will lift higher than normal.

The Forward DP10an422 actually has an additional 3" of rise height with the extended height model for a total of 74 3/4" without adapters, and best price I've found is about $3600 + tax and typically free shipping.

The Derek Weaver W-Pro10 is a sweet unit, albeit a copy of a rotary/forward without the branding, but only lifts to 71 5/8" without adapters. This one comes in at $3069 + tax and free shipping.

I am just trying to find out:

a) has anyone used these weaver lifts with success? Reviews on their site are very good.
b) has anyone purchased this specific forward lift for the extended lift height, and was it worth it?

I understand both lifts are ali certified, both china made, both 10,000lb, etc., and it appears in many ways you might be buying the same product in slightly different packaging?

Just wanted some advice from the Garage Journal experts! If its worth the extra $500 for the Forward, I would buy it all day. But if its not really worth it, I would be OK with the non-name brand lift. I am by no means a brand snob, and I am trying to function within a budget like anyone else. I've not been able to work under any "extended height" lift before in the real world to know if its a noticeable difference. BUT, I am a buy once cry once kinda guy!

Thanks in advance!

 

[like2wheel]

Bumping this because I have the same question.Except I didn't notice the lifting height difference.

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[coe]

I've had the Weaver W-Pro 10 for about two years now. I'm 6'1" and with the adapters, I've had no issues with headroom. I like the asymmetric loading as I have had my Wrangler, Chevelle, F-150, Liberty, Kia Sorento and even my funny car on the lift at one point or another. I've had them pulled in forwards and backwards depending on which end I was working on. Getting in and out of the vehicle's cab has been no problem either. In my last career I was a mechanic and spent a lot of time under lifts of all different makes and models; I've never felt unsafe under the Weaver. I set the arms, raise the lift a foot or so off the ground and shake the hell out of it. I then check to make sure nothing shifted.

I see that the price of the lift has increased since I purchased it, but I feel it is still a great price. I don't think you will be disappointed.

~Ron

 

[like2wheel]

I guess I was comparing the Weaver to the Forward I10. It seem like the Weaver W-Pro is more like the Forward I10, since that DP10an422 looks to have a 14' overall height.

Thanks coe for your thoughts, I was wondering how practical it was to load a vehicle backwards with the 3 stage arms.



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[ncfireman1918]

I have a Weaver W Pro 10 that I purchased in March and installed myself. I have used it a dozen or so times so far, so not a ton of experience with it yet.
That being said, I did a diesel particulate filter on my Mercedes E250, and just did an oil change on my wife's Passat last week. I'm right at 6'4", and had to squat just a bit under both cars (basically stood with my feet wider than I normally would, and that got me enough headroom). That was with the lower pad adapters, because of the ride height on both cars. If I had a Jeep or pickup truck on there, where I could get the tall adapters under it, I think that I would have been able to stand completely straight and work. Side note on the W Pro 10... if you look up the ALI certificate on the ALI website, it actually lists Rotary as the manufacturer. I felt pretty good about the price, and knowing that I essentially have a red Rotary in my shop. There are a couple of pics in my garage thread below. If I had it to do over again, I'd buy the same lift in a second. I love it. Good luck with the search. I remember that it can be overwhelming.

*Edit to add** I installed mine at the widest and tallest dimensions. There are a couple of choices available when you do the install.

-Chris

 

[VtecGSR95]

I have a Weaver W Pro 10 that I purchased in March and installed myself. I have used it a dozen or so times so far, so not a ton of experience with it yet.
That being said, I did a diesel particulate filter on my Mercedes E250, and just did an oil change on my wife's Passat last week. I'm right at 6'4", and had to squat just a bit under both cars (basically stood with my feet wider than I normally would, and that got me enough headroom). That was with the lower pad adapters, because of the ride height on both cars. If I had a Jeep or pickup truck on there, where I could get the tall adapters under it, I think that I would have been able to stand completely straight and work. Side note on the W Pro 10... if you look up the ALI certificate on the ALI website, it actually lists Rotary as the manufacturer. I felt pretty good about the price, and knowing that I essentially have a red Rotary in my shop. There are a couple of pics in my garage thread below. If I had it to do over again, I'd buy the same lift in a second. I love it. Good luck with the search. I remember that it can be overwhelming.

*Edit to add** I installed mine at the widest and tallest dimensions. There are a couple of choices available when you do the install.

-Chris

Good info Chris.

I think that small cars will be a majority of what I see on my lift, but it could be anything, its so unpredictable!

But what you mentioned about spreading your feet apart......this is what I was trying to avoid. I wish I knew for sure if the DP10a would overcome this issue.....I'm OK with spending the extra money if I'm getting more. But I would like some real world feedback.

 

[Lamakocklee]

Don't know if this is a deal breaker or not for either model but just wanted to throw this out there...

The Forward I10 and DP10 are both direct pull designs.. the weaver is a push.

I honestly don't think it makes a difference but some companies argue one is better than the other. Interesting enough as both are made by VSG..

 

[Lamakocklee]

Oh.. and one more thought... the Forward models I believe are self bleeding.. The weaver has bleed screws on top of the cylinders and requires manual bleeding.


Weaver

18. Oil Filling & Bleeding: Use Dexron III ATF, or
Hydraulic Fluid that meets ISO 32 specifications.
Remove fill-breather cap, Fig. 12. Pour in (8) quarts
of fluid. Start unit, raise lift about 2 ft. Open cylinder
bleeders approximately 2 turns, Fig. 14.
Close bleeders when fluid streams. Torque values for
the bleeders are 15 ft. lb. (20 Nm) minimum and 20 ft
lb. (27 Nm) maximum. Fully lower lift. Add more fluid
until it reaches the MIN______ mark on the tank.
Replace fill-breather cap.

Forward

16. Oil Filling & Bleeding: Use Dexron III ATF, or
Hydraulic Fluid that meets ISO 32 specifications.
Remove fill-breather cap, Fig. 10. Pour in (8) quarts of
fluid. Start unit, raise lift to full rise several times until
lift operates smoothly

 

[ncfireman1918]

Oh.. and one more thought... the Forward models I believe are self bleeding.. The weaver has bleed screws on top of the cylinders and requires manual bleeding.


Weaver

18. Oil Filling & Bleeding: Use Dexron III ATF, or
Hydraulic Fluid that meets ISO 32 specifications.
Remove fill-breather cap, Fig. 12. Pour in (8) quarts
of fluid. Start unit, raise lift about 2 ft. Open cylinder
bleeders approximately 2 turns, Fig. 14.
Close bleeders when fluid streams. Torque values for
the bleeders are 15 ft. lb. (20 Nm) minimum and 20 ft
lb. (27 Nm) maximum. Fully lower lift. Add more fluid
until it reaches the MIN______ mark on the tank.
Replace fill-breather cap.

Forward

16. Oil Filling & Bleeding: Use Dexron III ATF, or
Hydraulic Fluid that meets ISO 32 specifications.
Remove fill-breather cap, Fig. 10. Pour in (8) quarts of
fluid. Start unit, raise lift to full rise several times until
lift operates smoothly

That's a great point, and I can attest that the manual bleeding of the Weaver was a pain in the ***! Luckily once it's done, I shouldn't have to bleed it again unless I somehow introduce air into the system.