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Welding helmet for my son for school, Any recommendations?

JOE.G

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Hi, My son is going to take welding in school and he needs some gear, What helmet do you guys recommend, I have not bought a Helmet in many years and I am sure there are better ones now. We tried a Hobart at tractor supply that he liked.

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Here's a pretty recent post discussing similar you may find helpful...
 

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I use the Hobart inventor helmet. Great welding helmet and I'm sure there is better. What is the application and duration of welding.?As a professional, I would buy professional, as a novice or homeowner I would buy as such without compromising safety.
 

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You won't go wrong with most of the name brands...Miller (one of the digital ones), Lincoln (one of their 4c ones), Esab (one of their Sentinel ones), 3m (one of their Speedglass ones), and so forth.

I have a Miller Digital Infinity that I bought back when prices weren't nutty, wouldn't really afford one of those again though.
 

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What is he going to be doing? I have a nice 3M Speedglass I use for TIG. At work we use cheap autodarkening helmets as they get burned up and abused in a fab shop. One of the older guys prefers a fixed shade. I like my air fed mask for long welds as it doesnt steam up, annoying for intermittent stuff though.
 

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Welp, this is an expensive solution but I have one set of lungs and eyes. I am a firm believer in good/excellent/best you can get type of safety equipment. There are some caustic fumes that can come from welding. I was getting headaches and this solved my problems.IMG_0636.jpeg
 

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I have one of the auto darkening, it's great for ARC welding so you can see where your strike is. Always struggled with standard glass/flip down.
 

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Opinions on this will be wide and varied as everyone has one they think is right.

Welding helmets are a pretty personal preference, it all comes down to fit, lens preference, and desired features.

You asked for our opinions, so I’ll give you mine. I’ve welded professionally for my whole adult life and I’ve owned a full time welding and machine shop for the last 5 years. I’ve got a LOT of hood time.

My opinion is that every welder should own and be able to use a standard, fixed shade helmet. They’re dependable, durable, inexpensive, effective and will never need batteries. They can’t flash you, they can get wet or dusty without malfunctioning and they’re lightweight. Plus, you can use them for watchers and guests in the shop if you add other helmets later. Or as a backup if your fancy helmet breaks or you run the battery out in the middle of a job.

I personally use a Jackson Shadow with a gold lens. I have two, a 10 shade and a 12 shade. One for low amp work and one for high amp work. The headgear is extremely comfortable and easy to use. It adapts to a hard hat easily and is lightweight. The gold lenses have super clear optics and a very large viewing window.

I do own some auto darkening helmets, but they sit unused most of the time. I have a Jackson NexGen and a Miller Elite. Both fine helmets. I just prefer the fixed shade.

If your son is a student just starting out, I’d want him to learn on a fixed shade. It’ll be better for his career. It’s like driving a stick shift or backing up a trailer. You might not need that skill every day, but then you do it’s great to have.
 

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I’ve used Fibermetal fixed shade and a Jackson Balder autodarkening. I like both, the important thing is comfort and being able to see the puddle clearly. An auto dark is definitely less frustration starting out. Some of the autodarks have different lens colors that might help one see better depending on how their eyes are.

I wouldn’t run out and get a full PAPR setup because that’s mega bucks for not really necessary in a school environment but if he seeks employment as a welder and they don’t provide one then I’d get my own especially for indoor environments.

Either way you go get some extra inner and outer clear lens covers.
 

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I am not a Weldor, but it can burn a few rods. I bought a Harbor Freight cheap auto darkening and it has been "Good Enough".

I tried a fixed shade that clipped onto my shipyard hard hat, that cheap Auto Darkening helmet has made me better at Welding, but I probably will never be a Weldor.
 

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How old? What kind of school? No way would I buy an expensive one that might get damaged or stolen. Buy a cheap one of whatever style they want him to get that has good ratings.
 
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Hes a Junior in high school, He'll spend about 4 HRS a day 5 days a week for the next two years in welding class. I am not looking for the best of the best at this stage in the game but don't want junk either. I have had real junk helmet sand pretty decent ones for the time helmets, I was a Welder/Metal fabricator in the late 90's, I am sure things have gotten better since then.
 
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there's some out there that don't do well w/high frequency aluminum tig...I had issues when welding w/helium w/mine.
 

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If possible, go try them all on. Most have very adjustable headgear, but some are more comfortable than others. Also, buttons above or below the screen? Can be annoying reaching above the screen all the time. That being said, for low dollar, the Hobart Inventor is tough to beat. The top end Miller, Lincoln, Esab, 3M offerings are all fantastic
 

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last time i went "shopping" for a new hood i tried several different ones on for fit.
i ended up with a miller pro hobby. for me, it was the best compromise between fit & cost.
i have 2 of them now, 1 in the garage, and other in my service truck.
i have a jackson big J, 3 small window, 1 fixed and 2 with flip ups
 

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I recommend a Hiderok helmet with a 2 x 4 lense. Nice and light and fairly durable. Once he figures out the shade that works for him he can buy an auto lens.
 

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I started with a miller digital elite an it still works. I prefer the miller t94xl these days. Lincoln has some very good helmets as well an usually better prices with a kit including gloves a jacket. 3m speed glass is another good option. Only helmet besides hft I don’t recommend is the esab sentinel but it’s solely because I dont care for the headgear. None of the tool truck brand helmets are worth it to me either.
 

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By the way I. Purchased this kit for the shop to supplement other gear it's a very good setup all around for the price. Good viewing size and settings for the helmet.
 

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This is a great kit to get started. As he hangs around the welding community and learns the in an outs he could upgrade with much better focus on what he is looking for. Pretty hard to beat with all the extras he will need anyway.

That looks ideal. Especially for a high school student Get something under $100. If he really gets into welding he'll probably find something he specifically wants later on.
 

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Newer model is the A60.

I have the A60. The first cartridge that came with the helmet would auto darken on the first strike of the ark, but on the second strike, it would flash me. Long story short, ESAB has since changed the cartridge to where it no longer has a sleep mode. They were nice enough to overnight a new cartridge. The helmet has been working fine with its new upgraded cartridge. The helmet is very comfortable and has amazing clarity, but it is HEAVY.
 

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I'd get something decent to start for now and let him try his skill craft. It'll also let him learn how others treat their hood and his too.

Maybe by Christmas time, he'll be ready for a nice better helmet and be happy unwrapping it Christmas morning.
 

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Asking a question like this is unfortunately pointless here, and I guess generally in any forum online, as you going to get a vast array of opinions; in this case it will be from $50 HF to $2K top of line; or from one to infinity.

Since everyone has an opinion, I'll give mine. If the goal is to make a living welding, you absolutely, positively, need to learn to weld with a conventional fixed shade helmet. I really can't see this as debatable. As a hobby welder I "learned to weld" on a standard fixed shade helmet. Once I finally bought an auto-darkening helmet, I found it an immeasurable improvement- for someone that welds a few times a year typically. If you weld for a living, and have to weld something at another location, and your auto darkening helmet is broken, you better be as good as welding with a fixed shade helmet as you are with auto darkening, if that's all they have there.
 

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on welding helments i love the fiber metal pipeliner helment, I think every welder should have one on the rack. Its only like forty dollars
 
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