Welder Recommendation - is this a decent deal?

[danieldd]

Co-worker's dad has passed and he inherited his Lincoln AC 225 welder. Also has a face shield and some welding rods(?). As you can see I'm not a welder at all but thought it might be a decent deal to pick it up and learn how to weld. He wants $150 for everything.

Deal or no deal?

 

[malibu101]

Co-worker's dad has passed and he inherited his Lincoln AC 225 welder. Also has a face shield and some welding rods(?). As you can see I'm not a welder at all but thought it might be a decent deal to pick it up and learn how to weld. He wants $150 for everything.

Deal or no deal?

Rods may or not be good depending on the conditions and how long they sat around. If you're not building rocket ships as long as the flux isn't falling off they're probably OK.
Face shield, well you need one and a fixed shade isn't that expensive and waht kind of shape is it in.
$150 is a pretty good deal. Not stealing it but a bit better than most common Clist offers for an AC tombstone.

 

[brownbagg]

yes good deal. the ac/dc model is a more desireable machine, but that machine you are looking at is a damn good machine and will be working 50 years from now, and worth every peeny of what they want, in fact is an average price, somebody going come here and tell you to low ball them, but $150, just pay it and enjoy

 

[danieldd]

Thanks Malibu!

 

[Fordman7795]

That would be just slightly above average price around here. I generally see them for $100-$125. I got mine for $35

 

[bob15]

Overpriced.

Without knowing what rod and how they were stored and a possible scratched-up lenses helmet (which would cost more money to replace the glass, I would say about 100-110. The welder itself is nothing really special and AC only.

 

[danieldd]

yes good deal. the ac/dc model is a more desireable machine, but that machine you are looking at is a damn good machine and will be working 50 years from now, and worth every peeny of what they want, in fact is an average price, somebody going come here and tell you to low ball them, but $150, just pay it and enjoy

He is a co-worker, so I am obliged to pay what he is asking. At least he said if it doesn't work he would refund my money

 

[danieldd]

A couple more pictures. Hood look like it has seen better days…

 

[tcianci]

That's an average price. Like you said, he's a co-worker. This is not the time to low ball over 20 or 30 bucks, especially if his fathers passing is recent. As mentioned, its a simple but bulletproof machine and a good one to learn on. If you decide to move on to other types of welding, you will probably get most of your coin back. Unless the rods were stored in a closed container, the flux is probably past it's prime and may prove to be more of a frustration to a beginner. Depot has mild steel rods in stock. Do yourself a favor and get some to learn with. It's a great skill to have and will serve you well.

 

[vettex2]

I sold one exactly like that for 250.00
it was a bit cleaner though

 

[rburke65]

Nasty looking hood. You will want an auto darkening hood. They are really nice. Those "tombstone" welders are pretty bullet proof.

 

[Tundruz]

Yeah the hood can be used as part of this years Halloween costume along with a few rolls of tin foil

 

[danieldd]

Yeah the hood can be used as part of this years Halloween costume along with a few rolls of tin foil

Agreed!

 

[matt_i]

What do you plan to weld, eventually? As others have said, the face shield is a throwaway. AC stick would be good, in my mind, to weld structural/farm stuff together but nothing detailed/small.

 

[hefnerconstructionlc]

I have one along with others. It is bullet proof and a great welder to learn on. Yes its a fair and average price, but going to a good cause. Really $150 is a small investment for a welder, and that welder can a do a wide range of tasks. Get fresh 6011 for general purpose (repairs, dirty/painted steel), 6013 for pretty thinwall, or 7018AC for heavy duty new/clean steel. In addition, if you happen to be new to welding, I would also suggest and Auto-darkening helmet. It will instantly make you a better welder, allowing you to focus on the puddle. Instead of struggling to strike the arc and trying to get oriented on where you moving along the weldment.

 

[danieldd]

What do you plan to weld, eventually?

Who knows? Never welded before. Won't know until I have a need for it. Always wanted to learn how to weld and figured this was a way to get started with little investment..

