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welding scoop on hood ?

nonhog

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I'm determined to weld in a 73 442 hood scoop on my 74 Omega.
Big flat surface is risky but I've welded sheet metal before some good some bad. I'll practice on a donor hood 1st.

My question is should I attempt to add the scoop with the full length of raised portion as in pic. Or settle on a smaller (safer) section and work the edge to blend with existing hood.

Love to hear some input here. Be using a Lincoln 110 MIG.
 

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Is this a scoop you're fabricating? If not, most scoops I've seen (fiberglass) were bolt-on.
 

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I'm assuming the two hoods are different or you wouldn't bother trying to graft on the scoop, but how much different is the 442 hood as far as bolting it on your car?

Also, it looks like your existing hood has louvers along the back length of the hood. What would you plan to do with those?

Chris
 

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Take the whole hood skin if possible, be a little harder to warp the closer you get to the edge.
 

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Are you lucky enough to have the feature crease that comes sweeping back from the headlights be the same width? Can you cut a few inches off each side of the green hood to match the width of the Omega opening? I would think that doing the metal work in the curve near the side of the hood would be easier to hide than trying to make the seam out in the flat part of the hood. I'm no metal worker here, just offering opinions.


On edit, do you have the full hood from the '73 or is it already cut?
lg
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I'm assuming the two hoods are different or you wouldn't bother trying to graft on the scoop, but how much different is the 442 hood as far as bolting it on your car?
Also, it looks like your existing hood has louvers along the back length of the hood. What would you plan to do with those?
Chris

Like the differance between a Chevelle and a Nova. Not sure I'm following you on the existing hood, maybe your seeing the cowl grill(vent)?

Take the whole hood skin if possible, be a little harder to warp the closer you get to the edge.

Are you lucky enough to have the feature crease that comes sweeping back from the headlights be the same width? Can you cut a few inches off each side of the green hood to match the width of the Omega opening? I would think that doing the metal work in the curve near the side of the hood would be easier to hide than trying to make the seam out in the flat part of the hood. I'm no metal worker here, just offering opinions.

On edit, do you have the full hood from the '73 or is it already cut?
lg
no neat sig line

The deal with the hood is its over 400 miles away. He doesn't want to ship the whole hood and I probably couldn't afford shipping on the whole hood.

Body lines are not a good blend but I will figure a way to make it happen.
:D
 

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from the look of the two hoods you will need the entire lenth of the hood and you will need to blend it into the front edge as it comes foreward or else you will need to replace the nose of the car as well

this is not as tough as you may think, you will need to trim and mate them up and then stich weld in the patch little by little untill the untire thing is welded.

now notice I said this is nit as hard as you may think, but it will take a boat load of time.
how much is the hood? you may want to see if you can find a way to get it back whole as I suspect that the time to drive to go get it will be less than the time to weld it in and make it right. plus does he have the right nose he can sell you at the same time?

bob
 

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the body lines on the header is whats going to be hard to match if all you have is the cutlass hood for the buick.i think i would try to use the cutless scoop to do more of a cowl induction style scoop
 

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The 2 hoods are vastly different in design. The Omega uses a built in cowl vent, while the Cutlass uses a rear induction hood design. That's the main issue I see. Even if you do the best work you can on the hood, the cowl vent section and the Louvers are going to be difficult to blend as an overall look.

Look into a Nova, Ventura, Apollo or Skylark hood as the recipient for the hood scoop. One of them may be better suited to accept the 442 hood vent. The width of the hoods should be the same and you'll be left to deal with matching up the Header panel to the hood of choice.

After looking into the other GM hoods and determining which is best suited for this design of this hood vent/cowl induction, locate a Rod shop and see if they can Louver one of the GM hoods to match the design of the 442 hood scoop/cowl induction.

I've performed both the hood scoop graph and have modified hoods with a louvered cowl areas. Either one you choose will look good on that car. It's something Oldsmobile should have offered themselves when the car was new. Good luck and update your status.
 
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