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Welding Helmet

Kenskip1

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OK, so I purchased a welding helmet from the good people at Harbor Freight.Now upon completing an inventory I made a discovery of an extra green shaded lens.Having spent close to 60 minutes on hold, I made the command decision and hung up the phone.
Can anyone tell me what the extra green tinted lens is for? The critical dimensions are 4.125X 3.5. I have my new welder but not found the time to work with it. Any information would be most appreciated. Thank, Ken

The Helmet model number is 61610
 
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royesses

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Accessories Included Spare lens cover. It is the outer cover lens that protects the lcd. It may have green/blue protective plastic sheet on both side that peel off.
 
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Tim37

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A little tip for ya blink your eyes when you strike a arc those cheaper auto darking hoods arnt fast enough after a lot of arc strikes you will notice your eyes are a little burnt
 

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A little tip for ya blink your eyes when you strike a arc those cheaper auto darking hoods arnt fast enough after a lot of arc strikes you will notice your eyes are a little burnt

3/4ths or better of the students in the welding classes I took over 3 years used HF helmets including me and I never heard a complaint. I have since upgraded to a Jackson after having a Speedglas. Both are better in some ways and I really like the Jackson Tigger.

When arc welding the striking process will trigger the autodark and you're not seeing a full arc by any means until you get the rod in position. When doing TIG you usually start off a little soft and then pour on the coal. Maybe not when tacking or using the spot welding feature. That leaves MIG which starts off pretty bright. All radiation, even that which you can't see, is harmful.

But I call bunk on the statement that all eyes are eventually going to get burnt. The normal state of the autodark lens is enough to protect your eyes from flash. Getting flashed is no fun because after the fact it feels like walking into a dark room after being out in the bright sunlight until your eyes can adjust.

Besides, the eyelids themselves do very little in filtering radiation. If you close your eyes and tack w/o a lens that's when you will feel the sand later that day.
 

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3/4ths or better of the students in the welding classes I took over 3 years used HF helmets including me and I never heard a complaint. I have since upgraded to a Jackson after having a Speedglas. Both are better in some ways and I really like the Jackson Tigger.

When arc welding the striking process will trigger the autodark and you're not seeing a full arc by any means until you get the rod in position. When doing TIG you usually start off a little soft and then pour on the coal. Maybe not when tacking or using the spot welding feature. That leaves MIG which starts off pretty bright. All radiation, even that which you can't see, is harmful.

But I call bunk on the statement that all eyes are eventually going to get burnt. The normal state of the autodark lens is enough to protect your eyes from flash. Getting flashed is no fun because after the fact it feels like walking into a dark room after being out in the bright sunlight until your eyes can adjust.Besides, the eyelids themselves do very little in filtering radiation. If you close your eyes and tack w/o a lens that's when you will feel the sand later that day.

good description, and I can elaborate. (having worked for them for a few years before they got bought out) it is not that the normal state being dark enough, it is that an auto darkening lense is multiple layers of glass laminated together. the LCD panel is seperate. the top piece is called band-pass glass. it filters the harmful UV rays regardless of whether the lense ever turns on and darkens.

that means you can weld with it all you want even if there are no batterys in it. yes it will be bright, but that's not what being flashed means.

Being flashed means your eyes are exposed the the harmful light frequency that is absorbed by the eye. get enough, and you wake up blind with painful burning eyes...it's also why just looking away is not good enough. the rays can still be absorbed even if you think you are not looking just because you don't see the bright arc. The guys on TV that do that are just plain stupid...
 

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My welding instructor had a good tip for tacking things up when you didn't want to reach for your helmet at least when using a mig, place the stinger in place for the tack and then put your off hand in place to block the arc.

That being said please use a helmet with the proper lens for the work you are doing. I did a bunch of tacks over the weekend and have a bit of sun burn on my arms and face from that.
 

Zeke

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My welding instructor had a good tip for tacking things up when you didn't want to reach for your helmet at least when using a mig, place the stinger in place for the tack and then put your off hand in place to block the arc.

That being said please use a helmet with the proper lens for the work you are doing. I did a bunch of tacks over the weekend and have a bit of sun burn on my arms and face from that.

Right, use the helmet and long sleeves. Even if you can block the arc with your hand — first of all, your hand is getting radiated and second, the radiation can bounce off nearby objects. Pro weldors cover up.
 
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