 

[Kent_B]

That's almost identical to the deal I got on mine a couple years ago. I'm no good at welding, but I've found it quite useful on those occasions when I absolutely had to stick something together. I don't think you did bad at all. BTW, that'd be an average price in these parts.

 

[hefnerconstructionlc]

One last thing. Food for thought. Here is what that welder is capable of. I used that exact welder to to fabricate the stairs and patio for a building I was renovating.

 

[86turbodsl]

Average deal. You probably wont lose money on it though. I sold my tombstone a few years ago for 175 with a bunch of stuff.

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[Whitworth]

$75 value

 

[gearhead1]

A little high I think. Yes, good welder, will last a long time, etc but they're a dime a dozen too. $100 is about right for that.

 

[BD1]

Price will varies in location. Near me $75 to $150 . The $150 is for a newer current model.

 

[jp828108]

Price is on par with what everyone around me asks for them. Not sure what they end up going for. Obviously if it weren't a coworker and didn't potentially have sentimental value to them I would offer him less and shoot for a closer to smoking hot deal. Maybe feel out if the price is negotiable?

 

[Crazyjake8493]

Sounds a little high. The welder looks to be in decent shape and will outlast all of us, the A/C tombstones are bombproof. The helmet looks like junk, and the rods may not be very good if they've been exposed to moisture for any amount of time.

As long as the welder has good leads, I'd offer $100 for the just that, no helmet or rods. Then get a cheap auto-darkening helmet for $40 and a pack of rod or two for $10.

 

[Lhorn]

I agree that it's not a "bad" price but perhaps a little high. On CL here, $150 is the standard asking price regardless of whether it's in great shape or beat to hell. Considering there seems to be multiple ones for sale at any given time, I suspect the older, more beat up units prob go for less than asking.

 

[CNGsaves]

+1 that helmet will be good Halloween costume !!

I'd take him up on offer, but ask him to "sweeten the pot" . . . surely the guy has welding hammer, gloves, etc. that can be thrown in the deal. Any vise grips or welding clamps to include ??

 

[vettex2]

sounds like most here think it's a fair deal

FYI : I scored a Lincoln SP100 Mig for 150.00
It pays to shop around

 

[TractorJeff]

Buy it for the asking price, ask about chipping hammer, gloves, clamps and stuff while loading it and having a Beer remembering his Dad. As far as the Helmet, I have lenses for that and don't throw it away, hang it on the wall. When someone else wants to watch you weld something, give it to them to watch. Its the type of helmet still used quite often by PipeLiners as they are lighter weight and bullet proof for laying in the trenches! I still use mine when I am crawled up inside some machine trying to weld a broken part!
As far as the rod, use it, don't worry that it has degraded, you'll know real soon if its any good or not. Rod lasts a long time if reasonably cared for!

 

[Norcal]

I remember when they could be found on sale once in a while for $99, but that was a long long time ago, if the OP is comfortable with the price then go for it.

 

[gungatim]

I remember when they could be found on sale once in a while for $99, but that was a long long time ago, if the OP is comfortable with the price then go for it.

yeah, I bought mine brand new for $199 at Lowes only 10 yrs. ago...around here that's a $50-$75 machine.

if the OP just wants to spend a few bucks to learn to weld, get a $99 HF MIG. they are easier to learn than arc welding. when you decide you want to stick with it, sell it and get a better machine. you can learn arc welding with that, and do some fabrication, but you won't be doing alum, sheet metal, or much of the kinds of things a lot of people want to do when thinking about welding...for $150, you could even find a decent 110v red or blue (or grey)used MIG...

 

[G-ManBart]

Around here those go for $100 pretty regularly, but the rods are probably okay and worth a few bucks.

I wouldn't start with the Fleetwood 180 (E6011). Get some 6013 or 7018AC and you'll get better beads sooner.

 

[38Chevy454]

Good machine that will always work as many said, and you can learn with no risk as it can always be sold for near what you paid. I don't think it's a smoking deal, but if you like the co-worker, as tcianci said a few bucks are not worth bad feelings. Especially given the co-worker has enough to deal with concerning his father's death.

