firstyearchevelle
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I found these at an estate sale. I’ve never seen a pair of pliers quite like them. Having trouble making out the first letter in the name on the forged mark. Any ideas what these are used for?
Weird German pliers
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Firebrick43
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early multitool
screwdriver on the handle and pliers.
screwdriver on the handle and pliers.
Zrxrunner
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Looks like MHeller or Mueller to me. Heller still makes machine tools and bits in germany from what i see. Not sure if theres any ties or not.
Private Lugnutz
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The jaws look like classic gas and burner pliers to me. They often came with a punch and driver hand forged on the ends of the handles. US models were typically not offset like that, but someone just posted offset versions within the past 3 months, and those were also European.
RTM
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So, here may be a clue or two. Look here
Amazingly, for me the first hit is a one page ad for a pair of AC Penn pliers that look similar to yours, but the image won’t open on my iPad, maybe will work better for you.
the fourth hit of 5 is Meister & ….., pliers on page 10 kinda look like yours.
And here are regular gas pliers, in a three language catalog
Amazingly, for me the first hit is a one page ad for a pair of AC Penn pliers that look similar to yours, but the image won’t open on my iPad, maybe will work better for you.
the fourth hit of 5 is Meister & ….., pliers on page 10 kinda look like yours.
Meister & Schlingensiepen : Edition 1928 : Meister & Schlingensiepen : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
182 p., illus., 23.2 cm, trade catalog
archive.org
And here are regular gas pliers, in a three language catalog
Werkzeug-Katalog : Tool Catalogue : Lohmann & Co. : Lohmann & Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
230 p., illus., 20.1 cm, tool catalog
archive.org
four.cycle
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I agree with Private Lugnutz - those do have the classic "gas pliers" jaws, even though they're offset like the H.D. Smith "Gittatit" model shown here.
four.cycle
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.... and I can NOT make out that name on that herald mark.... is it "Mueller" ? or "HHeller" ? or ???
RTM
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I see MHeller.
slowtwitch73
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I like the offset.. could see those being handy..
four.cycle
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egdede said:
some, yes. not all.
some had the screwdriver blade at the end of one handle. not all.
"gas pliers" seems to have been a fairly loosely-defined term, going by listings in old hardware catalogs.
Private Lugnutz
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While I agree that most US models are thicker, it's not the thickness that identifies them as gas pliers, it's the shape of the two jaws of different sizes, and Cronk & Carrier (Elmira, NY) and Bernard (Schollhorn)(New Haven, Conn.) gas and burner pliers had forged handles and very thin pressed steel jaws, just like the German example. Before mfgrs started putting the "burner" adjusting feature in the tip of the jaws, light duty plumbing kits had two different pliers, gas, often with "turnscrew" and "rimer" (reamer) ends on the handles, and burner, and the burner pliers were much smaller.
Private Lugnutz
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I was doing a little reading and found this 1914-15 report from the Dept of Commerce about the Russian market interesting and relevant.
four.cycle
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^ wow. interesting stuff. they were a hot ticket when people started getting away from wood and coal stoves.
RTM
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+1, the cheapness and Germany in the same sentence is so different from today
OP
firstyearchevelle
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I got the image on the first one to open. They are close but it looks like there are three different sizes in the jaws. Good info here. Thanks.So, here may be a clue or two. Look here
Amazingly, for me the first hit is a one page ad for a pair of AC Penn pliers that look similar to yours, but the image won’t open on my iPad, maybe will work better for you.
the fourth hit of 5 is Meister & ….., pliers on page 10 kinda look like yours.
Meister & Schlingensiepen : Edition 1928 : Meister & Schlingensiepen : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
182 p., illus., 23.2 cm, trade catalogarchive.org
And here are regular gas pliers, in a three language catalog
Werkzeug-Katalog : Tool Catalogue : Lohmann & Co. : Lohmann & Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
230 p., illus., 20.1 cm, tool catalogarchive.org
Mintgrun
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I think the logo on the tool above reads H. Heller, like the one on these little pliers.
These are stamped RADIO on the other side.
The protruding nippers are somewhat unique, or weird... as the thread title suggests.
They have slight serrations on the round jaws.
These are stamped RADIO on the other side.
The protruding nippers are somewhat unique, or weird... as the thread title suggests.
They have slight serrations on the round jaws.