Just a caution, if you get new type 7018 rod, make sure it is 7018AC not 7018. Being an AC machine it needs the 7018AC type rod. 6011 is a good rod that works for most any steel welding. 6013 is a little less penetrating and might be better to learn. Get a bunch of 1/8 thick scraps and start welding them together. Watch some videos to get the basic idea. Have fun. It does run on 220v so you will need the 30 amp minimum circuit to run it on. I think specification is 50 amp, but it will work on 30 as long as you stay in middle to lower range.

 

[danieldd]

Good machine that will always work as many said, and you can learn with no risk as it can always be sold for near what you paid. I don't think it's a smoking deal, but if you like the co-worker, as tcianci said a few bucks are not worth bad feelings. Especially given the co-worker has enough to deal with concerning his father's death.

Just a caution, if you get new type 7018 rod, make sure it is 7018AC not 7018. Being an AC machine it needs the 7018AC type rod. 6011 is a good rod that works for most any steel welding. 6013 is a little less penetrating and might be better to learn. Get a bunch of 1/8 thick scraps and start welding them together. Watch some videos to get the basic idea. Have fun. It does run on 220v so you will need the 30 amp minimum circuit to run it on. I think specification is 50 amp, but it will work on 30 as long as you stay in middle to lower range.

Thanks. I was wondering about the minimum circuit needs. Unfortunately my shop doesn't have enough juice to run 30 amp equipment. The only 220VAC circuit I have in my shop is 20amp and this is for my Maxjax. However, in my garage I have a 40 amp dryer connection that I could probably use..

 

[malibu101]

Thanks. I was wondering about the minimum circuit needs. Unfortunately my shop doesn't have enough juice to run 30 amp equipment. The only 220VAC circuit I have in my shop is 20amp and this is for my Maxjax. However, in my garage I have a 40 amp dryer connection that I could probably use..

Years ago when I lived at home the barn only had a 240V/30A circuit.
I ran a Miller Thunderbolt AC225 (simple buzzbox) quite a bit on that circuit. Now I will admit that if I was welding for a long time (practicing) it would trip the breaker but it didn't happen too often.

Certainly the dog has to eat and it should be fed what it needs, but, it will survive on less.

 

[John in OH]

Buy it for the asking price, ask about chipping hammer, gloves, clamps and stuff while loading it and having a Beer remembering his Dad. As far as the Helmet, I have lenses for that and don't throw it away, hang it on the wall. When someone else wants to watch you weld something, give it to them to watch. Its the type of helmet still used quite often by PipeLiners as they are lighter weight and bullet proof for laying in the trenches! I still use mine when I am crawled up inside some machine trying to weld a broken part!
As far as the rod, use it, don't worry that it has degraded, you'll know real soon if its any good or not. Rod lasts a long time if reasonably cared for!

This!!

 

[Throbbin Rods]

Those old Lincolns are bulletproof and forgiving. I sold mine several years ago as I thought my welding days were behind me. Just bought another from a guy who thinks the same thing. I have a wire feed with gas but for heavy stuff the Lincoln will get the job done every time.

 

[BADSIX]

I remember when they could be found on sale once in a while for $99, but that was a long long time ago, if the OP is comfortable with the price then go for it.

THIS^^^^ I think Sears and lots of other retailers sold them for 99.95 good stick welder for odd stuff that need stick welded. I gave one away last summer.
Jay D.

 

[38Chevy454]

Thanks. I was wondering about the minimum circuit needs. Unfortunately my shop doesn't have enough juice to run 30 amp equipment. The only 220VAC circuit I have in my shop is 20amp and this is for my Maxjax. However, in my garage I have a 40 amp dryer connection that I could probably use..

I have run welders off dryer circuit before, you will probably need to make up an extension cord, depends on how long the cord is and where you are doing the welding. The welder does not know what the circuit is labeled for.